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the granthi made a claim that hari singh nalwa conquered all of afghanistan and americans and nato are unable to conquere afghanistan

these guys who try teaching history in the gurdwara yet never studied it themselves are they the reason why most sikh youth have no idea about sikhism or their history cause sikh history is amazing and full of military accomplishments but lot of sikhs dont' know about the real military accomplishments but they know about fabricated stories

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Follow up of the above post: Pakistani Denies but one confirms

The twenty-first century, the Wali of Swat confirmed that the above was indeed a fact:

The following is the gist of an open letter written by Miangul Aurangzeb, the present Wali of Swat, to the Taliban when the Taliban were preaching and enforcing strict dress and conduct codes for the women in the areas that fell under their control.

"At the outset I want to record that you all must love me very much as you have decided not to take over my property in Swat unlike those you have taken over of other landed families. I am therefore emboldened to believe that I have the privilege of sharing some historical facts for you to know about and I urge you to absorb the same before you continue your campaign of moral policing, especially when it comes to the manner of dressing and code of conduct for women.

The Sikh army of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, under the leadership of Hari Singh Nalwa came to the Frontier in the 1820's and swiftly conquered our ancestors. It is the only time in recorded history that our people were ruled over by foreigners. The locals were so utterly terrified of the Sikh army that they used to hide every time the Sikhs came into view. Those that decided to resist were met with ruthlessness. During this time, the word was spread around that the Sikhs did not harm elderly people, women and children and that the local men who did not wish to earn wrath of the Sikhs should wear the garb of Punjabi women, which was the Salwar-Kameez. At that time in our history both men and women alike, wore only a single-robe garment (similar to that worn by the Arabs) and the Sikhs would not harm any man either when wearing the Salwar-Kameez.

So you see, our men happily adopted the garb of Punjabi women since they were too terrified to stand up and they have adopted the garb as being theirs' ever since. I am very intrigued to see that you are following in the footsteps of your ancestors by wearing the adopted Punjabi women's garb as your own, but now go around preaching and coercing our women as to how they should be living their lives! I suggest that take a deep look inside yourselves, given this historical perspective."

Sincerely,

Miangul Aurangzeb, Wali of Swat

(Source: Nishaan, Swat: Sanctuary for the Sikhs, III/2009, New Delhi: Nagaara Trust, p. 45)
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did you copy and paste that from http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-strategy/177048-how-fear-sardar-hari-singh-nalwa-forced-pashtuns-start-wearing-salwar.html

theirs a whole debate going on regarding those claims on that website

without a doubt nari singh nalwa and the sikhs conquered peshawar which is part of the great military accomplishments but sikhs need to research and find evidence to claims rather then believe things someone says without evidence

in court you'll have one side making an accusation and another side playing defence the prosecuters have to provide evidence to back up their claim beyond a reasonable doubt

gurdeepsinghjohal to you believe things blindly cause someone made a claim or do you look for evidence to back up the claim and try seeing the other side of the story as well to find the truth

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Pathan mothers use the phrase 'Haria Raghale' (Hari Singh Nalwa will get you!) to frighten their children into doing their biding akin to Hari Singh Nalwa being regarded as the Bogey-Man in popular culture. Nalwa was governor of Peshawar which the Sikhs had captured. This city was then known as 'the pride of the Afghans' and the province known as Dar ul Aman ie Abode of Peace, not because it was peaceful, but because the Pathans saw it as some sort of garden of Eden as the valley was fertile and the revenue was higher than anywhere else in Afghanistan ( which the areas West of Indus in those days were regarded as a part of). By taking Peshawar and controlling the Khyber Pass, the Singhs demonstrated their dominance over Afghanistan. Yet the Singhs were shrewd enough to not get too carried away and advance further because the expense of having to garrison a turbulent country that produced a pittence in revenue was not worth it. Nalwa was a tough governor and often used harsh and opressive methods which may have been more appropriate for such times - who knows? For instance the call to prayer was banned from mosques and if this was breached the Maulvi would be hung from the minerets. Local tribal rogues were fastened over ant hills and honey was poured over them resulting in a slow and terrifying death. It was not unknown for Singhs to capture women and children of the enemy during raids. All said, he apparently had a reputation for justice by the locals and was known as a King Solomon like figure amongst the Pathans. He spoke Pashtu fluently and thus enamoured himself more easily with the local populace. One of his wives at least was a Pathan woman. Later, after his death in 1839 when the Sikhs provided a force to help the British with their first Afghan war, Jalalabad was captured and retained.

