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Satsriakal everyone

I am a sikh boy,20 years old and I am a proud gursikh who has lately had an urge to trim my beard. I have been doing a lot of research on this but have not come across a reasonable argument. Why is it that me making a personal life decision of trimming my beard might move me away from my sikhi in the eyes of others. The reason why I would want to trim my beard is because I would feel more comfortable and neat. I proudly wear a turban and will always carry on wearing it with pride and honour.

Some of the reasons which I came across were that our Gurus kept their honour and many sikh men have given their lives to protect this honour. I completely agree with this and I understand we should never move away form the religion but slightly trimming the beard just to be more comfortable and make it look neat? is that not acceptable?

other reason was that we should respect how god has created us and should live in the natural form but then should we not factor in the advancements and change accordingly? if we live naturally only then is it not also wrong to get medical treatment? and so many other things we do in our daily life for instance even cutting out nails?

I am sorry if I have said something wrong but I would like to make it clear that sikhi is in my heart,trimming my beard will not change the sentiment one bit and I encourage you to counter what I have said as it will only help me take this decision.

thanks a lot :)

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1 Simple answer to this: Because Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave hukum to keep our Kesh !!!

End of story for me really

Your choice at the end of the day though !!! To get your answer you should really be asking and getting your answer from Shri Guru Granth Shaib Ji Maharaj ...

Waheguru !!!!

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Bro, don't cut your beard. That's my advice but in the end it's up to you.

Please don't be offended by what I say now but I have a point to make. What you said about wanting to wear your turban proudly, in my brutally honest opinion, what is the point? What is the point if you cut your beard? Maybe there is, if eventually you want to grow your beard again but otherwise it is a bit silly don't you think?

I notice this quite often amongst our folk. Once I was wearing a patka (I have a full open flowing beard) and my relative remarked about her son (who is a trimmed beard turban wearer) that he is the good boy amongst us. She said because he is the one wearing a turban. Eerrm, hello, where's his dhari aunty ji? I have seen this mentality alot. It's like the turban is more important than kesh (dhari). They are completely missing the point of wearing the turban i.e., it is all about looking afer the kesh. Dhari comes into this too. The beard is what separates us from the women. It is a secondary sexual characteristic just like the mane of a lion. If you look after it and shape and comb it and use a bit of oil and what not, nothing can look better than a beard.

It's your decision, I'm not going to jugde you for it.

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Why do u want to trim it? Thats not good excuse, that god didnt do perfect job of making you. They did, they gave u everything you need, its us that start messing around with ourselves to look cool, or to fit in with the world. Im not perfect but if u already have a beard and never trimmed it, my advise would be dont look at others, u can tie it, if u feel that tempted. But once u start trimming its goin to be hard to grow it again. I did th same thing with my hair and its so hard to keep it long, or grow it. Dont mess it up, your young and lucky to have such a nice beard.

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Bro, don't trim your dhari! I was going through the same stuff at home, my parents kept telling me I looked messy and untidy etc, that I looked old, but all I remembered was that Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave me their look, their bakshish is Kesh!

Just keep on remembering the kurbania the shaheeds have given for us so we can stand today with a joora on our head and

a dhari on our face!I

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It's up to you at the end of the day to trim or not. Try not to but if you do see if you are happier... if not then you might as well keep your kes again. As long as you have a clean heart then there is nothing to worry about.

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Most people are just lazy to keep their hair and beard clean and find the easy way out by getting rid of them.

Personally, I feel more lazy growing my hair lol.

In reply to OP, I think as someone who has recently started to let his hair grow after many years of being bold and clean-shaven I think i can relate to OP somewhat. I'm not very good at reading into what people are saying but to me, _random guy_ it sounds like you've made up your mind already about what your going to do but your just weary of what others might think.

First thing i say is dont worry too much about what other people "might" think. Think about how you actually feel about this which sounds a bit selfish really, but its you who will be affected. You give comfort and neatness as reasons to trim your facial hair, but I think you need to look a bit deeper into this cus IMO you can have a 20ft beard but still keep it neat lol if you look after it.

