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My views , shoukd nobody feels agitated, Gurbani says " Rang sabhey narainey jetey man bhavann ." ( ang 134- 3, Baramaha Manjh M5) Nature and colors are all made by Waheguru, parmeshar himself , how come One is bad and other good.

Because green was the color of moghul army flag , the use in khalsa dal was taboo to avoid misundestanding during battles, and for the same reason red was banned as pahadi rajas , who were perpetually at war with guru sahib ji . It was simple logicand practice without religious adsignment for colors. Did not guru sahib had many muslims and hindus on his side?

read above replies, mohkam singh explained it very well

above that bhai nand lal ji;s rehatnama explains it very well .

o baba ji, rang sabhe means , all pleasures

correct meaning

ਰੰਗ ਸਭੇ ਨਾਰਾਇਣੈ ਜੇਤੇ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੰਨਿ ॥

Rang Sabhae Naaraaeinai Jaethae Man Bhaavann ||

In the Lord are all pleasures which please the mind.

not colors , gurbani de artha da anarrth na karo, tusi pehlan v dand lai si. aggge ton tyaan rakheyo

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Regarding red portion in rehitnama..this need to be properly contextualized, its very basic beginning relative conduct at initial stage out there to help seeker meant to be used as aid - one can refrain from wearing red if color effects their state of mind if we were talk about gunas- red seem to fall in rajogun. Bhai dya singh ji in his rehtinama classify lifestyle of sikh in three different categories- gristhi(rajogun/satogun), behingum(satogun) and akaali nihang(rajogun/balance of satogun/tamas)-soorme to prevent sikhs falling from same pitfalls as many other dharamis sharia panthis have.

Our youths seem to be turning some basic contents rehitnamas (due to lack of contexualization, fail see things in stages, different aspects) into crazy anglican christian like ten commandments or some crazy pandit turning things into bhraminvad, or some crazy mullah who idiolize haddith to the point where they start using hadith principles as yard stick to measure someone spirituality totally ignoring stages within dharma, essence teaching.

I am afraid some of our youths are falling into same sort of mindset sharia mullahs are following- let hadiths take precedence over gnosis teaching of quran. etc.

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Regarding red portion in rehitnama..this need to be properly contextualized, its very basic beginning relative conduct at initial stage out there to help seeker meant to be used as aid - one can refrain from wearing red if color effects their state of mind if we were talk about gunas- red seem to fall in rajogun. Bhai dya singh ji in his rehtinama classify lifestyle of sikh in three different categories- gristhi(rajogun/satogun), behingum(satogun) and akaali nihang(rajogun/balance of satogun/tamas)-soorme to prevent sikhs falling from same pitfalls as many other dharamis sharia panthis have.

Our youths seem to be turning some basic contents rehitnamas (due to lack of contexualization, fail see things in stages, different aspects) into crazy anglican christian like ten commandments or some crazy pandit turning things into bhraminvad, or some crazy mullah who idiolize haddith to the point where they start using hadith principles as yard stick to measure someone spirituality totally ignoring stages within dharma, essence teaching.

I am afraid some of our youths are falling into same sort of mindset sharia mullahs are following- let hadiths take precedence over gnosis teaching of quran. etc.

I know that I feel unsettled in the presence of bright red now , wasn't always like that ...I guess as one develops one's frequency changes and certain frequencies of sound , light appeal more ...all is good , all is hukham . No strict rules here .

I remember reading about an experiment about colours in prison , they painted a cell in red and it had the effect of increasing respiration, aggression in the person's body.

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Nothing like Rosso red on Ferrari Formula 1 cars :lol2: .

Like one of the earlier comments I was also told to avoid wearing red and green colours and I still do try, but I agree with Neo and WLS, they both make valid points.

Next we'll want to change the colour of something important than runs through each and everyone of us :wow:

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Nothing like Rosso red on Ferrari Formula 1 cars :lol2: .

Like one of the earlier comments I was also told to avoid wearing red and green colours and I still do try, but I agree with Neo and WLS, they both make valid points.

Next we'll want to change the colour of something important than runs through each and everyone of us :wow:

bhai sahib of course it would be true blue ... in every sense

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Bump? (I don't understand the whole colo(u)r thing.)

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ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਇਕ ਰੰਗੁ ਹੈ ਆਪੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗੀ ॥

Aapae Har Eik Rang Hai Aapae Bahu Rangee ||

आपे हरि इक रंगु है आपे बहु रंगी ॥

45 ਤਿਲੰਗ (ਮ: ੪) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੨੬ ਪੰ. ੧੩

Raag Tilang Guru Ram Das Page:726 Line: 13

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ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਇਕ ਰੰਗੁ ਹੈ ਆਪੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗੀ ॥

Aapae Har Eik Rang Hai Aapae Bahu Rangee ||

आपे हरि इक रंगु है आपे बहु रंगी ॥

45 ਤਿਲੰਗ (ਮ: ੪) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੨੬ ਪੰ. ੧੩

Raag Tilang Guru Ram Das Page:726 Line: 13

ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਇਕ ਰੰਗੁ ਹੈ ਆਪੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗੀ ॥

आपे हरि इक रंगु है आपे बहु रंगी ॥

har ik rang hai āpe baho rangī.

Himself the Lord is manifest In many forms, and Himself He is one form alone.

ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਸਾਈ ਗਲ ਚੰਗੀ ॥੨੨॥੨॥

जो तिसु भावै नानका साई गल चंगी ॥२२॥२॥

Jo ṯis bẖāvai nānkā sā▫ī gal cẖangī. ||22||2||

Whatever pleases Him, O Nanak, that alone is the good thing.

SGGS Ang 726

?? Dhan Dhan Guru Ram Das Ji

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I do not know much about this topic, but there are some rahit namas which I think have already been mentioned in this topic.

I don't like the colour red, but that's just me?. I used tell my friend not to wear red just because I didn't like it lol. And the reply I got was Har ik rang rab da a. But I still didn't want to wear it. ?

This shabad comes to mind when somebody says lal.

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥

बिलावलु महला ५ ॥

Bilāval mėhlā 5. Bilawal 5th Guru.

ਲਾਲ ਰੰਗੁ ਤਿਸ ਕਉ ਲਗਾ ਜਿਸ ਕੇ ਵਡਭਾਗਾ ॥

लाल रंगु तिस कउ लगा जिस के वडभागा ॥

Lāl rang ṯis ka▫o lagā jis ke vadbẖāgā.

He, who is exceedingly fortunate is dyed with Beloved's love.

ਮੈਲਾ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਨਹ ਲਾਗੈ ਦਾਗਾ ॥੧॥

मैला कदे न होवई नह लागै दागा ॥१॥

Mailā kaḏe na hova▫ī nah lāgai ḏāgā. ||1||

This day goes not dirty ever, nor sustains it any stain.

SGGS Ang 808

?? Dhan Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji

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Just as a sadhu is not exclusive to those who have dread locks and orange/black/white clothes with tilak (meaning a true sadhu is someone who does bhagti of Paramatma), same thing should be said of the colors red and green, they are not exclusive to whatever group people are associating them with. Meaning a true sadhu aka devotee of Paramatma is free to where whatever clothings, as long as it fits to whatever their respected Guru has instructed them to wear.. right?

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ANG 726

There is a Gurmukhi version

ਅੰਗ ੭੨੬ ਪੰ. ੧੩

Only in English Translation they use the word "Page".

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ਲਾਲੁਚੋਲਨਾਤੈਤਨਿਸੋਹਿਆ ॥

लालुचोलनातैतनिसोहिआ ॥

Lāl cẖolnā ṯai ṯan sohi▫ā.

That red dress looks so beautiful on your body.


ਸੁਰਿਜਨਭਾਨੀਤਾਂਮਨੁਮੋਹਿਆ ॥੧॥

सुरिजनभानीतांमनुमोहिआ ॥१॥

Surijan bẖānī ṯāʼn man mohi▫ā. ||1||

Your Husband Lord is pleased, and His heart is enticed. ||1||

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ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥

Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ.

There is but one God. By True Guru's grace he is obtained.

ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ ਘਰੁ ੭ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥

रागु आसा घरु ७ महला ५ ॥

Rāg āsā gẖar 7 mėhlā 5.

Asa Measure 5th Guru.

ਲਾਲੁ ਚੋਲਨਾ ਤੈ ਤਨਿ ਸੋਹਿਆ ॥

लालु चोलना तै तनि सोहिआ ॥

Lāl cẖolnā ṯai ṯan sohi▫ā.

