Sant Baba Nand Singh Ji Kaleran Wale

[Singh23]

I'm reading Life stories of great sikh saints by Dr.Hakam Singh.

I wanted to share this with the sangat because I normally think of the only right way being Sikhi and everything else being false (including other religions) but then I read this:

While at Baagh a Muslim Pir, Murad Shah Kukara, who was a big landlord of this area also, came to see Baba Nand Singh Ji. When Baba Ji heard of his arrival he came out of his room to meet him. The shah bowed and then took his sash (which he always carried around his neck), spread it before Baba ji and said "I have come to a perfect fakir today and am not ready to go back empty handed". Baba ji stayed quiet for a moment and then said " Do you know shah ji! That what you are asking for comes at a price, and I hope you know that price?" The pir replied " Yes sir, i know the price for what I am requesting is my head." Baba ji then said, "Think and tell me whether or not you have already given your head to someone else?" The shah stayed quiet for some time and then picked up his sash and said " thank you sir, you have already filled my sash because you have restored my faith in my preceptor." pg 172

What I gather from this is that Baba ji and other mahapurakh not only help sikhs stay attached to god but also help other people stay on their own paths.

I think this also shows the power/bonds formed when we offer ourselves to someone/something in this world. We must be careful because the price of betraying ones religion in favour of another, even though they lead to the same source, seems to be a dangerous.

Obviously the on true lord is the creator of all, but maybe there are temporal consequences? Forces that act in the world/powers that surround religions?

Anybody else wanna add in their 2 cents?

[Ragmaala]

This was the greatness of Dhan Dhan Baba Nand Singh Ji Maharaj. Words fail to describe, and fall short of praising baba ji. Whoever came to Baba ji returned with full blessings. Many spiritual seekers whether they were yogis, sadhus, muslims pirs, christian officers, etc who came to baba ji returned with full grace; with their queries of mind fulfilled. They were never asked to change their murshad. The main point here is about the murshad. Once you wholeheartedly submit your head to the murshad, its better to stick to that murshad and keep following the practices.

What Baba ji did do was put "barkat" grace into the spiritual life of the seeker without himself taking the credit; baba ji was so humble he didnt want to take the credit even if he helped the seeker.

I think pooran mahapurash are so connected with the truth, reality that some of the differences that we perceive might not be there for them.

I also remembered reading one story where Jesus and Mohammed came to Baba ji to listen to Gurbani keertan. Baba ji then asked the ragis to do kirtan for them. The ragis couldnt see anything at that time , but they were later told by Baba ji about the reality. Jo rass gurbani vich hai oh kithe vi nahi.

[gurdssingh]

What I gather from this is that Baba ji and other mahapurakh not only help sikhs stay attached to god but also help other people stay on their own paths.

I think this also shows the power/bonds formed when we offer ourselves to someone/something in this world. We must be careful because the price of betraying ones religion in favour of another, even though they lead to the same source, seems to be a dangerous.

Obviously the on true lord is the creator of all, but maybe there are temporal consequences? Forces that act in the world/powers that surround religions?

Anybody else wanna add in their 2 cents?

Sorry I must sound so naive but then surely there would not be any Sikhs or Muslims or Christian etc. If we should have stuck to our original religions? Is this a silly question, as surely we should choose the path which we think is right? Or do you just stay faithfull to the relgiion of your ancestors? Guru Nanak DevJi was only present on this earth from 1469, so?

[jang123]

Sorry I must sound so naive but then surely there would not be any Sikhs or Muslims or Christian etc. If we should have stuck to our original religions? Is this a silly question, as surely we should choose the path which we think is right? Or do you just stay faithfull to the relgiion of your ancestors? Guru Nanak DevJi was only present on this earth from 1469, so?

A Jeev-Atma needs a true Guru (SatGuru) to reach the final destination (jot mein jot). Baba Nand Singh ji could see that the landlord had a Murshad/Guru who was a true one and therefore asked him to stick with them. All the religions lead to the same destination but the difference lies in the approach. Sikhi is a Shabd Surat Marg which is the easiest one of all. Its like reaching at the top of a Lamp post to which a bird can reach with ease and an ant has to make many struggles when they are both starting from the same point.

[singh598]

Many Muslims used to come to Baba Ji - One was instructed to do 7 Sukhmani Sahib per day which he did for the remainder of his life