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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

By mainstream you mean popular, what is popular isn’t always what is right and what is true. Ultimately it is better to attempt full heartedly genuinely something and fail and understand that awareness in failure is a strength to success. Rather than the pretence, grind and repetition of falsehood practice. Fundamentally the former may utter just one “Vaheguru” and be free from this mentality whilst the latter continues on the rodent wheel of life, amusingly obvious sadly unproductive. Truth is what you want in its most beautiful ugly form.

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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

In order to understand this contention between these two schools of thought we must first understand what constitutes 'mainstream Sikhism' and the fact is that the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa is the purataan maryada established by Guru Gobind Singh and practised in fullness through the Misal period and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's reign and which continues to flourish unpolluted in the present day in Dal Panth.

This is the original unblemished Khalsa Sikhism. What you have termed mainstream Sikhism has it's genesis in the Neo-Sikh movement which began with the malech-influenced Teja Singh Bhasauria Panch Khalsa Diwan in the late 1800's before being fully established with the SGPC'S inauguration in 1922. Thus it is the SGPC'S British-influenced rehit which has supplanted the original purataan maryada as being 'mainstream Sikhsim' as they sought to create a more modern version of rehit thereby purging whatever elements pained their Victorian/Christian consciences, they were puritans, zealots and revisionists as well as traitors and they have inaugurated their false maryada as the real because Nihangs Singhs have no interest in writing historical monographs and such.

And so quite to the contrary to what you so innocently stated, it is the mainstream Sikhs who have made up their own maryada and the Nihangs who possess the original guru-ordained maryada. Only this fact has escaped the biased revisionist historians of the second and false Singh Sabha.

The souce of the contention you have outlined above stems from the fact that Nihang Singhs do not recognize the authority of the British-nurtured SGPC or their minions and so recognize only the temporal authority of the Panth Jathedar which is a guru-ordained institution.

The bones of contention that many mainstream Sikhs have with the true maryada (sukhnidhan, chatka) are really inconsequential when we consider the fact that Nihang maryada only recognizes these things as traditions proscribed for those interested in practising them, they are guru-ordained traditions that must be respected though nobody is coerced into carrying them out. It is up to the individual Nihang if he wants to practise these things and many do not, indeed there have been many brahmgyani Nihangs who have abstained from these practises even though in the Guru and Misal periods they were commonplace.

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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

In order to understand this contention between these two schools of thought we must first understand what constitutes 'mainstream Sikhism' and the fact is that the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa is the purataan maryada established by Guru Gobind Singh and practised in fullness through the Misal period and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's reign and which continues to flourish unpolluted in the present day in Dal Panth.

This is the original unblemished Khalsa Sikhism. What you have termed mainstream Sikhism has it's genesis in the Neo-Sikh movement which began with the malech-influenced Teja Singh Bhasauria Panch Khalsa Diwan in the late 1800's before being fully established with the SGPC'S inauguration in 1922. Thus it is the SGPC'S British-influenced rehit which has supplanted the original purataan maryada as being 'mainstream Sikhsim' as they sought to create a more modern version of rehit thereby purging whatever elements pained their Victorian/Christian consciences, they were puritans, zealots and revisionists as well as traitors and they have inaugurated their false maryada as the real because Nihangs Singhs have no interest in writing historical monographs and such.

And so quite to the contrary to what you so innocently stated, it is the mainstream Sikhs who have made up their own maryada and the Nihangs who possess the original guru-ordained maryada. Only this fact has escaped the biased revisionist historians of the second and false Singh Sabha.

The souce of the contention you have outlined above stems from the fact that Nihang Singhs do not recognize the authority of the British-nurtured SGPC or their minions and so recognize only the temporal authority of the Panth Jathedar which is a guru-ordained institution.

The bones of contention that many mainstream Sikhs have with the true maryada (sukhnidhan, chatka) are really inconsequential when we consider the fact that Nihang maryada only recognizes these things as traditions proscribed for those interested in practising them, they are guru-ordained traditions that must be respected though nobody is coerced into carrying them out. It is up to the individual Nihang if he wants to practise these things and many do not, indeed there have been many brahmgyani Nihangs who have abstained from these practises even though in the Guru and Misal periods they were commonplace.

Thanks for this post. Does Budha Dal recognize the supremacy of Sri Akal Takht. They got problem with SGPC, but do Nihangs respect the hukamnamas of Sri Akal Takht ???

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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

In order to understand this contention between these two schools of thought we must first understand what constitutes 'mainstream Sikhism' and the fact is that the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa is the purataan maryada established by Guru Gobind Singh and practised in fullness through the Misal period and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's reign and which continues to flourish unpolluted in the present day in Dal Panth.

This is the original unblemished Khalsa Sikhism. What you have termed mainstream Sikhism has it's genesis in the Neo-Sikh movement which began with the malech-influenced Teja Singh Bhasauria Panch Khalsa Diwan in the late 1800's before being fully established with the SGPC'S inauguration in 1922. Thus it is the SGPC'S British-influenced rehit which has supplanted the original purataan maryada as being 'mainstream Sikhsim' as they sought to create a more modern version of rehit thereby purging whatever elements pained their Victorian/Christian consciences, they were puritans, zealots and revisionists as well as traitors and they have inaugurated their false maryada as the real because Nihangs Singhs have no interest in writing historical monographs and such.

