Four Of The 5 Pyaaray Were Not Punjabi

[Guest dasguruka]

What is happening with the Sikhs of today ???

If sant baba says jump in the ocean and after you see the mermaids, - Guru Nanak Ji will appear. So we all go and do just that !!!??

We have our utmost faith in babaji's statement- regardless of what Guru Nanakji HIMSELF preached ??

Khalsa Ji Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale isn't any sant baba. He's was a Jathedaar of Damdami Taksal.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

This taksal is nirmala taksal more hindu oriented then sikhism.

They don't know basic facts of the history and they claim they know about who was who in previous birth.

[Koi]

This taksal is nirmala taksal more hindu oriented then sikhism.

They don't know basic facts of the history and they claim they know about who was who in previous birth.

And I suppose according to you, along with the Taksaal, the Udasi, Nirmala, Sewapanthi, Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa, Bhai Daya Singh Samparda and all the puraatan Samparda's are also wrong in this belief? Have you heard Khalsa Moolmantar? http://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/audio/khalsa-mool-mantar

Let us know what you think. Even Bhagat Kabir Ji (with Mata Loi Ji) came back to receive amrit from Dasve Patshah Ji.

[Koi]

What's this supposed to mean? Is this some scientific equation or something??????????????

Bro, it's not about equations. It's about the understanding that the Panj Pyare were not random people, but mahaan Mahapursh who had un-ending kamai from time infinite.

[Koi]

Bhai Daya Singh Ji - Luv (Son of Bhagwan Ramchandar Ji Maharaj)

Bhai Dharam Singh Ji - Bhagat Dhanna Ji

Bhai Himmat Singh Ji - Phandak (The hunter ("Biyaad") who captured "Chattarbhuj Panchhi Bhagwan")

Bhai Mohkam Singh Ji - Bhagat Namdev Ji

Bhai Sahib Singh Ji - Bhagat Sain Ji

Thanks for the correct matches. Obviously I was off. Would you also know about the incarnations of the 4 Sahibzades?

I'm not sure if the Sahibzade Sahibaans are avtars, though I have heard Brahma, Vishnu, Shiv and Indar, but am not too sure

[tuhintuhin]

And I suppose according to you, along with the Taksaal, the Udasi, Nirmala, Sewapanthi, Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa, Bhai Daya Singh Samparda and all the puraatan Samparda's are also wrong in this belief? Have you heard Khalsa Moolmantar? http://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/audio/khalsa-mool-mantar

Let us know what you think. Even Bhagat Kabir Ji (with Mata Loi Ji) came back to receive amrit from Dasve Patshah Ji.

waheguru ji....heard this from Giani Thakur Singh ji's katha..........but nobody's gonna believe this here.....they need logical proofs that can satisfy their limited knowledge....

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

And I suppose according to you, along with the Taksaal, the Udasi, Nirmala, Sewapanthi, Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa, Bhai Daya Singh Samparda and all the puraatan Samparda's are also wrong in this belief? Have you heard Khalsa Moolmantar? http://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/audio/khalsa-mool-mantar

Let us know what you think. Even Bhagat Kabir Ji (with Mata Loi Ji) came back to receive amrit from Dasve Patshah Ji.

Koi ji, Bhagat Kabeer ji came back to take amrit amusing.

Gurbani is called dhoor di baani, if you understand the meaning.

[VanHelsingh]

I'm not sure if the Sahibzade Sahibaans are avtars, though I have heard Brahma, Vishnu, Shiv and Indar, but am not too sure

When I was a kid there was talk of the 5 Pyaare being the Pandavas (from Mahabharata) and Guru Sahib being Vasudev Krishan!

A part of me bows in complete reverance to the bachchans of Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindrawale because...well, to praise them wouldn't even be enough. Then there's the other side of me which says that going by that rationale (i.e. 5 Pyaare were previously gods, etc) that anybody notable - apart from Guru Sahibs - in Sikh history who have achieved greatness hasn't been due to their efforts in overcoming obstacles and transcending their humble beginnings, but they were pre-ordained for greatness because of their previous existence as Hindu gods. Does anyone appreciate the danger in this? It sends out the message that only the divine can achieve anything of note in Sikhi --- the average man who wasn't a powerful god or bhagat in a previous life is basically reduced to scrabbling around searching for spiritual scraps in the hope of becoming somebody, but forever doomed to mediocrity or nothingness because he lacks that divine patronage from high above. Surely this philosophy is in complete opposition to the fundamentals of Sikhi?

Nevertheless, as I said previosuly, I have no problem in believing in such bachchans if they are true. I'm sure there's certain deficiencies in myself that allows such small doubts to enter my mind.

[JSinghnz]

waheguru ji....heard this from Giani Thakur Singh ji's katha..........but nobody's gonna believe this here.....they need logical proofs that can satisfy their limited knowledge....

Please hear and understand from our living Guru, Guru Granth Sahib Ji to increase your "limited knowledge."

[luckysingh99]

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