Also think about 10yrs time, will you still be trimming your beard? how will you feel doing that for so long?

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Short answer is it's easier to keep beard than to trim and try to grow it back later. It was the biggest regret of my life.

You can still keep it tidy and neat without trimming.

In the end, you're trying to justify your own actions to please yourself. Posting on here is only to help justify your decision further. You're trying to make yourself feel better. In the end, it will come down to you and you alone. You can't pin this on anyone except yourself.

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Veer u wil trim ur beard and then u will find theres something else that isnt perfect or neat or is messy. Then ul trim that. But what if your nose is too big? Or ur eyes too small? Will you cut and trim them too? Your kes are a part of your body. They too are your body parts.

In my opinion, my perception, a full flowing dhara looks amazing! Looks neat and beautiful just how our Dasam Pita would want us to look. Veer it all comes down to opinion and perception. The difference between us and people who cut their kes is, we are the Lions, the Singhs, the Leaders, and those who trim and cut their kes are sheep. They cut their kes so they can fit in, look like others. Seriously, what a sad sad life!

Can you imagine asking those same questions to Dasam Pita? Could you imagine Guru Maharaajs response?

Veerji Ardas kar that Maharaaj gives you strength to cut away these urges you are having.

Pul chuk maaf ji

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You want to look neat? So Guru Nanak Dev ji was unclean because of his beard? Guru Gobind Singh Ji was a dirty, filthy man because of his beard?

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Satsriakal everyone

I am a sikh boy,20 years old and I am a proud gursikh who has lately had an urge to trim my beard. I have been doing a lot of research on this but have not come across a reasonable argument. Why is it that me making a personal life decision of trimming my beard might move me away from my sikhi in the eyes of others. The reason why I would want to trim my beard is because I would feel more comfortable and neat. I proudly wear a turban and will always carry on wearing it with pride and honour.

Some of the reasons which I came across were that our Gurus kept their honour and many sikh men have given their lives to protect this honour. I completely agree with this and I understand we should never move away form the religion but slightly trimming the beard just to be more comfortable and make it look neat? is that not acceptable?

other reason was that we should respect how god has created us and should live in the natural form but then should we not factor in the advancements and change accordingly? if we live naturally only then is it not also wrong to get medical treatment? and so many other things we do in our daily life for instance even cutting out nails?

I am sorry if I have said something wrong but I would like to make it clear that sikhi is in my heart,trimming my beard will not change the sentiment one bit and I encourage you to counter what I have said as it will only help me take this decision.

thanks a lot :)

trust me, i know from a lot of mone sikhs who are my mates, they always question why on earth a dastar wearing Sikh choose to trim/cut beard. Even they realise it doesnt sit right

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what if your mustache is 4 inches long like mine and gets in your mouth covered with spit and food and gets pulled out painfully when you accidentally bite down in it??

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what if your mustache is 4 inches long like mine and gets in your mouth covered with spit and food and gets pulled out painfully when you accidentally bite down in it??

then you do this:

:D

hey if this Singh sahib can do it...cant we?

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Gur fateh, to reply to every one let us keep the argument brief and not run in to pages

To reply to the main question of cutting/triming your kesh/hair i have only one thing to say after contemplating over it for years and by that i mean my entire life more so after i attained 18 yrs of age I am 22 years old sikh now.

'' If you felt like doing it , you cannot change that feeling until you do it and revert back'' mind you i am not talking about changing views and attitude i am talking about the way you felt it.

