Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  

Miracles In Sikhism

Recommended Posts

S_Singh    2

Guru fateh.

Recently I had an argument with my friends on the question of miracles in sikhism.

We all know that Sikhism does not approve of miracles.

But I am having a few doubts on these questions, please help to clarify...

Guru Nanak Dev Ji Saheb going to mecca and the mecca turning towards his feet.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji Saheb stopping the rock that Wali Kandhari pushed on him, his hand print still remains on the rock.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji removing fresh water with his arrow at a gurudwara somewhere in Nanded (Sorry forgot the name of the Gurudwara)

Guru Ji turning the bitter 'rithas' sweet for Bhai Mardana Ji.

Bhagat Namdev Ji turning the mandir after pundits refused him to go in.

There are so many others that we hear and read about. Would these be classified as miracles?

Please help to clarify.


  • Like 2

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest shastr   
Guest shastr

there are miracles, who said there are no miracles. gurbani itself is a miracle. guru ji is a miracles. guru ke sikh are miracles. guru ke panj piyare are miracles. `1699 vaisakhi was a miracle. baba deep singh ji faught with head cut off, bhai mati daas ji did jap ji sahib while getting cut in half. bhai taru singh stayed alive 22 days after getting scalp removed. baba mani singh ji did sukhmani sahib while getting cut into peices. guru ke 40 singhs at chamkaur sahib faught against 2,200,000

there are countless miracles in sikhi.

in punjabi the word for miracle is kautak.

i think people mitake the word miracle for the punjabi word "karamaat" which is like magic tricks and stuff. more like ridhi sidhi, which is not looked upon as a good thing, only distractions.

  • Like 1

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
Only five    1,109

Here is a definition of a miracle and let's see if miralces are possible.

miracle-an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause

One question to ask now is if God is bound to natutal powers of the universe. Obvious the answer is no because if Waheguru was, then it would not be Waheguru, but natural laws would be named God, the almighty. Since Waheguru is higher and we live in Waheguru's Hukam, then nothing is a miralce and everything is part of the Ultimate laws (Waheguru's Command).

As Sikhs we do not live in natural laws, if you do then your not going to reach Waheguru. Satguru Nanak Dev ji stopping a rock and rotating Mecca is Waheguru's Hukam. Waheguru breaks natural laws when he choses. Natural Laws like gravity are NOT permanent. They have been broken and will be broken, with Waheguru's Command. ONly Waheguru Commmand is permanent and everlasting.

Whoever said that 'miracles' are against Sikhi, is very ignorant or following an atheist type, so called 'Sikhi'. If 'miralces' are against Sikhi, then believing in God is also against Sikhi.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
S_Singh    2

Thank you for enlightening me on this,

I think the concept of kautak and karamaat makes a lot of sense.

Further clarification on this please,

Baba Atal Rai Ji in his childhood days had to leave the world because his friend had died and he made him alive again.

When Baba Atal Rai returned home, the Guru said to him with a touch of sternness, “I teach men to obey God’s will. But you act against His will. Your grandfather, Guru Arjan Dev, courted martyrdom at the altar of his faith. In spite of being tortured, he kept calm, and quiet and kept thinking of God. He kept repeating:

Thy will is ever so sweet to me.

Guru Hargobind Sahib reminded young Atal that two of a trade seldom agreed and kept quiet after that. Baba Atal Rai said, “O True King, may you live for ages. I feel that I should go back to our true home.”

So saying, he went away. He took his bath in the sacred sarovar, took four rounds of the sacred Harimandir Sahib and went to the nearby Kaulsar Sarovar (lake) - his favourite haunt. He sat near its bank. Bending his head forward, he supported his chin with his bat. With his eyes fixed on the sacred temple, he recited Japji Sahib, offered prayers. After that, he departed peacefully for his True Home on July 23, 1628 A.D.