The red gown looks beautiful on thy body.

ਸੁਰਿਜਨ ਭਾਨੀ ਤਾਂ ਮਨੁ ਮੋਹਿਆ ॥੧॥

सुरिजन भानी तां मनु मोहिआ ॥१॥

Surijan bẖānī ṯāʼn man mohi▫ā. ||1||

When thou became pleasing to the Lord, then, is His heart bewitched.

ਕਵਨ ਬਨੀ ਰੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਲਾਲੀ ॥

कवन बनी री तेरी लाली ॥

Kavan banī rī ṯerī lālī.

What has given thee this red bloom?

ਕਵਨ ਰੰਗਿ ਤੂੰ ਭਈ ਗੁਲਾਲੀ ॥੧॥

ਰਹਾਉ ॥ कवन रंगि तूं भई गुलाली ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Kavan rang ṯūʼn bẖa▫ī gulālī. ||1|| rahā▫o.

Whose love has rendered thee tulip-crimsons. Pause.

ਤੁਮ ਹੀ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਤੁਮਹਿ ਸੁਹਾਗੁ ॥

तुम ही सुंदरि तुमहि सुहागु ॥

Ŧum hī sunḏar ṯumėh suhāg.

Thou art beautiful and thou the happy wife.

ਤੁਮ ਘਰਿ ਲਾਲਨੁ ਤੁਮ ਘਰਿ ਭਾਗੁ ॥੨॥

तुम घरि लालनु तुम घरि भागु ॥२॥

Ŧum gẖar lālan ṯum gẖar bẖāg. ||2||

In thy home is the beloved and in thy home is good fortune.

ਤੂੰ ਸਤਵੰਤੀ ਤੂੰ ਪਰਧਾਨਿ ॥

तूं सतवंती तूं परधानि ॥

Ŧūʼn saṯvanṯī ṯūʼn parḏẖān.

Thou art chaste and thou the most distinguished.

ਤੂੰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਭਾਨੀ ਤੁਹੀ ਸੁਰ ਗਿਆਨਿ ॥੩॥

तूं प्रीतम भानी तुही सुर गिआनि ॥३॥

Ŧūʼn parīṯam bẖānī ṯuhī sur gi▫ān. ||3||

Thou art pleasing to thy beloved and thou possesseth superior understanding.

ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਭਾਨੀ ਤਾਂ ਰੰਗਿ ਗੁਲਾਲ ॥

प्रीतम भानी तां रंगि गुलाल ॥

Parīṯam bẖānī ṯāʼn rang gulāl.

I am pleasing to my darling, therefore I have assumed tulip-red dye.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਭ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਨਿਹਾਲ ॥੪॥

कहु नानक सुभ द्रिसटि निहाल ॥४॥

Kaho Nānak subẖ ḏarisat nihāl. ||4||

Say Nanak that the Lord has looked on me with a favouring glance.

ਸੁਨਿ ਰੀ ਸਖੀ ਇਹ ਹਮਰੀ ਘਾਲ ॥

सुनि री सखी इह हमरी घाल ॥

Sun rī sakẖī ih hamrī gẖāl.

Listen thou, O my mate, this is the only toil of mine.

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਆਪਿ ਸੀਗਾਰਿ ਸਵਾਰਨਹਾਰ ॥੧॥

ਰਹਾਉ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੧॥੫੨॥

प्रभ आपि सीगारि सवारनहार ॥१॥ रहाउ दूजा ॥१॥५२॥

Parabẖ āp sīgār savāranhār. ||1|| rahā▫o ḏūjā. ||1||52||

The Lord himself is the Decker and Adorner. Pause second.

SGGS Ang 384

?? Dhan Guru Arjun Dev Ji

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ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥

Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ.

There is but one God. By True Guru's grace he is obtained.

ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ ਘਰੁ ੭ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥

रागु आसा घरु ७ महला ५ ॥

Rāg āsā gẖar 7 mėhlā 5.

Asa Measure 5th Guru.

ਲਾਲੁ ਚੋਲਨਾ ਤੈ ਤਨਿ ਸੋਹਿਆ ॥

लालु चोलना तै तनि सोहिआ ॥

Lāl cẖolnā ṯai ṯan sohi▫ā.

The red gown looks beautiful on thy body.

