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"Located in the centre of the forehead and the pituitary gland, the Brow Chakra or Third Eye is related to the ability to see both physically and psychically. It is the seat of our intuition and inner wisdom and when balanced allows us access to ‘the bigger picture’ of our lives. Inner vision is therefore connected to this chakra."

I dont understand why i have pain in the exact place only , like i dont have a full out headache, just right dot on that spot between my eyebrows,,,,

maybe sitting on computer too long, oversleeping, over using my intuition,

or maybe my third eye hurts becuz im not folowing my destiny fully, or theres sum type of blockage,

any ideas as to why the pain?

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More about the 7 chakras:

http://www.learningmeditation.com/chakras.htm

Interesting article about kathavachik Giani Takhur Singh ji saying that if any chakra is damaged to put your hand on it and recite mul mantar:

http://darshansblogg.blogspot.com/search?q=chakra

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actually third eye is the pineal gland not that it matters. But also sometimes mine hurts too, when i try to jap nam, and try too hard it makes it hurt. But it does not hurt as much, when i tried to eat foods rich in omega fatty acids, because i heard it is good for your brain. Eating walnuts and linseeds are a good source for this, if you don't eat fish. But i do this, and although it does not hurt as much, when i try to concentrate too much, it still hurts. The pain is right in the centre of my brain. Where the pineal gland would be.

It may have something to do with wrong sleeping patterns. Did you know DMT (dimethyltryptamine) the most potent psychedelic drug in the world. And one of the most illegal drugs ever. Well it is a chemical that we produce naturally everynight by our pineal glands. It happens during rem sleep, and is responsible for our dreams. Also when you die you pineal gland/third eye makes this chemical. And in reptiles they actually have a physical third eye, because it has a retina and a cornea known as the Parietal eye. well the reason im talking about this is because, sleeping patterns affect the pineal gland, which is why it might make it hurt. I know my sleeping patterns are messed up, sometimes i go to bed early sometimes late, everyday is inconsistant. This stuff can mess with the third eye.but honestly i really dont kno the answer

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It could be any number of reasons from the mundane to the spiritual.

If it is as a result of bhakti, then reciting naam while concentrating an inch or so below the navel at the chakra there will relieve such pain and also act to prevent any kind of chakra opening up before one is ready.

Also touching the tip of your toungue on the upper palate of your mouth (just behind your upper row of teeth) while you are doing bhakti keeps your prana circulating down your front and back rather than just up the spine and outwards.

K.

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what happens when a chakra opens when ones not ready?

like for example in EGO You show off your intuition and by doing so loose it?

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what happens when a chakra opens when ones not ready?

like for example in EGO You show off your intuition and by doing so loose it?

Depends which one it is. Usually premature opening of the third eye chakra is associated with intense crippling headaches, visual hallucinations and mental illness. It's unlikely to happen though unless one does intense meditation on this chakra, and even then seeing gods, angels, and communicating telepathically with spiritual beings is not always a sign of madness. If such things happen, one would need to speak to a Mahapurush.

K.

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The point of this post is that i guess sum experiences are blessing of our past bhagti becuz i dont think my frend at the age of 10 was doing intense meditation on this chakra but she did have immense pyar for Guru ji, when she was younger she had good and bad experiences of seeing things,,

she has seen good spirits in dreams or half awake such as shaheed singhs and She had a dream that she saw Guru Gobind singh ji sitting on a beautiful Throne,her younger brother had dreams of Sant Jarnail Singh ji,

But on the dark side, she has seen dark beings and wierd experience like feeling she cant move as sumthings on top of her, :ph34r:

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what happens when a chakra opens when ones not ready?

like for example in EGO You show off your intuition and by doing so loose it?

I was thinking about the same thing.....the ego boost.....so I will not post my experience. Do you mind if I PM you about it?

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Just a theory.

Maybe it hurts cuz your focus too much on the third eye point and not on the simran your doing. Just relax, let the simran do all the work and just stay focused on the simran. Focusing on the thrid eye point becomes natural and no pain.

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Just a theory.

Maybe it hurts cuz your focus too much on the third eye point and not on the simran your doing. Just relax, let the simran do all the work and just stay focused on the simran. Focusing on the thrid eye point becomes natural and no pain.

It's not a theory.....

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Just a theory.

Maybe it hurts cuz your focus too much on the third eye point and not on the simran your doing. Just relax, let the simran do all the work and just stay focused on the simran. Focusing on the thrid eye point becomes natural and no pain.

It's not a theory.....

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if its cus of your simran, wot ur doing rong is trying to push somthing that cant, or doesnt want to be pushed. as per a previous post, let the simran take you where it wants to take you.dont push it..

you will get further if you relax your mind and muscles in your head and just let the simran do what it wants to.. breathing normally is also key.. dont force it. go with it..

if you dont understand what im saying, it may be because your pain is not simran related in which case see a doctor bout it.

gurfateh

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Everyone who puts his/her DHYAN above eyes or at the place of Trineter or Pitutory/pineal

gland, definitely ,it causes headache like migraine and some times Hypertension also.

But we forget GUR-UPDESH while doing so becoz Gurbani tells us to concentrate on Heart

(Anantha chakra) and Mann (Manipura chakra):-

"Mere hirde basaho gopal"

and

"Kar kirpa vasaho mere hirde hoe sahaee aap"

( Hirde mean Heart )

" Mann mehe ram nama jaap"

and

" Simar mana ram naam chitare"

and

"AE mann merya tu sada raho har nale"

(Here mann means mind )

And so many such quotations can be given from Gurbani where Guru sahib guides us for

meditation/ concentration whilst doing Jaap on Heart and Mind. But when we do concentation

on the pitutary area , our behaviour becomes dry type and mixed with mild anger which is due to

hypertension and mild headache and some chemical changes.

Bhul chuk khima, wjkk wjkf

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Everyone who puts his/her DHYAN above eyes or at the place of Trineter or Pitutory/pineal

gland, definitely ,it causes headache like migraine and some times Hypertension also.

But we forget GUR-UPDESH while doing so becoz Gurbani tells us to concentrate on Heart

(Anantha chakra) and Mann (Manipura chakra):-

"Mere hirde basaho gopal"

and

"Kar kirpa vasaho mere hirde hoe sahaee aap"

( Hirde mean Heart )

" Mann mehe ram nama jaap"

and

" Simar mana ram naam chitare"

and

"AE mann merya tu sada raho har nale"

(Here mann means mind )

And so many such quotations can be given from Gurbani where Guru sahib guides us for

meditation/ concentration whilst doing Jaap on Heart and Mind. But when we do concentation

on the pitutary area , our behaviour becomes dry type and mixed with mild anger which is due to

hypertension and mild headache and some chemical changes.

Bhul chuk khima, wjkk wjkf

my brother, gurfateh

we are told to jup naam WITH our hirda, through concentration. when we concentrate, then we can (or try to) vas guru in our hearts. we are not to concentrate on heart "chakra" or any thing.. we must concentrate on god.

concentrating on god through our surti, will get us closer to him and vas god more in our own hirda.

chakra concentrating is a waste of time. y? cus it is, 'of the body'. god never dies and is infinite in nature. we must use what ever tools we can to help get to god, be that breath, surti, jaap, raag, taal, seva, saangat, keertan, everything. its all a tool that we are permitted to use by guru, to get to god.this is how >vada sahib guru milaaya< happens.

so through concentration, (obviously in our minds) we vas god into our hirda, and blam! we have sadha anand!

so lets start our engines through the ongoing ardaas!

dhan guru dhan guru!!!

gurfateh

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ਏਕ ਚਿੱਤ ਜਿਹ ਇਕ ਛਿਨ ਧਿਆਇਓ ॥

Ek chitt jih ik chin dhiaaio||

He Who meditates upon Him with single mind even for an instant;

ਕਾਲ ਫਾਸ ਕੇ ਬੀਚ ਨ ਆਇਓ ॥੧੦॥

Kaal phaas ke boodhe na aaio||10||

He doth not come within the trap of death. 10.

(Akaal Ustat by Guru Gobind Singh ji )

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

The highest form of meditation is of Nirguna, but not everyone can do that without much effort. That is why Mahapurush will sometimes give premis a practice that involves naam simran with meditation on specific chakras. The idea is that it is easier to associate naam simran with something tangible (like one's breathing). This is as an aid to concentration, a tool and nothing more, because as someone has said previously on this thread, the chakras are impermanent.

K.

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could you describe what simran on nirgun is/what it's like?

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

The highest form of meditation is of Nirguna, but not everyone can do that without much effort. That is why Mahapurush will sometimes give premis a practice that involves naam simran with meditation on specific chakras. The idea is that it is easier to associate naam simran with something tangible (like one's breathing). This is as an aid to concentration, a tool and nothing more, because as someone has said previously on this thread, the chakras are impermanent.

K.

Singh Ji,

I dont think we can refer to the swas as tangible. When the Swas come into contact with the paras kala of naam as destined it becomes part of the nirguna that is the all pervading illuminating light, but this invisible light can only be revealed by the Great Guru. The swas is immortal it has gone through numerous cages ( physical bodies) so I dont think we can refer to it as tangible because anything that is tangible eventually dies.

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could you describe what simran on nirgun is/what it's like?

No. Only people who have attained this state can attempt to describe it (and I certainly have not), but it's by its nature indescribable because it is meditation on the Formless which occurs of its own accord after the mind has become one with shabad and one attains sun samadhi.

There's a nice description of the stages of Simran here:

http://amritnaam.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/24/

Regards,

K.

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its usually an itch on ur forehead when dasamdwar opens, sounds like puberty headaches the pituarity gland releases hormones that make you grow, or could be symptoms of a brain tumour, go see a doctor.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAH BRAIN TUMOR!!!! :ph34r:

or it could be cancer becuz everything causes CancER these days :o

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and when i thought there was an Anth(End) to my stupidity :lol:

Jathedar ji tusi doctor banjou meray vargay unparr bibiya nu sakhao- babeya dey picshay na lugghaya karo--ahem back to babbu mann song becuz ever post on SS now has to do sumthing with him :p

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