Why Are Sikh People So Against Radha Soami Path

[Mand5]

Why is it that sikhs are so against rs? First of all i wonder if we asked the great

Guru nanak dev ji if he had a problem with this rs path would

He to be as selfish as his follower never he would welcome everyone with

open arms as all the rs baba ji is doing is spreading the message,

just like the 10 gurus did, and to be honest this is where sikhs have got it

all wrong when they think the sikh bible is only for sikh it was meant

For all mankind not only sikhs and if we look deeper into the sikh bible

it is clearly writen that you have to search for a living spiritual teacher

And one who can give you the five holy names, im not here to upset

anybody simply want some answers

[Jaggaa]

If you're going to come onto a SIKH forum seeking answers to questions, you're going to have to stop referring to Guru Granth Sahib Jee as a "sikh bible".

[SikhWorldTv]

Mand5 I suggest you learn to be a bit more respectful before you think its right to question Sikhi in such an abrupt and negative manner. Just come out with it why pretend as you are a RS are you not comfortable with your "panth?"

I think the newbie monitoring system is broke as it is letting in all kinds of weird stuff

[Paneer Monster]

mand5 - im an ex radhasoami.....

before i continue, well done for seeking answers from another source other then your radhasoami community. for this i must commend your efforts. I use to ask my family questions, they use to tell me not to ask others because others are "non believers... they think there way is right"... also my family use to say "maharaji (rs baba) is a walking granth... those who insult him are acting in ignorance"... my friend... you, and all other radhasoamis that believe in this pakhandi baba have been brainwashed. i hate to disapoint you, but he isnt god - just the thought really does turn my stomach. the radhasoami baba is NOT antarjami (innermost knowing)... if he was, he would have knew my plans to turn to king of kings Guru Granth Sahib ji MAHARAJ - SACHE PATSHAH and he would have stoped me from doing so... but he didnt... hes nothing more then a con artist. please save your family from the falsehood of radhasoami. at their time of death u do not want them thinking of a pakhandi "maharaj"... or reciting a fake mantra. Everyone knows Gurbani is truth and real... you want your family thinking of Vaheguru and reciting Vaheguru at their time of death.

i can answer all your questions. please message me your phone numeber and we can have a chat.

many things wrong with radhasoami mat.

1 - randha soami land in beas is currently legally in the name of Guru Granth Sahib Ji Mahraj

2- radha soami forbids alchahol and meat... not tobacco... read into radha soami history, or read "the masters answers" and find out why tobaco is not forbiden (or allowed) in radhaosami faith

3-radha soami replaced sikh greating of WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH with "radhasoami"

4-radha soami replaced gurmantra with a fake mantra

5- radha soamis do not belioeve in guru manio granth

6- radha soamis do nothing for the victims of the 84 genocide - not even the radhasoami victims

7-radhasoami baba does not speak out against injustices (guru nanak sahib did)

i can go on and on and on. the list is truely endless. radhasoami baba is nothing... nowhere near our 10 satguru sahibs and guru granth sahib ji. the works of our Puran Satguru Sahibs is nothing short then the Work of God. All radha soami baba does is fool innocent and simple sangat - this is no achievement as punjabis are generally simple in nature.

Radha soami refuse to believe GURU granth sahib ji is guru... yet radhasoami mat use to be centered around Guru granth sahib ji. Guru Granth Sahib Ji use to be parkash in beas... they wheeled in sikh sangat with ttheir fake prachar... messing with Gurbani is messing with Vaheguru... this is not a small sin that can be overlooked. yes gurbani and guru granth sahib ji maharaj is universal... but that does not mean it can be misused. this is mahapaap (huge sin).

radha soami copy sikh traditions like guru ka langar, yet they do not believe its necessary to keep kara kachera kirpan kesh khanga...

they call dasam bani false in "spiritual letters" book

in "spiritual heritage" book they say sri harimanir sahib is just "brick and water" - how offensive

the other radhasoami book "guru nanak, his mystic teachings" - is wholly offensive to sikhs. bhai gurdas sahib's bani is discredited... they also disagree with the documentated history behind gurdwara panja sahib...

the list is endless.... i turely can go on and on.

why does radhasoami only mess with sikh history and sikh beliefs and not the beliefs of other faiths?? why does radhasoami baba keep sikh apperance??

regarding your comment "you need a living guru" this is true. guru granth sahib ji is alive. if you believe in guru granth sahib ji mahjaraj you will be aware of the following truths:

"bani guru guru hai bani vich bani amritsare"

"sun sun jeeva terey bani"

and others. there is no difference between gurbani and the guru.... we live by listening to GURBANI. we can not believe in what you guys believe in. satbachan is not gurbani... far from it. a sikh would never recite the words of tobacco users, and a sikh would never accept a tobacco user as their satguru. tobacco is strictly forbidden in sikh faith. even if gurbani told us to run to a living human for salvation (which it doesnt)... i would never run to the feet of such a fraudster radha sooami baba.

do not study gurbvani from pakhandi baba, please learn gurmukhi and study for yourself.

ive done it all... my family use to visit haynes park, and beas... we used to attend bhandara and put our names down for sewa...

i am so thankful that Vaheguru has saved my family from that path and brought us to the path of Gursikhi.

I am deeply saddened that there are literally millions of radha soami devotees.

its very saddening.

ill finish on this tuk of guru gobind singh ji maharaj..

sagal duar ko shhad ke, ghaiho tuharo duar, banhe gahe kio laj as gobind das tuhar - i have abandoned all gates (paths) and i have come to yours o lord, o lord please protect my honour and hold my arm, for i am your humble servant

for any mistakes bhul chuk maaf

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh.

(mand5, inbox me, we can discuss this further if you wish, i know its hard to accept... but believe me your baba is a fake... go back to the house of Our Puran Satguru's... we know for a fact they are real and true... have no doubts and embrace their pavitar bani)

[JSinghnz]

Awesome answer Paneer Monster.

I hope the OP will get the message loud and clear and come back to SIKHI.

[Paneer Monster]

it really saddens me...

all those poor radhasoami sangat. vaheguru. its really not their fault they have gone to rs baba because there is many problems in life, and its goto be said... our gurdwaras do not provide the support which our community needs. our leaders do not deal with grass root problems and communicate with us on a level. we (newer generations) need to identify these problems and take the lead in this.

radhasoamis do not practice gurbani kirtan. ALL OUR SIKH GURU SAHIBS PRACTICED GURBANI KIRTAN.... 5TH GURU SAHIB invented the saranda musical instrument... radhasoami baba says it is WRONG to use musical instruments for kirtan. when radhasoami's sing gurbani sahib, they never use instruments as its aginst radhasoami mat... this is stupid... musical instruments are CENTRAL TO SIKHI. radhasoami baba does not know better then our Satguru Sahibs. i can go on and on. i really can.

please save your family and accept the truth. dont take my word for it. study sikh history study gurbani then you will see why we are not willing to embrase radhasoami's as a part of the sikh community.

[Singh559]

Radha soami and dera choota sauda target unpard bibian (elder and young ladies) in India. These babay prey on young girls and abuse them and then the elderly unpard (uneducated) woman then convince the family to believe in this. Those who follow these cult leaders in the west should be ashamed they fall for such simplistic form of grooming.

Here's a documentary on these thugs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_wFx76yhH0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40tl0nBWHJk&feature=plcp

[Singh559]

[hawk13]

Why is it that sikhs are so against rs? First of all i wonder if we asked the great

Guru nanak dev ji if he had a problem with this rs path would

He to be as selfish as his follower never he would welcome everyone with

open arms as all the rs baba ji is doing is spreading the message,

just like the 10 gurus did, and to be honest this is where sikhs have got it

all wrong when they think the sikh bible is only for sikh it was meant

For all mankind not only sikhs and if we look deeper into the sikh bible

it is clearly writen that you have to search for a living spiritual teacher

And one who can give you the five holy names, im not here to upset

anybody simply want some answers

I do not blame if u call our guru bible while other religious books r treated like books as it contains fiction storeies but Guru Granth Shiab is guru its words r guru words gurshabad if u listen to it in open mind even u may not be knowing gurbani u will understand it.Second concept is Guru Panth it is khalsa panth represented by Panch piaras,we have great sikhs like Bhai Taru Singh ji ,mANI sINGH JI WHO GAVEUP THEIR LIVES LIKE TRUE SIKHS.DOES RADHASOAMI SOCALLED GURU HAS GUTS TO GET HIS SKULL SEPERATED LIKE TARU SINGHJI .He is busy diverting river water to his dera in beas making farmers poor of 80 villages poor and homeless by encroaching on their lands what kind of guru u call him.

[VanHelsingh]

Never trust anyone you 'likes' their own post. :biggrin2: :blush2: