Niddar Singh Nihang Is A..

[Astral]

I just realised this whilst I was in bed, and had to post it before I forget.

Now we all heard the word "nang" which is often directed at Niddar etc, personally it's a horrid word (naked nihang), which divides the panthe more. Niddar is a Nihang, he is not the typical Nihang though because he doesn't follow the typical Nihang maryada since he has a lot more beliefs in Hindu deities etc , then it hit me like lighting.

We all know of the stories in the times of Maharaj Ranjit Singh, there was a lot of complex conflictions going on in the panthe, as a lot of rebellious Nihangs didn't & wouldn't accept orders from Maharaj Ranjit Singh.

"In addition to the regular and irregular army.. Some were religious fanatics.. they acknowledged no rulers or laws but their own; think nothing of robbery, or even murder, should they happen to be in the humour for it, Maharaj Ranjeet Singh himself having on more than one occasion narrowly escaped assassination by them" - Baron Charles Hugel [travels in Kashmir and the Panjab], translated from German

Now this Baron Charles didn't know too much detail about the Nihangs, but who are these people that he is talking about. They are not the typical Nihang, who were the people that betrayed Maharaj Ranjit Singh???? DURGA SINGHS!

Now take a step back, and combine this with the context of Niddar .

Durga Singhs, were Nihangs but they were much much more linked with Hinduism than the typical Nihang... So Nidar isn't a fake Nihang as people say but he has views or may actually be a Durga Singh, now does that not make perfect sense in relations to his very hindu-sikh views ?

Image: Durga Singh's

[HSD1]

Not really. Akalis/Nihangs/whatever were against Maharaja Ranjit SIngh as they saw him as lenient on non-sikhs living under Khalsa rule and too soft with the British in India.

Niddar paints a lover-dovey history of SIkhi in relation to Hinduism. The truth is that all of us Punjabi Sikhs have a hindu heritage before the last 500 years. That doesnt mean we are hindus, we are now SIkhs. Like how arabs became muslims or europeans became christians. Akalis and Nihangs have always been against Hindu power as that leads to the rule of the Brahmin, something no Sikh in their right mind would want.

[genie]

Makes sense there was various units of the Khalsa army made up of Nihungs of various beliefs. One carrying the banner of a Hindu deity on Sikh Battle Standards can be clearly seen captured by an artist during the time. I'll try put the picture up if i find it.

[Southall Youth]

Ajj kal deh Nihangs aint Sikh - true SIKHS are Singhs like Satwant Singh Beant Singh Jinda Sukha Dilavar Singh - these nihangs are just Hindus in my view

[genie]

As you can see the Hindu goddess durga is imprinted on the captured Sikh battle standards that these particular nihungs carried. The last picture has the Hindu god brahma on it if im not mistake? Perhaps Dogra battalion of the Khalsa Durbar?

[Singh559]

Firstly, the reason why they tried to assassinate Maharaja Ranjit Singh was because he was under influence of the dograys who brought in murtian into Gurudwara Sahibs and their sanatan mat into Sikhi. It's the reason why the Sikh raj eventually fell, the dogras eventually made Maharaja Ranjti Singh so confused that he thought his closest Sikhs were against him. The Nihangs were highly against any hindu influence and that's why they tried to kill Maharaja Ranjit Singh.

There are medical reports of very honest Sikhs being assassinated by dogras at night time in hospital wards and them buying back Kashmir after stealing from the Khalsa treasury.

Secondly that picture is relatively new of Nihang Singhs and they aren't any "Durga" Nihangs. Refer to my signature for a typical Singh around the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh.

The Khalsa didn't believe in murtian or any of that stuff. During Maharaja Ranjit Singh's raj a lot of manmat went on and thus he was called by Akali Phula Singh to Harmandir Sahib to receive his lashings.

Niddar isn't a nang, nor is he a Nihang. He's a hindu in Khalsa uniform.

Anyone who says Sikhs are hindus or worship devis/murtian are not Sikhs and i'm not afraid to say it.

I forgot which Baba ji it was but he said to understand history you need to understand Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and look at history with that lens.

[genie]

It was the conspiring Hindu Dogra's in government in Khalsa Durbar along with their British agents who eventually brought down the Sikh empire and Khalsa Raj in the form of assassinations of the late Maharajah's sons one by one in brutal or dubious accidental ways.

Had these idiots known how history would unfold at the determent of their community, ours and the Indian subcontinent as a whole I would imagine they wouldn't have dared to conspire against sarkar-e-khalsa.

[Only five]

Akali Phula Singh ji left Maharaja Ranjit Singh ji because the dogras clouded this King's mind. Does that make him a hindu devi worshipper? NO! The original posters train of thought is weak and holds no weight. There is no hstory tracing back to Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj that says there was such thing as Durga Singhs. This has all been made up to support Nidar's views to worship devis. Also another thing to keep in mind is that not all of history is truthful. Meaning just because it was done in the past this does not make the practice according to the Khalsa Panth. We have a current example of Darshan Ragi slandering Gurbani. This will be recorded in history and people in the future will talk about this fool and his misdeeds. Now just because this fool slandered Gurbani in the past does that make his statements according to the Khalsa Panth? Hell NO!

Many people put their own cultural backround into Sikhi because they can't let go of their individuality. Hence they can't see Sri Waheguru ji Maharaj and end up falling at the feet of devis. A good example of this today is the 3HO cult who can't let go of their own identity.

This nidar loving group will bring up history that is not true or produce history as always being true. But the sangat here is smarter than to fall for these weak tricks. Once this false history tactic doesn't work, they will resort to bullying sangat. So then one of their 'warrior's' will come on here saying, why don't you go to nidar and have this discussion. They are very childish and need to come up with better cunning ways to increase their membership.

If you Nidar lovers need a hand on how to become more cunning, pm me and i'll help you out....okay

[GPS]

Nihungs in India do not revere Durga. They are devotees of akal purakh. They consider as chandi as sri sahib and not durga.

Nidar singh of uK may have his own views but do not associate him with Indian Nihungs.

[jassa]

This is the first time i am hearing word "Durga singh" No where in history it is used. We are already divided dont create these new divisions and that to just for fun. Sharam Karo

Akali Phula Singh never left Maharaja Ranjeet singh many claim that he did so but its not true. Infact Akali Budhadal and other nihang armies were never part of maharaja ranjeet singh fauj. They were not paid by him nor they follow any commands of maharaja. Shaheedi of Akali Phula Singh is live example of this that they work own their own. Maharaja could only ask for the help of dal panth thats it then it was dal panths wish to help him or not.

The only dispute between Maharaja Ranjeet singh and Akali Phula singh was not because of Dogras but the westernisation of sikh army. They french hiring to train the sikh army.

Akali Nihangs were not against "Hindu or Durga or Muslims or Allaha or British or Whatever" Not even a single person on records was killed because he was from a different religion.

PS- Can any one tell when and how these attempts ti kill maharaja were made ?