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Why is there always quoting of random poetry (or shar as they are known in Punjabi) by stage speaker in Gurdwara allot is meaningless.

Be better if the quoted from Guru Granth Sahib.

I think they are trying to come across as some Fakir type.

Bogus poetry being quoted in Gurdwara, also has connotations of Punjabi culture they different and should be kept apart.

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I think you know the answer: The stage secretary is trying to promote himself as some kind of poet litterateur. Then, in the langar, the bhenji's will come up to him and say, "That was a great speech, bhaji!" :)

There's a lot of poetry in the world, and not all of it matches up with the philosophy of Guru Granth Sahib.

If people want to seem like they know a lot, don't quote Urdu poetry, quote Bhai Nand Lal Ji in Persian.

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hehe fordcapri, ouchhh you brought back some baddddddddd memories of having to sit in a gurudwara and endure some guy's long long quarter ripe ''shaers'' that were totally uninspiring, apart from lame manmatia emotion and attachment centred 'geets' read after a wedding etc etc . As you said the focus should be on Gurbani, and none of this hocus pocus manmade stuff which is a total pain, i cannot tell you how much all that kinda stuff puts me off. All i have smelt in them is mental cleverness and false flights of fantasy.

On the other hand, i did really love Dharam Singh Zakhmi's kirtan style where they complimented Gurbani with Bhai Gurdas's vars/kabitts, Bhai Nand Lal's various poems as well as poems by Bhai Sahib Bhai Vir Singh. Even the poems of Professor Puran Singh are very inspiring as well as beautiful poems, blessed Sikhs occasionally post on this site or other Sikh sites.

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poetry by Sikhs in Guru Darbar is not new, it is a tradition from the time of Guru Gobind Singh. since that time, if not before, poetry has always been recited in Gurus Darbar.

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Maskeen ji used to quote a lot and whats wrong till its meaning less ...

Saab kuch khuda see mang liya

Khuda ko mang kar

Uth te nahi hai hath mere

Is dua ke bad

:) :) :)

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Maskeen ji used to quote a lot and whats wrong till its meaning less ...

Saab kuch khuda see mang liya

Khuda ko mang kar

Uth te nahi hai hath mere

Is dua ke bad

:) :) :)

I’m sure there is a verse in SGGS which is similar to the few lines you quote from Maskeen.

So why not just quote something from the Gurus, instead wasting trying to come up something new, and trying to be “arty farty”

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Khuda manzoor karta hai dua jab dill see hoti hai

Par yehi ek mushkil hai ke yeh badi mushkil se hoti hai

Te Maskeen nahi kush hunda its Maskeen ji ...

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Khuda manzoor karta hai dua jab dill see hoti hai

Par yehi ek mushkil hai ke yeh badi mushkil se hoti hai

Te Maskeen nahi kush hunda its Maskeen ji ...

Respect :happy:

All very but why is he coming up with his own text/sayings when he should be referring to SGGS JEE.

If someone wants to come up with poetry or sayings when we all have similar scripture in SGGS JEE then tell them to go and hire a hall/theater do it there, but dont try and take away/cheat the sangat out their Sikhi.

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Fateh Fordcapri Ji,

I personally do not see anything wrong with recitation of poetry so long as it conforms with Gurmat and is used sparingly in kathas/veechars. We have to remember Guru Gobind Singh Ji had 52 poets in his court, each with their own special quality but they all sang/wrote poems in accordance with Gurmat. It is just a way of showing one's love for Guru Sahib and His Amrit Bani. Look at the kirtan done by Sant Ranjit Singh Ji for instance, he sings praises of Guruji in his own unique style and with words that are not always from Gurbani but still gets everyone charged up with passion for the Bani of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj and inspires people to connect with Gurughars. However, I will also say that if it is recited to get applause from the sangat, or something of similar nature then it is totally wrong.

Bhull Chukk Maaf

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:)

:)

Gāhe ṣufī gāhe zāhid gāhe qalandar mīshavad
Rangāhe mukhtalaf dārad but-e 'iyār mā

At times He is a Sufi, at times a devout Bhagat, at times a Mast qalandar
Our clever Lover is the master of disguises!

Bhai Nand Lal Ji :)

:)

:l:

Jhim Jhim Varsai Amrit Dhaara

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Bhai Nand Lal ji poetry is embodiment of sargun divine love towards sargun aspect of divine. For bhai sahib ji, there is no difference between divine and most profound manifestation of divine- sri guru gobind singh maharaj.!!


Bhai nand lal ji devotion towards sri guru gobind singh ji is mesmerizing as powerful if not more as mira bhai devotion and love towards sri krishan ji.

Edited by N30S1NGH
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