Thanks you Pajis and Penjis for sharing your knowledge with others,

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
AmarjitKaur    11

as much as I have learned from Kathas by various kathakars, the miracles do happen. SIKHs by doing nam simran/meditating on GOD can become capable of dong miracles as well, but they are discouraged from doing so. When you attain the oneness with GOD, you attain lot of other states in the process, making miracles happen is one of those. But SIKH's aim is not to show miracles. SIKH's aim is to stay within vaheguru's hukam. SIKH is only supposed to do ardas to vaheguru.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
Mehtab Singh    3,888

nwtk cytk kIey kukwjw ] pRB logn kh Awvq lwjw ] 14]

naattak chaettak keeeae kukaajaa || prabh logan keh aavath laajaa || 14||

Leave aside mimicry, miraculous actions and misdeeds, The Devotees of the Lord feel ashamed even to mention these malpractices. (14)

Guru Gobind Singh in Dasam Granth on Pannaa 126

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Changing his viewpoint on Sikhs being vegetarian -   
    • Its not just him. One of the most ridiculous notions peddled by the left is that ALL of the far right are idiots who can't tell the difference. The reality is something completely different. People like Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos, both of whom have a respectable number of followers remind people of this whenever there is an attack as the media paints us with the same brush as the terrorists.  Most of the big Right wing "preachers" i guess is an accurate term, know the difference and tend to cite it always.
    • Don't worry about not having a spiritual experience. The main thing is you don't divert from God's name. You don't want to get into ego from experiences either.  All people are not the same, an experience to one person may not be the same as another, however large or small it maybe. We should bear in mind, that we do not recite God's name for experiences, but to think of it as our duty and love towards them. If we start to ask for experiences, then we have forgotten what our goal is.  It is up to Waheguru to grace somebody with an experience. It can happen how much more or less time on one spends on Simran, than another. Do not compare yourself to others, an experience will happen in Waheguru's Hukam, not by anybody saying how or when.  Its good to increase Simran, Gurbani if you wish to and spending more time to devote yourself towards it, will never be incomplete of anything. But we must focus on doing Simran and not expect anything back in return. Just leave that to God to decide.  Say if somebody has an experience, does it necessarily mean it has to be a physical one or that is visible? And then what after that?  Doing Simran, reciting/listening to  Gurbani is an experience in itself. We are here in this world for this experience of having the opportunity to, that is also an experience we should be grateful for. But we forget God is everywhere.  ਤੂੰ ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਮਹੀਅਲਿ ਭਰਿਪੁਰਿ ਲੀਣਾ ਤੂੰ ਆਪੇ ਸਰਬ ਸਮਾਣਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ 
      तूं जलि थलि महीअलि भरिपुरि लीणा तूं आपे सरब समाणा ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ 
      Ŧūʼn jal thal mahī▫al bẖaripur līṇā ṯūʼn āpe sarab samāṇā. ||1|| rahā▫o. 
      Thou art fully contained in water, dry land nether and upper regions. Thou Thyself art pervading everywhere. Pause. 
      SGGS ji Ang 731 🙏🏻 Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji   I understand that you maybe desiring for an experience to feel the presence of God for yourself, but just remind yourself they are everywhere. When we do Simran with love for God, then we'll start to feel the anand (bliss) of it, when God graces us with it.   
    • Apart from the ignorant British attacking a Sikh wearing a turban (which I hear is very rare, I'm Canadian/American btw), I doubt that the British people will target Sikhs. Instead, what they will do is far worse, they will use our history with the Muslims to incite us and basically use us as fodder as they did in their Raj, though this time, it'll be purely against the Muslims. 
    • It is going to be of no use to you to know how much simran to do. You simply have to arrange time for yourself. .. approximately 2 hours 40 minutes everyday. One tenth of your time everyday to Devote to simran. It is a blessing from God if one is able to put in this amount of time.  Pichle janam dhi kamayi counts as well greatly. God has preselected exactly whom he would like to have these experiences.  If you have these experiences, then you have to learn to not spread them about and you will have more. There are many more things that come to pass... we are spiritual beings suffering from separation from our creator. Reconnection is going to occur slowly and understanding these experiences comes slowly too. As you keep your simran up, you are able to obtain great amounts of happiness and peace from it. So forming a habit of simran should be done as a conscious effort.