Sikh Channel - Biggest Fraud Going!

[Matheen]

To be fair to him, he doesn't appear on any of the shows so we can't say he's representing the community. Rather than try to damage the Sikh Channel, we should work to improve it or put our money where our mouths are and open an alternative channel.

[BiggChan]

We havent got any other visual media outlets apart from the Sikh Channel at present whereas the Indian sponsored channels actively support and give airtime to anti-Sikh parcharaks such as darshan das on aastha (the same channel that broadcast jhoota sauda in india) and narakhdharis on sunrise channel (the group responsible for death of bhai fauja singh and other sikhs in 1978). Yet our community seems to tolerate these channels but slate the channel which supports Sikhi and not the views of its owner. Furthermore the judgement relates to a different business and not the channel itself.

Agreed the quality of Sikh Channel programmes isn't exactly brilliant but the content largely is. Until the channel becomes more established and can pay at market rates, i doubt programming professionals will be sending their CVs in. Also non-sikh programming professionals are unlikely to join a channel on a religion they know nothing or little about.

Maybe those on the fence could give the channel a chance, and those who dont like the channel or the owner, switch over to something else.

[AK47 JATHA LION]

If I see the word Bandwith one more time i'm gonna crack up.

Do any of you mentioning it even know what Bandwith means? lol.

If Sikh Channel announces it is going to stop broadcasting tomorrow, you will regret slating it.

I dont think we fully understand the costs involved in running a channel. Its alot more than just the offcom costs.

On the other side, I think Sikh Channel can practice a little more TRANSPARENCY with a break-down of exactly where the sangats money will be spent/appropriated.

This will serve to clear up any Doubts people have (and as i can see theres alot of doubts).

Lets ask Sikh Channel to do that, instead of calling them frauds.

Listing Mr Bal's many Assets does not neccessarily mean he is stealing sangats money.

We as Sikhs need to Google broadcasting costs a little less, and focus more on supporting the only Sikh Channel.

Muslims have channels, Christians have countless channels, hindus have channels. Sikhs have only this one.

[SikhRoots]

I hear people saying "oh it doesnt matter what the owner of the channel is like, as long as we have a Sikh Channel..."

I ask those people this: "ARE YOU LISTENING TO YOURSELVES?!"

Seriously, is this what Sikhi is teaching us? Are we that materialistic?! Would Sarbans Dhaani Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee instruct his Sikhs to support a cause or such an organisation, no matter how big, if its core owner and admin was this corrupt? If we had such a true leader in this day and age, would they teach us to support this guy and his work?

Look, everyone knows that the owner of the channel has been linked to such crimes, but one would have hoped that after starting a Sikh Channel that he would have stopped. Are we really this desperate for such a "Sikh Channel" that we continue to support fraudsters?

If the panth wants a Sikh Channel, then Sikhs should get together and start a Sikh Channel together which belongs to the panth and funds the panth - not an individual.

[Southall Youth]

Sky has stopped handing out any more EPG slots / channels as they are now full in the set up that sky has linking satellites,shame on all of you slandering the channel.This guy didn't have to open the Sikh Chnl. but he did so credit should be given where due,don't see the spgc doing a Sikh Chnl or any other Sikh group,but it has been left to the average sangat or members of the mainstream Sikhs do to do.There will NOT be another Sikh Chnl to make a rival as Sky can't give anymore slots and besides how many will fund another channel - not many as we have seen how useless we are as a community.

A few chnls ahead from Sikh Chnl.there is a channel called up & comming tv this is where channels who are waiting for a slot broadcast 1/2 hours of their preview programmes and almost every preview of a new channel is a muslim channel who are waiting for one channel or another to go bankcrupt so Sky can give the old slot to them,so all in all we can't let Sikh Chnl loose its place/slot on Sky as it will be taken over by another muslim channel.

Rather than slander the channel support it,Mr Bal's personal life has nothing to do with the Channel and nor does he claim to be a Sikh leader,Harjap Bhangal has just posted it as hes a solicitor himself - prbably a rival

[Amrit79]

riot in front of mr. bals rooms

[SikhRoots]

Difference between slander and truth Southall Youth. Slander refers to false allegations, rumours so forth. I think whatever has been highlighted by Harjap, with whatever intention, is valid and has been proved in a court of law. So lets not pass that off as slander.

And you are wrong... SKY EPG numbers are still available. They are not allowing any SD (Standard Definition) EPG's but are accepting and distributing HD EPG's. IN addition, past channels that have gone off air are allowed to auction and sell on their EPG numbers and theyre are a few doing the rounds. Owners of RAJ TV were once auctioning off their EPG numbers. So another Sikh Channel is not off the cards, by no means. Who knows, we may even have a HD Sikh Channel and looking in the near future, a 3D Sikh Channel.

Current holders of EPG numbers can sell them as well and they normally do so after they get good exposure on Sky... think about it.

[Southall Youth]

Ok case may have been proven but the guy aint 'evil' is he and if a new Sikh Chnl comes about look what Sikh Chnl wen through 700,000 Sikhs couldn't even support it.I say we stick with this channel and make it stronger it has bought bani in to peoples houses who would have never listened to bani,even sharabis down my road have turned a new leaf

[lsingh]

We havent got any other visual media outlets apart from the Sikh Channel at present whereas the Indian sponsored channels actively support and give airtime to anti-Sikh parcharaks such as darshan das on aastha (the same channel that broadcast jhoota sauda in india) and narakhdharis on sunrise channel (the group responsible for death of bhai fauja singh and other sikhs in 1978). Yet our community seems to tolerate these channels but slate the channel which supports Sikhi and not the views of its owner. Furthermore the judgement relates to a different business and not the channel itself.

Agreed the quality of Sikh Channel programmes isn't exactly brilliant but the content largely is. Until the channel becomes more established and can pay at market rates, i doubt programming professionals will be sending their CVs in. Also non-sikh programming professionals are unlikely to join a channel on a religion they know nothing or little about.

Maybe those on the fence could give the channel a chance, and those who dont like the channel or the owner, switch over to something else.

Yes there are many non Sikhs that daily slander the Sikhs but nobody questions them. While the Sikh Channel and Punjab Radio are attacked daily on this site, the Indian Channels allow KPS Gill , many of the Indian Politicians that have murdered Sikhs on are not even mentioned. Do we find it better to attack our fellow Sikhs but are terrified of our external enemies?

[Matheen]

lsingh - Punjab Radio is a waste of space. The quicker it gets shut down, the better. The Sikh Channel is a different story and deserves our support - simply because it's the only one we have, and at least they aren't a tool for kala afghana propaganda. It's better that our people at home watch Sikh Channel rather than the Christian / Islamic Punjabi channels, or Zee tv etc.

Anyway, this topic has run its course.