ਸੁਰਿਜਨ ਭਾਨੀ ਤਾਂ ਮਨੁ ਮੋਹਿਆ ॥੧॥

सुरिजन भानी तां मनु मोहिआ ॥१॥

Surijan bẖānī ṯāʼn man mohi▫ā. ||1||

When thou became pleasing to the Lord, then, is His heart bewitched.

ਕਵਨ ਬਨੀ ਰੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਲਾਲੀ ॥

कवन बनी री तेरी लाली ॥

Kavan banī rī ṯerī lālī.

What has given thee this red bloom?

ਕਵਨ ਰੰਗਿ ਤੂੰ ਭਈ ਗੁਲਾਲੀ ॥੧॥

ਰਹਾਉ ॥ कवन रंगि तूं भई गुलाली ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Kavan rang ṯūʼn bẖa▫ī gulālī. ||1|| rahā▫o.

Whose love has rendered thee tulip-crimsons. Pause.

ਤੁਮ ਹੀ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਤੁਮਹਿ ਸੁਹਾਗੁ ॥

तुम ही सुंदरि तुमहि सुहागु ॥

Ŧum hī sunḏar ṯumėh suhāg.

Thou art beautiful and thou the happy wife.

ਤੁਮ ਘਰਿ ਲਾਲਨੁ ਤੁਮ ਘਰਿ ਭਾਗੁ ॥੨॥

तुम घरि लालनु तुम घरि भागु ॥२॥

Ŧum gẖar lālan ṯum gẖar bẖāg. ||2||

In thy home is the beloved and in thy home is good fortune.

ਤੂੰ ਸਤਵੰਤੀ ਤੂੰ ਪਰਧਾਨਿ ॥

तूं सतवंती तूं परधानि ॥

Ŧūʼn saṯvanṯī ṯūʼn parḏẖān.

Thou art chaste and thou the most distinguished.

ਤੂੰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਭਾਨੀ ਤੁਹੀ ਸੁਰ ਗਿਆਨਿ ॥੩॥

तूं प्रीतम भानी तुही सुर गिआनि ॥३॥

Ŧūʼn parīṯam bẖānī ṯuhī sur gi▫ān. ||3||

Thou art pleasing to thy beloved and thou possesseth superior understanding.

ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਭਾਨੀ ਤਾਂ ਰੰਗਿ ਗੁਲਾਲ ॥

प्रीतम भानी तां रंगि गुलाल ॥

Parīṯam bẖānī ṯāʼn rang gulāl.

I am pleasing to my darling, therefore I have assumed tulip-red dye.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਭ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਨਿਹਾਲ ॥੪॥

कहु नानक सुभ द्रिसटि निहाल ॥४॥

Kaho Nānak subẖ ḏarisat nihāl. ||4||

Say Nanak that the Lord has looked on me with a favouring glance.

ਸੁਨਿ ਰੀ ਸਖੀ ਇਹ ਹਮਰੀ ਘਾਲ ॥

सुनि री सखी इह हमरी घाल ॥

Sun rī sakẖī ih hamrī gẖāl.

Listen thou, O my mate, this is the only toil of mine.

ਪ੍ਰਭ ਆਪਿ ਸੀਗਾਰਿ ਸਵਾਰਨਹਾਰ ॥੧॥

ਰਹਾਉ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੧॥੫੨॥

प्रभ आपि सीगारि सवारनहार ॥१॥ रहाउ दूजा ॥१॥५२॥

Parabẖ āp sīgār savāranhār. ||1|| rahā▫o ḏūjā. ||1||52||

The Lord himself is the Decker and Adorner. Pause second.

SGGS Ang 384

Dhan Guru Arjun Dev Ji

but the positive red it stemming from the 'robe of honour' one receives through simran and bhagti ...remember when we read about sant and bhagats they are described as having a lalli about their face . What would entice Guru ji , it can only be our loving minds and hearts in His remembrance . This negative red is the one that drags us headlong into 5 chors - if you eat in a red room , you eat more lobh

if you wear red you attract attention so get full of haumai and Ahankar

if you are in a red room it increases your aggressive nature krodh

the colour red is associated with base chakra so has frequency effect on sexual sphere also I read in a study that if either sex wears that colour it makes the other sex more 'interested' Kaam

if you wear red the more you want wear it and it catches your own eye MOH

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Please please please, red is nothing more than just a colour. The Gurbani about the lady wearing red and Guru Ji advising her to get rid of the red, put yourselves in that time, wearing red for females was a 'dress up' colour.

