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guru piyari sadh sangat jee, i was shocked today to see Jagtar Singh Jachak on Sikh channel this morning doing khata. Ive read his articles on the internet and i know the bakwash that he believes in along with the rest of the Kala afghana jatha. I missed the first 10 mins but the part i did listen to he was trying to directly and indirectly confuse the sangat. Sikh channel may not be aware of this individual, however we pay and support sikh channel, therefore im writing this message to make Sikhs aware of the parchar which Jachak does and to send complaints to Sikh channel so this individual is never given a stage on Sikh channel again.

He started of by saying that we can only Sing kirtan from Guru granth sahib maharaj. Bhai Gurdas jee bani can only be used for examples but cannot be sung (as kirtan). No other granth is allowed to be sung (like dasam granth jee)only guru granth sahib jee. He said Guru hai bani is only Guru granth sahib je maharaj (in other words dasam granth is not the gurus bani). This is a serious attack on the Sikh rehit maryada. We are allowed to sing from not only the guru granth sahib jee but also bhai gurdas jees bani/kabitt swayyai, bhai Nand laal jee and Guru Gobind Singh jees bani. Jackak then resorted to lies to confuse the sangat by saying that its maryada to only sing from guru granth sahib jee and not to sing bhai gurdas jee vara. which maryada is this written in?

Jacak said its pakhand and attempt to mislead sikhs by calling waheguru naam a waste of time. He claims all gurbani is naam. He also attacked the youth in UK, Europe, US and Canada for having naam simran programmes where only waheguru jaap is being done. Jachak claims that doing gurbani veechar is naam and simran, but gurbani says, kathanee kahai bharam na jayai. Khata is important but he is claiming that khata/veechara is naam and remembering god.

To prove that doing veechar is naam, he tried to say doing kirtan is not that important. Jachak claims that during guru jees times there was only 2 kirtani who are well known, therefore the sangats did not do kirtan that often and in fact khata was done which is naam simran.

Jachak at the end of his khata directly attacked the dasam granth saying that we cant use parmaan from other so called granths which talk about vedant. He said we can only use parmaan from guru jees bani with is only Guru granth sahib jee maharaj.

Jackak directly attacked reincarnation. Jachak claimed that granths outside of guru granth sahib are misleading sikhs that there are chourasi lakh jooon. He claims there is no joon.

There were other things which jachak said that i cant remember at the moment, his whole khata was attacking the sikh maryada and beliefs.

If anyone heard his khata please email Sikh channel and try to get these individuals banned from Sikh channel. A simple search online and you will see the parchar jagtar singh jhacak does. He is a well known Kala Afghana supporter and resorts to lies to prove his beliefs. Please email Sikh channel because these dusht are being given an opportunity to spead their nindya all over the world.

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Jachak is on Sikh channel again today at 9am doing khata. He continues to spread his lies.

Today he claimed there is no need for jap, tap even though gurbani says jap tap sanjam dharam nahee kamayai. Jachak is telling the sangats not to do naaam and you will not reach sachkhand by doing naaam. But gurbani says jihnee naam dhaiyaa, gai mashakat kaal, nanak teh mukh ojlai, keetee chottee naal.

He also makes fun of doing Akhand paaths.

Jachak says there is no point in doing dhaan and pun. People are just putting fear in us to do dhan and pun. Aphi beej aphee kaoo (jap jee sahib).How can you tell the sangat there is no good in doing good? These people continue to twist bani.

Jachak was twisting history on Baba Sri Chand by making disgraceful remarkes. He also claimed baba Gurditta was never apart of the udasi samparda.

Jachak and all his Afghana supporters should be banned from Sikh channel. Please email Sikh channel because ive got no response from them and they continue to put kala afghana supporters khata on tv. We have not set up direct debits for nastak people like jachak to come and do khata.

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I too heard his katha and thought that his vichar at times appeared to be dodgy, from mocking Waheguru mantar simran programs and saying that that they are not divans to only Gurbani from Guru Granth Sahib Jee can be sung on the stage as keertan and parmans from select Sikh granth to be used only in katha. He also made digs Mahapursh that sing dharna by calling kachi bani.

I too urge others to complain to Sikh Channel to not allow such anti panthic people opportunities to do anti-Gurmat parchaar on the Sikh Channel.

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I have also seen many programmes on the sikh channel that are nothing to do with sikhs these programmes are made by hindus and it looks like the sikh channel is doing some good it is also doing bad by taking money from anyone just to do these kinds of programmes. please dont go for money all the time follow the guru's way please.

