Question On Parkash At Darbar Sahib

[Tony]

Fateh

Saw the morning programme on tv for Darbar sahib

Just a few questions for clarification:

1. Noticed that the Asa Di // was already in progress before the Maharaj's parkash was done.

I was under the impression that it is only done once the parkash has been done.

2. Whilst doing the parkash the granthi singhs were wiping the sheets with some sort of sponge. I am unsure of seeing this before.

Has anyone else noticed these? Are these changes to the Maryada?

Appreciate clarification.

Fateh . . .

[jivan]

veer ji, this maryada has been going on at sri harmandir sahib for CENTURIES , read singh sahib giani kirpal singh ( ex jathedar akal thakat) book on maryada and ithaas of darbar sahib..

after ishnan sewa the doors of darshani deori open, and half of asa di vaar is started, then a shabad for darshan is done ( i.e. darshan ko bal jaee, etc) during this time maharaj comes from sri kotha sahib in palki to sachkhand harmandir sahib. when the narsingha horn is blown the ragis stop kirtan all the sangat stands up and does satnam sri vaheguru jaap. maharaj comes inside and sits on their throne.

premi singhs who have a permanant duty @ Darbar sahib do ' bhatta de swayeeay' while parkash is going on.. granthi singh sahib starts sewa....after the 1st ramala is taken off the granthi sahib puts guru sahib on their sees and uses a sort of cotton wool type sponge with has alot of perfume on it, 1st of all to take all the creases out of the white ramala and also make it smell nice. this is done on all the white ramaleh after to take out creases and give scent to it. after this the ramaleh are folded and 3 pillows placed on top.. when ham avgun bhare comes granthi singh does parkash etc hukamnama. after hukamnama 2-3 shabads are done then anand sahib and ardaaas for 1st chaunki of the day and for karaah parshad. after this asa di vaar is started again from where left off and done until sampooranta.

[Paneer Monster]

Yes Asa Di // is inturrupeted for parkash - this is maryada.

i also asked 2 singhs bout this, i was informed that the maryada of Sri Harimandir Sahib has been like this since the times of Dhan Sri Guru Ram Das Sahib.

Does this mean that back in the day Asa Di // would be sung and Guru Ji would arrive midway through?

[jivan]

Gurfateh, guru sahib never themselves sat on a throne in darbar sahib, but Sri Aadh Granth Sahib jee were brought each day and done parkash at darbar sahib. so we can guess that Sri Aadh Granth Sahib were brought half way during asa ki vaar. but at the same time ive read this in a book by a kathavaachik of hazur sahib about the ithaas of hazur sahib, in which he mentions guru gobind singh ji used 2 come in their mauj during asa ki vaar, so we could conclude that guru sahib used 2 give darshan during asa ki vaar was going on ( as all sangat would be sitting waiting for guru jis darshan)- will read up on this tonight .

But to date no other gurdwara sahib in the world has this maryada. Only Sri Harmandir sahib has this unique maryada at all other gurdwara sahibs Maharaj parkash is done then nitnem and asa ki vaar.

[Tony]

Fateh . . .

Thanks for the clarifications. I just was not sure hence ..

Whilst on the maryada question...... I noticed that on one of the prominent sikh channels earlier this month their was a akhand path done. Well done to the TV channel for such a valiant effort. However when the sukhasan was done, the Granthi Singh started Chaupai Sahib and did the Sukhasan. When I watch other videos of Gurudwaras and Takhat Sahibs the Granthi does Kirtan Sohila and does the Sukhasan. What is the Maryada for Sukhasasn.

It is just that it is the first time I have seen Sukhasan being done with Chaupai Sahib yet no Kirtan Sohila was recited.

Pls clarify

Thanks

Fateh .. . .

[GuptUnknown]

Fateh . . .

Thanks for the clarifications. I just was not sure hence ..

Whilst on the maryada question...... I noticed that on one of the prominent sikh channels earlier this month their was a akhand path done. Well done to the TV channel for such a valiant effort. However when the sukhasan was done, the Granthi Singh started Chaupai Sahib and did the Sukhasan. When I watch other videos of Gurudwaras and Takhat Sahibs the Granthi does Kirtan Sohila and does the Sukhasan. What is the Maryada for Sukhasasn.

It is just that it is the first time I have seen Sukhasan being done with Chaupai Sahib yet no Kirtan Sohila was recited.

Pls clarify

Thanks

Fateh .. . .

Chaupai Sahib is recited when Sukh Asan is in morning/afternoon. Evening Kirtan Sohila is recited.

[JasSinghKhalsa]

Good discussion.

[ghatak]

and which puratan saroop of guru granth sahib ji is being parkashed in today's time?

and which puratan saroop was parkashed before 1984 attack?

pls respond