If Guru Granth Sahib Ji clearly tells us God is within all colours and then within none, how can we Sikhs follow a Rehat written by a man and not our Guru. I know the history behind Bhai Nand Lal Ji but we need to start thinking and questioning. If whatever the rehatnama contradicts what the Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj says, dispose of it because I know that our Gurus could not say one thing in one place and then go against it or contradict it in another passage.

There is no colour restriction in Sikhi and nor do certain colours mean anything. If people believe wearing red makes one and think of a sin then maybe its for that individual to practice this upon themselves because the colour red wont mean the same for everyone.

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Please please please, red is nothing more than just a colour. The Gurbani about the lady wearing red and Guru Ji advising her to get rid of the red, put yourselves in that time, wearing red for females was a 'dress up' colour.

If Guru Granth Sahib Ji clearly tells us God is within all colours and then within none, how can we Sikhs follow a Rehat written by a man and not our Guru. I know the history behind Bhai Nand Lal Ji but we need to start thinking and questioning. If whatever the rehatnama contradicts what the Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj says, dispose of it because I know that our Gurus could not say one thing in one place and then go against it or contradict it in another passage.

There is no colour restriction in Sikhi and nor do certain colours mean anything. If people believe wearing red makes one and think of a sin then maybe its for that individual to practice this upon themselves because the colour red wont mean the same for everyone.

You punjabis are dumb. Red was worn by Bandai Sikhs and ascetics, Green was worn by the mughal army. We are told to wear blue garments by Pyara Bhai Daya Singh, the first of the panj pyare and we are told in rehat not to wear red or green. Who are you compared to Pyara Bhai Daya Singh?

Also in Karninama by Akali Guru Nanak Dev Ji it states that the Khalsa will wear blue.

Drop your ego. All you punjabis that wanna wear your red or green patiala shahi paghs to match your shirts and ties go ahead, but don't try and justify it with your manmat when its stated in maryada and you haven't bothered to look into it.

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read this good and proper before you start giving your manmat views;

In Assa-di-Vaar, the following words "Neel Bastar Ley Kaprey Pahrey, Turk Pathani Amal Kiya." - meaning that people started wearing blue clothes and started following the ways of the Turks. It clearly denotes that the blue garments were worn by the Muslims.

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Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I highly recommend you read this topic: http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/51619-if-blue-is-the-khalsa-colour-then-were-did-it-go-wrong/

It will provide some information on why there are 4, (not just blue), and will give some deep insight on why those 4 colors are important. Whatever that means to you is your own business, (always good to know the reasons of things before making it some blind ritual). The original 3 colors were Blue, Orange, and White, with the fourth coming as part of the Khalsa coming together to add it: black. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

read this good and proper before you start giving your manmat views;

In Assa-di-Vaar, the following words "Neel Bastar Ley Kaprey Pahrey, Turk Pathani Amal Kiya." - meaning that people started wearing blue clothes and started following the ways of the Turks. It clearly denotes that the blue garments were worn by the Muslims.

I noticed you edited your post, so I changed mine to help you out. Edited by Jacfsing2
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Hi and thank you.

I edited my response because when I read 'punjabis are dub' I immediately started to respond with hate so in order to stick to the topic, I removed a lot of what I originally wrote.

Coming to your link - thank you but this again only refers to followers of our Guru and I cannot accept what someone else has said because of they way they understand history when it goes against or contradicts what Gurbani states. I am an Amrithdari before I am punjabi (putting that out there in case people start judging before even knowing) Comment in brackets are following the first response I got from GurdialSingh.

Coming to the book that Gurdial refers to, prophesy is also against Gurmat. Ill post a link to which I read as much closer to Gurbani and the Gurus teachings then anything else I have read on here ( no offence intended but its all hearsay without any evaluation or reference to anything historically written or sealed by our Guru) -

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/karni-nama-and-raj-nama-the-sikh-book-of-prophecy.30035/

Having certain colours being acceptable for Khalsa and to refrain from others is like having certain days and times approved for prayer or good fortune, its a Brahmin thought and not Gurmat.