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Although this guy is clearly an afghani and confused person, esp his saying only Aad guru Bani can be sung (strange when Guru has given kirtan instructions in Sri Dasam Guru and Sri Sarbloh Guru Darbar).

we should not throw the baby out with the bath water - naam is all encompassing it has several meanings in Gurbani - depending on which context is has been used - it doesn't 'only' refer to Gurmantar Jaap. Ultimtely naam is a state of being - when one learns to listen (as per Jap Ji Sahib) - correct kathaa will do nothing but drown that being in naam ras... so lets not get over excited.. with all due respect.

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Khaalis the very next day on Monday Jachak came on tv again, He said there is no need for jap, tap even though gurbani says jap tap sanjam dharam nahee kamayai. Jachak is telling the sangats not to do naaam and you will not reach sachkhand by doing naaam. But gurbani says jihnee naam dhaiyaa, gai mashakat kaal, nanak teh mukh ojlai, keetee chottee naal. If this is not a serious matter then what is? Jachak has put his artilces on Sikh marg.com, read the articles which jachak and others have put on this website and you will see why im getting over excited. Its not Sikh channels fault for putting the khata on tv, the Delhi committee should no better. But Sarna has made Delhi the dera of nastiks with the like of Darshan Singh doing kirtan there. However if we send our complaints then Sikh channel will stop putting nasitik like jachak on tv.

Khaalis im sure you give maahnta to Waheguru jaap. Whether you look at Taksali, nihang, Akal takhat or any other rehit, Waheguru da jaap is important. But JAchak and co say there is no such thing as waheguru jee, they call people who do waheguru jaap as pakhandi.It not a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water as you say, jachak and co are trying to destroy every ang of Gurmat

On Monday Jachak also makes fun of doing Akhand paaths, he said there is no point in doing it.

Jachak says there is no point in doing dhaan and pun. People are just putting fear in us to do dhan and pun. Aphi beej aphee kaoo (jap jee sahib).How can you tell the sangat there is no good in doing good? These people continue to twist bani.

Jachak was twisting history on Baba Sri Chand by making disgraceful remarkes. He also claimed baba Gurditta was never apart of the udasi samparda.

Jachak also said every sikh should do paaath from ikhoonkar to mundavni tera keeta jato nahi. Indirectly he was attacking raag mala.

Jachak is a very clever parchark, he speaks very sweetly and in a calm manner, however he is a nastikh. He says there is no sachkhand, no naam/jaap/taap in Sikhi, they call people who do waheguru jaap as pakhandi, no reincarnation, no amrit vela, no dasam granth, They make fun of Kirtan (ive spoken to these nastik on this, they say khata should be given more of a prominant role in harmander sahib rather than kirtan)no sarbloh granth, Amrit has no shakti, no such things as sants .... and the list can go on.

Im not against Sikh channel, i have set up a direct debit. However, where nastik people like jachak are being given a stage to do khata, we should complain. But the Sikh channel should also be congratulated for bringing khata of sants and great vidvaans such as bhai Pinderpal Singh, giani Sant Singh maskin, Sant Hari Singh Randhava wali, Sant Harkovalwali.

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we should not throw the baby out with the bath water - naam is all encompassing it has several meanings in Gurbani - depending on which context is has been used - it doesn't 'only' refer to Gurmantar Jaap. Ultimtely naam is a state of being - when one learns to listen (as per Jap Ji Sahib) - correct kathaa will do nothing but drown that being in naam ras.

i totally agree

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Papi jee, if you read more into the afghana ideology you will see that all gurbani is naam and therefore waheguru jaap is made up. They are against not only waheguru but also jaap. To say all gurbani is filled with naam does not mean we are not to do waheguru jaap. If thats the case then why are we told to do waheguru jaap by the panj piyari? No body is disrespecting gurbani, but members of afghana jhata are trying to say all gurbani is naam and therefore Waheguru jaap is nonesense. Whether you believe that waheguru is naam and other names are vasheshan of that naam, or that all is naam is irrelvant, these people are simply trying to stop people from doing jaap. Whether is be Gurmantar, Mool mantar or gurbani. Its karam khand according to Afghana and co.

If you read books by afhgana or his cheli or even people before them such as principle Harbajhan singh (Vashesh Gurmat lekh) you will see that they are against gurmantar because they believe there is no such thing as mantar. They also claim mool mantar is made up and no such things exist. Principle Harbajhan Singhs book is evidence of this. People like Jachak, Ghagga, Gurbachan Singh worship Afghana and Principle Harbajhan Singh.

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