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if these guys did not say negative things about simran, sakhis and keertan they may get some support

regarding their political and social ideas for sikhs but i dont know that much about these people and to be quite honest i am not interested when they make negative comments about simran etc. Its funny how the old guys are saying we should not be focusing on the old but the young that makes me laugh so why dont they go home :biggrin2:. and the rest they are saying is a little ott . Seems they are looking at everything through human logic and education which is relevant to this world and mortals but not messengers of or waheguru ji.

They go on about how the snake who gave shade to Guru Nanak knew he was divine, this is manmukh thinking, i agree dont follow blindly but dont say something which has been told for hundreds of years in our homes about Guru ji is not true because you have an education!

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The problem is we have lazy bone idle people incharge who dont to any physical work, i mean Guru Nanak Sahib ji did farming right to the end of his time, telling us we should be living a honest clean and kirat life, when they have stomachs the size of baseballs and those are the people who dont follow Guru maharajs ideals.

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The problem is not just the missionaries but they do have some strange views, its across the board, some sikhs do follow blindly everyone who proclaims to be a sant or gyani but thats just there sharda being exploited and that is the sad part, a lot will say nothing through fear of doing nindiya.

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Guru Nanak Dev Ji metaphorically stopped the rock with his Panja. It's not meant to be taken literally.

Sarcasm :blush2:

Disagree....panja is there till now.........you can have darshans.........a musalman following Guru sahib.....everyday degh nu bhog lwaunda te parshad te panje da nishan hunda....when his child was born, he was outside somewhere and did degh parshad te panja na lageya.....he thought that child is not his and will kill him, then he heard voice that the it's his child, but he has to go near panja sahib to do that........and he did that......Giani Thakur Singh ji mentioned this in one of his katha.....

.....so these are the things that actually happened as Giani ji had learnt these from Damdami Taksal jathedars......and other mahapurkh like Sant Isher Singh i Rarha sahib, Sant Baba Ajit singh ji Hansaliwale, Sant baba Harnam Singh ji Rampurkherha and many more.......

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Disagree....panja is there till now.........you can have darshans.........a musalman following Guru sahib.....everyday degh nu bhog lwaunda te parshad te panje da nishan hunda....when his child was born, he was outside somewhere and did degh parshad te panja na lageya.....he thought that child is not his and will kill him, then he heard voice that the it's his child, but he has to go near panja sahib to do that........and he did that......Giani Thakur Singh ji mentioned this in one of his katha.....

.....so these are the things that actually happened as Giani ji had learnt these from Damdami Taksal jathedars......and other mahapurkh like Sant Isher Singh i Rarha sahib, Sant Baba Ajit singh ji Hansaliwale, Sant baba Harnam Singh ji Rampurkherha and many more.......

MOD said he was joking.

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What confuses me about these people who do shanka is that: Do they doubt the Samrathha of their Guru? Or are they continuously beating the drum of "We don't believe in miracles, we don't believe in miracles etc....."?

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Then there is a plaque erected at Baghdad since that time.Mcleod disputes Guru sahib's visit to Mecca.Plaque at baghdad is second testimony to Guru sahib's visit. If you visit Iraq wearing a turban they call you Baba.They know we are from india. The problem with these missionaries is their knowledge is very limited as they are neither well read nor do naam di kamai.In order to influence simple folks they are busy destroying our roots.

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