Quick Question On The Panj Pyare

[jii]

why did Guru Gobind only choose 5 panj pyare, why not 6 or 4, is there a reason behind why he chose 5?

[TejiKaur]

cause only 5 stood up

[Tera]

cause only 5 stood up

To say Guru Ji stopped at 5 cause only 5 stood up is completely wrong and makes it 'accidental'.

Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj knew everything and chose 5 for a reason. Here's something I grabbed from SikhWiki which may explain the reason.

In Sikh theology, as in the Indian classical tradition generally, panj or panch, the numeral five, has a special significance. Guru Nanak in Japji refers to five khands, i.e. stages or steps in spiritual development, and calls a spiritually awakened person a panch. The ancient Indian socio-political institution panchayat meant a council of five elders. Something like an inner council of five existed even in the time of the earlier Gurus: five Sikhs accompanied Guru Arjan on his last journey to Lahore; the five were each given 100 armed Sikhs to command by his successor, Guru Hargobind; Guru Tegh Bahadur, set out on his journey to Delhi to court execution attended by five Sikhs.

[Guroo Guroo Jaap]

5 is the magic number!!

5 Banis

5 Pyare

5 Kakkar

5 Evils

5 "Khalsa Wear"

5 Ishnaan

And so on!

Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Sahib Mahraj!

[guptveer1469]

5 is the magic number!!

5 Banis

5 Pyare

5 Kakkar

5 Evils

5 "Khalsa Wear"

5 Ishnaan

And so on!

Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Sahib Mahraj!

5 Takhts

[khalistan_zindabaad]

Thats satguru jees hukam and there will.

Panch parvaan, panch pardaan.

Bestowing of Guruship on Khalsa Panth

Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Jee when revealing the Khalsa stated that there was no difference between him and the Khalsa and that wherever 5 Singhs resided, there the Guru resided and was present. This promise of the Khalsa being the Guru was exemplified at the Amrit Ceremony of 1699 AD and was later again exemplified at Chamkaur Sahib in 1704 AD. After listening to the supplications of the Khalsa, Guru Jee escaped from Chamkaur Sahib, Guru Jee bestowed his Kalgi (Crest for Turban, signifying Temporal authority) and authority upon the 5 Singh's who made this supplication to the Guru. The names of these 5 Singh's are:

1) Piare Bhai Daya Singh Jee

2) Piare Bhai Dharam Singh Jee

3) Bhai Maan Singh Jee

4) Bhai Sangat Singh Jee

5) Bhai Sant Singh Jee (He was bestowed with Kalgi of Maharaj)

This was the first time in Sikh History outside of the Amrit Ceremony that 5 Singh's had the authority of the Guru and were blessed by the Guru of this authority.

Piare Bhai Daya Singh Jee (1668-1708 AD) Ascension to Sachkhand at Hazur Sahib

Piare Bhai Dharam Singh Jee (1670-1711 AD) Ascension to Sachkhand at Hazur Sahib

Piare Bhai Himmat Singh Jee (1664-1704 AD) Shaheedi at Chamkaur Sahib

Piare Bhai Mohkam Singh Jee (1679-1704 AD) Shaheedi at Chamkaur Sahib

Piare Bhai Sahib Singh Jee (1673-1704 AD) Shaheedi at Chamkaur Sahib

1) Piare Bhai Daya Singh Jee, (Daya = Compassion)

Father: Meye Ram Jee Mother: Sobha Dey Jee Birth: 1688AD in Lahore, on Fagan Sakrant, Amrit Vela, Sunday Joti Jot: 1708AD at Sri Hazur Sahib (At the age of 13 years he came to reside with Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Jee)

2) Piare Bhai Dharam Singh Jee, (Dharam = Principles)

Father: Param Sukh Jee Mother: Ananti Jee 1607AD in Delhi Joti Jot: 1711AD at Sri Hazur Sahib (At the age of 25 years he came to reside with Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Jee)

3) Piare Bhai Himmat Singh Jee, (Himmat = Courage)

Father: Maal Deo Jee Mother: Lal Deyee Jee Birth: 1664AD at Baba Bakala Martyred: 1704AD at Chamkaur Sahib (His family resided at Baba Bakala with Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Jee)

4) Piare Bhai Mohkam Singh Jee, (Mohkam = Steadfast)

Father: Jagjeevan Rai Jee Mother: Sanbhali Jee Birth: 1679AD at Dvarka Martyred: 1704AD at Chamkaur Sahib (At the age of 15 years along with his parents he came to reside with Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Jee)

5) Piare Bhai Sahib Singh Jee, (Sahib = Master)

Father: Gur Narain Jee Mother: Ankhanpa Jee Birth: 1675AD at Bidarpur Martyred: 1704AD at Chamkaur Sahib (His Parents brought him to reside with Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Jee at the age of 11 years)

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[TejiKaur]

5 is the magic number!!

5 Banis

5 Pyare

5 Kakkar

5 Evils

5 "Khalsa Wear"

5 Ishnaan

And so on!

Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Sahib Mahraj!

5 Takhts

but there are 11 gurus 40 mukhte and countless names of God i mean im not saying its an accident but come on calling 5 a majic number

thats taking it too far

[Charandhoor Singh]

From a socio-political perspective you have the panchayat (panch =5) system where authority was held by 5 elders, this was and still is common practise in Punjab, every village still has a panchayt.

From a spiritual perspective you as KZ is mentioned 5 is seen as a very significant number:

"Panch Parvan Panch Pardhan Pance Pavai Dareh Maan"

"Panch Sukhee Mil Mangal Gaye Anhat Bani Naad Vujaeea"

I wouldnt include panj takht in the analysis as Sri Damdama Sahib was only recently declared a takht.

Might also have to do with the panj bania that form our nitnem, one piara reads each bani.

The panj pyarai names also represent values that Maharaj wanted his Khalsa to have, some people say in turn the values are the direct opposite of the panj chor.

As TejiKaur penji said 5 does seem to be a magical number.

[ParwinderSingh]

There 5 are main qualities which we need to become a Khalsa or work towards...

Each of the 5 piyare represent the 5 qualities which happen to be in their names.....

God knows the reasons, we dont need to ponder over why there was only 5.......

[Jagmeet]

5 is the magic number!!

5 Banis

5 Pyare

5 Kakkar

5 Evils

5 "Khalsa Wear"

5 Ishnaan

And so on!

Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Sahib Mahraj!

5 Takhts

but there are 11 gurus 40 mukhte and countless names of God i mean im not saying its an accident but come on calling 5 a majic number

thats taking it too far

I don't think he/she meant it literally! Any way there's a song called the magic number, lol. Could be taken in that context.