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Severe Ocd (Bad Unwanted Thoughts)

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On 2011-8-29 at 2:36 PM, Guest stuckinadoorway said:

I have relentless OCD. I have it in the Gurdwara even more sometimes. The thoughts are blasphemous and sexual and sometimes a mixture of both. I have been advised to go to the Gurdwara at amrtivela and do simran. I try but sometimes my OCD gets worse when I am in the Gurdwara and I feel worse off then if I hadn't had gone altogether. My mind then tells me I am being punished for my thoughts and that I am unwelcome in the Gurdwara. I have been like this for years but recently it has become worse. I have had CBT from a psychologist but it did not work and I am on SSRIs which help a bit but not completely.

I really don't know why I have to go throeavy duugh this. Maybe I slandered a saint in my past life or even this one. Some of my thoughts are towardsaints. The sufferings of such slanderers are indescribable. What hope it there for me? Is there a solution? I pray, pray and pray by doing ardas but it seems like God is not listening. This problem just does not leave me alone. I don't know what to do. I have also tried seva. Sometimes the thoughts then come while I am doing seva and it just feels so wrong doing seva while I have these thoughts so I stop it.

What am I to do?

have you tried nutritional therapies including probiotics and heavy duty  vitamin b12 b6 and b3 daily intake ? It can help with depression and intensity of internal anxiety . Another thing worth considering is Homeopathy as it does take note of ALL your mental symptoms , emotional symptoms and physical ones so will be helpful on multiple levels . 

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On 2017-6-13 at 6:17 PM, jkvlondon said:

have you tried nutritional therapies including probiotics and heavy duty  vitamin b12 b6 and b3 daily intake ? It can help with depression and intensity of internal anxiety . Another thing worth considering is Homeopathy as it does take note of ALL your mental symptoms , emotional symptoms and physical ones so will be helpful on multiple levels . 

The op has issues focusing his mind. Im pretty sure its not just a case of popping a multi vitamin pill.

But "heavy duty" is NOT the way to go. Taking abnormal doses of vitamins over and above recommended allowances can have damaging severe effects on your health,

Op, please disregard this irresponsible advice. I would urge you to speak to a qualified, practising medical doctor if you suspect any deficiencies. Not a phantom googling expert who is entirely unqualified to provide such advice which could be perilous at your cost.

WJKK WJKF

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On 2017-6-15 at 0:19 AM, Guest london jwaan said:

The op has issues focusing his mind. Im pretty sure its not just a case of popping a multi vitamin pill.

But "heavy duty" is NOT the way to go. Taking abnormal doses of vitamins over and above recommended allowances can have damaging severe effects on your health,

Op, please disregard this irresponsible advice. I would urge you to speak to a qualified, practising medical doctor if you suspect any deficiencies. Not a phantom googling expert who is entirely unqualified to provide such advice which could be perilous at your cost.

WJKK WJKF

by heavy duty I meant beyond a  multi-vit would supply and no I am not being irresponsible you seem to forget I did ASK if he had considered nutritional therapy because I have had good results with  my patients addiing cruciferous veg and magnesium rich green leafy veg , probiotics to  rebalance  the ratio of good to bad bacteria  as there is a link to gut biome and depression/OCD .  Stressed out individuals do use up zinc, vitamin c and b vitamins at a higher rate than others and the B vitamins help support the nervous system

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24332563

http://www.mdedge.com/clinicalpsychiatrynews/article/135918/anxiety-disorders/gut-microbiome-dysregulation-implicated-ocd

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21635-bacteria-could-be-significant-cause-of-ocd/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/491505-does-vitamin-b-12-cause-ocd-to-be-worse/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/19979294_Vitamin_B12_and_folic_acid_serum_levels_in_obsessive_compulsive_disorder

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On 2017-6-18 at 1:41 AM, jkvlondon said:

by heavy duty I meant beyond a  multi-vit would supply and no I am not being irresponsible you seem to forget I did ASK if he had considered nutritional therapy because I have had good results with  my patients addiing cruciferous veg and magnesium rich green leafy veg , probiotics to  rebalance  the ratio of good to bad bacteria  as there is a link to gut biome and depression/OCD .  Stressed out individuals do use up zinc, vitamin c and b vitamins at a higher rate than others and the B vitamins help support the nervous system

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24332563

http://www.mdedge.com/clinicalpsychiatrynews/article/135918/anxiety-disorders/gut-microbiome-dysregulation-implicated-ocd

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21635-bacteria-could-be-significant-cause-of-ocd/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/491505-does-vitamin-b-12-cause-ocd-to-be-worse/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/19979294_Vitamin_B12_and_folic_acid_serum_levels_in_obsessive_compulsive_disorder

Im sorry, but anyone but a medical qualified person should not be providing any opinion on what another should take. Googling vitamins is not the same as a medical degree, When you say "Patients" - I take it you are a qualified doctor, registered with the GMC?

For example, zinc toxicity, caused by taking too much - or heavy duty doses - can affect the absorption of copper and iron. Nice one JKV. Op, fancy an iron deficiency?

Taking too much B6 can cause nerve damage, too much B3 can cause Jaundice and liver toxicity. Nice one. Op, fancy a bit of that too complement your OCD?

Thought not. Me neither. See a doctor.

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I fully understand your situation. I have read somewhere that Sikh Saints have advised that when you experience  a Bad Thought, think of Waheguru jee as it is GOD who has put this thought into your head. You may be reaping the fruit of what you have planted in this life or a previous life.

These thought tell us that we need to do more Simrin and especially do more Sangat at the Gurudwara. Do not fight the thought, just say thank you to GOD and picture Waheguru in your head. I picture Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj on his Horse with his Talwar up in the Air, giving me his support. It brings hope and confidence to fight these bad thoughts in this age of Kul Yug

God already knows your intentions. Everything is a Gift from God, both good and bad thoughts. Do Ardas everyday to Wahaguru and ask for his assistance and compassion.

One last important thing is to give yourself permission to do Seva, Simrin and attend Sadth Sangat even when having these Bad thought. Company o the Holy is the best place to wash the diseased mind.

 

Thank You

 

Wahahguru Jee ka Khalsa Wahahguru jee ki Fateh.

 

 

 

 

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On 29/08/2011 at 2:36 PM, Guest stuckinadoorway said:

I have relentless OCD. I have it in the Gurdwara even more sometimes. The thoughts are blasphemous and sexual and sometimes a mixture of both. I have been advised to go to the Gurdwara at amrtivela and do simran. I try but sometimes my OCD gets worse when I am in the Gurdwara and I feel worse off then if I hadn't had gone altogether. My mind then tells me I am being punished for my thoughts and that I am unwelcome in the Gurdwara. I have been like this for years but recently it has become worse. I have had CBT from a psychologist but it did not work and I am on SSRIs which help a bit but not completely.

I really don't know why I have to go through this. Maybe I slandered a saint in my past life or even this one. Some of my thoughts are towards saints. The sufferings of such slanderers are indescribable. What hope it there for me? Is there a solution? I pray, pray and pray by doing ardas but it seems like God is not listening. This problem just does not leave me alone. I don't know what to do. I have also tried seva. Sometimes the thoughts then come while I am doing seva and it just feels so wrong doing seva while I have these thoughts so I stop it.

What am I to do?

Same here man, its messed up! I feel hopeless when these stupid thoughts dont go away.

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