To the supports of the Thought:

You guys are very right in what you are thinking , be it comfort you seek or looks, the fact is the thought has been perceived and you are not wrong or doomed it is only human to feel so , IT IS NOT A CRIME until perceived from the Sikh Commandments point of view. But you guys felt like doing it and staying a sikh it will not be accepted by the society , Stop caring about them and do what you have to do and see for yourself what feel's right

To the Non-suuporters of the Thought:

BHULACHUKAA DE MAAFI !! I have nothing but the utmost respect for you guys and you guys are the only means who will be the torch bearers of our religion. What ever you guys said is absolutely right but from where you are standing. You guys never FELT the urge to do it not that powerful or overbearing.It was okay at the beginning and now normal finally that you have accepted it or may be it was always a noraml way of life. KUDOS! But the fact is people like us have felt that need and every single day passing by makes it miserable to live. So pressurising a sikh to keep his kesh and showing him the path are two different things .PLEASE STOP PRESSURISING that is my only request and please continue showing the path that is your duty but please dont differentiate on the basis of looks because looks are not everthing in this world.

Waheguru ji da khalsa waheguruji de Fateh!!

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Waheguru g ka khalsa waheguru g ki fateh veer g.tusi tan amrit chkya hoya ae te twanu te jada knwldge hoege sikh itihaas di guru tegh bhadur sahib g ne te apna sees kurbaan krta c veer g par kade v vaala di bedbi ni kiti je asi eddan krange te nxt generatiion tak tan koi v sikh hi ni rhega..pls think abut this..n dnt cut ur beard

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Don't cut your beard. That is what Truth within you is telling you. You wont gain anything by cutting your beard but you stand to gain a lot by keeping it. At one time i worried that my beard can make people confused that i am a muslim extremist, but in fact its quite nice that non Sikh people see my beard and think i am a poet, writer, scholar, etc etc. It has gained me a lot of respect that I had never imagined.

What is more important is to focus on your personality, education, physical activities etc than worry about your looks. Make sure you are going to the gym and building powerful muscles and keeping your waist slim, learning self defence, learning swimming, getting into kayaking, rowing, lots other water sports. you could even learn horse riding, rock and mountain climbing, paraglyding, etc etc. So much you could do to make your body look strong and muscular.

And Gurbani will help you forge a radiant, glowing, confident, positive, creative, dynamic, forward looking and loving personality that will draw others towards you anywhere you work, go or live. Education likewise will give you skill sets and the ability to charm others with your extensive knowledge etc.

So all that you are hoping for by cutting your beard is there to gain in other more better ways and God has given you beard to keep, not cut and keeping your beard is a natural thing to do and one small beautiful act of pleasing God and Guru. Anywhere I go my beard is never a problem in making others love me and respect me. This is all through God's grace.

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If you've been thinking about trimming it, the your already half way there.

No good coming on here to get confirmation so that you can proceed without guilt.

All the ones that have these doubts usually end up doing it and then realise what a mistake it was and grow it back !!

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The reason sikhs keep their hair is because we believe their no reason for humans to remove hair in the first place. The rest of the world removes it and therefore we feel pressure to remove it. If everyone had beards this would not even be a question. We are lucky that as sikhs we get to see what real humans look like and appreciate living in that form, most people have never thought about what they do and why they do it.

I wouldn't trim it because if you trim it - it will grow back longer and thicker....

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hey,

do it , no worries, if ur heart is pure and if u respect others, it doesnot matter how u look, i know how u feel , in this society things go by looks, if u think u will look good after u trim , do it . let me ask something if you walk into a social gathering lets say party or a club , u see a girl and want to approach her, with full on beard do you think u can do that? time have changed this is not 1900 anymore. bottom line be true and pure from heart and adapt to the modern society !!!

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Bhaiji, we can all sit here typing and quoting Gurbani on reasons why you should keep your kesh but the initial decision is yours.

It is only you that can pick up that razor and put it to your face.

Take into consideration what the Sangat has said but your final decision will come from within, no one can make this decision for you.

Hope you make the right choice. . . :happy2:

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hey,

do it , no worries, if ur heart is pure and if u respect others, it doesnot matter how u look, i know how u feel , in this society things go by looks, if u think u will look good after u trim , do it . let me ask something if you walk into a social gathering lets say party or a club , u see a girl and want to approach her, with full on beard do you think u can do that? time have changed this is not 1900 anymore. bottom line be true and pure from heart and adapt to the modern society !!!

bas kar, vadda modern aya

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