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Having certain colours being acceptable for Khalsa and to refrain from others is like having certain days and times approved for prayer or good fortune, its a Brahmin thought and not Gurmat.

nothing to do with bhaman reet.

The Khalsa is distinguishable by uniform and by colour.

to make it easier to understand, think about why 2 teams playing football wear different colours.

What about Bhai Daya Singhs rehitnama? do you believe it to be made up because we are told to go hunting? is this antigurmat in your view?

Also the translation of the pangti you quoted from Asa Di Vaar is wrong. there is nothing to mention everyone followed the way of the turks and pathans. it says everyone wore blue clothing and robes and the turks and pathans attained power.

According to Ithihaas, did Akali Guru Nanak Dev Ji wear Neela bana in Mecca?

Can you please explain the contradiction in Bhai Nand Lal Rehitnama?

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The reason why blue was chosen was because at that time, blue was normally associated with low caste people which makes sense especially where Gurbani is concerned. Guru Ji made us to serve humanity at any level.

Whilst I do believe blue is colour associated with Khalsa, I also stand by my previous comments that colour is not restricted. I say this because if it was, it would contradict what Gurbani teaches us and therefore then make our Gurus change what they said I know full well they would never contradict anything they say because they are pure. I also say this because it is not for us to judge what others wear, Khalsa or not.

Even if a particular maryada states it clearly that no other colour is to be worn apart from blue (which is actually doesnt), I would still stand by what I say that colours are not restricted because they are not and if blue is the familiar choice due to historical facts etc, then I or anyone on this earth are no one to judge others, its not our job. If our speech cannot help another human by speaking words of a sweet nature then its best to keep it schtum.

I am nothing compared to the puratan pyare but having said that, I do believe there are a lot of texts made specifically to contradict one another to divide the panth, hence I stick to Gurbani and Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj because this is one topic where no author can tamper with.

You say Ithihaas, another thing which I listen to but dont follow blindly. The only teachings I follow blindly are from the Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj.

Khalsa is distinguishable from uniform and colour, I agree but there is a time and place for everything. That uniform was required then when times were really hard. we have it easy right now and there are very few Sikhs left who can portray the puratan Sikh idealogy, nimrata and way of teachings when talking to another human being, that said, I am not saying that wearing bana is no longer required, I think its lovely to see Singhs and Kaurs wearing bana, they have guts to wear them because I am not clean/pure enough to wear one openly. I have much respect for them but at the same time, colours are not restricted.

A Maryada may state the Khalsa will wear blue but it also does not specifically state that we cannot wear any other colour?

Sorry to go on but I hope my explanation above explains my stand on this subject.

Khalsa today, can wear what they want if they wish, the relationship and answer they have to give is to the Guru so its futile for us to converse on whether what is right or wrong, we are not the judges.

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The painting at hazur sahib that is claimed to be original picture of tenth master made on request of King bahadur shah shows Guru Gobind Singh ji wearing Green.

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Here is an image of Turban of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

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Bedsheet of Guru Gobind Singh Ji haveing red color embroidery

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Chola of Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji which used to be red before it lost its color,

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Even in Guru Granth Sahib take any tuuk which mentions blue color and it will be associated by muslims.

History records when Guru Nanak Sahib went to mecca he <banned word filter activated> blue not green.

Panth Parkash granth records color of army of Abdalis forces that were red and black not green and I can go for ever.

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ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਇਕ ਰੰਗੁ ਹੈ ਆਪੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗੀ ॥

Aapae Har Eik Rang Hai Aapae Bahu Rangee ||

आपे हरि इक रंगु है आपे बहु रंगी ॥

45 ਤਿਲੰਗ (ਮ: ੪) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੨੬ ਪੰ. ੧੩

Raag Tilang Guru Ram Das Page:726 Line: 13

In continuation with the verse mentioned above by brother singhbj singh:

Jo Tudh Bhavay Nanaka, saee gal changee. That what pleases Nanak, is the right thing.

Sat Sree Akal

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keshri is NOT a Khalsa colour Basanti i.e. Yellow is ...Guru HarGobind ji installed one Blue and One Yellow nishan sahib at Akal Takht not kesri and blue ...this is a recent trend since SGPC .

For this reason I don't wish for kesri nishan sahibs to flutter forever , just Nishan Sahib ...

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