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didn't hari singh nalwa pass away in 1837 and wasn't it the british east indian company along with shah shuaja who went on to conquere afghanistan but after a year the british saw afghanistan to poor of a country to make money off of so cut down number of soldiers 4000 and cause of so few soldiers shah shauja was overthrown and about 100 000 pashtun tribe men attacked and killed all but one of the 4000 soldiers and their familys never heard of the sikhs helping the british in the first anglo afghan war but sikhs probably did allow them to pass through the lands owned by the khalsa to invade afghanistan

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Nalwa was killed in battle in 1837 and prior to this the trans Indus territories of Afghanistan that fell under the Peshawar province, the Derajat and Waziri territories had been assimilated into Khalsa territory and now the de facto Afghan border lay further west, at the Khyber pass. In 1839 the British wanted to restore Shah Shuja to his ancestoral seat in Kabul and by ousting Dost Mohammad, they would have a friendly Afghan State, rather than one that was courting with Iran and Russia. Maharaja Ranjit Singh agreed to allow a British force through his territories in exchange for gaining Jalalabad which the Brits were not so keen on, but relented. Shah Shuja came with a British force to Kabul via Quetta ie outside of Punjab. His son, Shahzada Taimur and a smaller British force went via Lahore and at Peshawar was joined by A Sikh force. The Sikhs were instrumental in forcing the other side of the Khyber pass en route to Kabul. This joyous news came to the ears of Maharaja Ranjit Singh on his death bed.

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yes it is copy paste.

That is why I posted in two parts first one account of Granthi.

Second one is pakistani.

Moreover it is interesting it is posted in pak defence site.

It can be checked if salwaar kamiz was because of Hari Singh Nalwa or from other people who invaded Afghanistan. Just have to read history of Asia.

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Nalwa was killed in battle in 1837 and prior to this the trans Indus territories of Afghanistan that fell under the Peshawar province, the Derajat and Waziri territories had been assimilated into Khalsa territory and now the de facto Afghan border lay further west, at the Khyber pass. In 1839 the British wanted to restore Shah Shuja to his ancestoral seat in Kabul and by ousting Dost Mohammad, they would have a friendly Afghan State, rather than one that was courting with Iran and Russia. Maharaja Ranjit Singh agreed to allow a British force through his territories in exchange for gaining Jalalabad which the Brits were not so keen on, but relented. Shah Shuja came with a British force to Kabul via Quetta ie outside of Punjab. His son, Shahzada Taimur and a smaller British force went via Lahore and at Peshawar was joined by A Sikh force. The Sikhs were instrumental in forcing the other side of the Khyber pass en route to Kabul. This joyous news came to the ears of Maharaja Ranjit Singh on his death bed.

Very correctly stated.Peshawer was a province of afghanistan and had never been separated.It is Hari Singh Nalwa who conquered it

Built fort jamraud at gate of khyber pass. Since then peshawer has been taken away from afghanistan.

It is a fact that when mothers in our punjab say to crying child keep quiet otherwise lion will come. It is also a fact that afgham mothers

say in pashtu to crying children " Chup sho haria ragle" (Keep quiet otherwise hari singh nalwa will take you away).

Note: Maharaja ranjit singh died in 1837.hari singh died before that when peshawer was already a province of khalsa(4th province) and hari singh nalwa was its Governor. Abbotabad's where osama bin laden was killed real name was haripur and part of peshawer province. That district is known as haripur hazara.

Shah shuja had taken asylum at lahore under ranjit singh and Ranjit took away kohinoor from him.

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