And so quite to the contrary to what you so innocently stated, it is the mainstream Sikhs who have made up their own maryada and the Nihangs who possess the original guru-ordained maryada. Only this fact has escaped the biased revisionist historians of the second and false Singh Sabha.

The souce of the contention you have outlined above stems from the fact that Nihang Singhs do not recognize the authority of the British-nurtured SGPC or their minions and so recognize only the temporal authority of the Panth Jathedar which is a guru-ordained institution.

The bones of contention that many mainstream Sikhs have with the true maryada (sukhnidhan, chatka) are really inconsequential when we consider the fact that Nihang maryada only recognizes these things as traditions proscribed for those interested in practising them, they are guru-ordained traditions that must be respected though nobody is coerced into carrying them out. It is up to the individual Nihang if he wants to practise these things and many do not, indeed there have been many brahmgyani Nihangs who have abstained from these practises even though in the Guru and Misal periods they were commonplace.

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47. After heeding the call of nature bathe five times

Veer Ji, I think this Rehat means to do panj ishnaan (i.e. hands (2), feet(2), and face(1)) after heeding the call of nature, not that you actually have to take 5 showers or baths :lol: Just thought I'd clear that one up to avoid any confusion, please do correct me if I'm wrong.

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Just another thing id like to point out lol. I started translating this Rehat with my mum lol and i coul;dnt find it on the english version on here, but it says that when doing Rehraas you must also do Aarti aswell :)

Its mentioned in point no. 9

"Shami - Sodar Rehraas --Aarti Aarta parhe ja suney. Saaun samey kirtan sohila da path kar ardas kar bisraam karey"

Aarti is a collection of beautiful shabads and one shud try to sing arti daily.

I dont know much about artaa. May be some nihung veer can tell about arta. I guess it must be contaning Dasam Bani.

http://www.laadliafauja.com/mp3s/Programme...nd%20Sangat.mp3

thanks to freed paji i have got this

Vaheguroooo! Does anyone have the translation of the above?

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dont think soooooo

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Khalsa Ji, Does any1 know where to find a copy of the Nihang Rehat? Preferebly in english! Or if not, does anyone know anythin bout the Rehat? Thanx!

go to Amritsar, and then to Bhai Chatter Singh Jeevan Singh's bookshop near Harmandir Sahib. Ask for either a 'Tarana Daal' Gutka or a 'Buddha Dal' Gutka and it should have a 'Nihang' Rehat in the front.

sorry, don't think it's in english though

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Khalsa Ji, Does any1 know where to find a copy of the Nihang Rehat? Preferebly in english! Or if not, does anyone know anythin bout the Rehat? Thanx!

go to Amritsar, and then to Bhai Chatter Singh Jeevan Singh's bookshop near Harmandir Sahib. Ask for either a 'Tarana Daal' Gutka or a 'Buddha Dal' Gutka and it should have a 'Nihang' Rehat in the front.

sorry, don't think it's in english though

You can get a Buddha Dal Gutka Sahib from Jasons on Soho Rd, it used to be 2.75 but now hes priced them at 6.99

or you can go to DTF and they will order you one for about 3 quid.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

In order to understand this contention between these two schools of thought we must first understand what constitutes 'mainstream Sikhism' and the fact is that the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa is the purataan maryada established by Guru Gobind Singh and practised in fullness through the Misal period and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's reign and which continues to flourish unpolluted in the present day in Dal Panth.

This is the original unblemished Khalsa Sikhism. What you have termed mainstream Sikhism has it's genesis in the Neo-Sikh movement which began with the malech-influenced Teja Singh Bhasauria Panch Khalsa Diwan in the late 1800's before being fully established with the SGPC'S inauguration in 1922. Thus it is the SGPC'S British-influenced rehit which has supplanted the original purataan maryada as being 'mainstream Sikhsim' as they sought to create a more modern version of rehit thereby purging whatever elements pained their Victorian/Christian consciences, they were puritans, zealots and revisionists as well as traitors and they have inaugurated their false maryada as the real because Nihangs Singhs have no interest in writing historical monographs and such.

And so quite to the contrary to what you so innocently stated, it is the mainstream Sikhs who have made up their own maryada and the Nihangs who possess the original guru-ordained maryada. Only this fact has escaped the biased revisionist historians of the second and false Singh Sabha.

The souce of the contention you have outlined above stems from the fact that Nihang Singhs do not recognize the authority of the British-nurtured SGPC or their minions and so recognize only the temporal authority of the Panth Jathedar which is a guru-ordained institution.

The bones of contention that many mainstream Sikhs have with the true maryada (sukhnidhan, chatka) are really inconsequential when we consider the fact that Nihang maryada only recognizes these things as traditions proscribed for those interested in practising them, they are guru-ordained traditions that must be respected though nobody is coerced into carrying them out. It is up to the individual Nihang if he wants to practise these things and many do not, indeed there have been many brahmgyani Nihangs who have abstained from these practises even though in the Guru and Misal periods they were commonplace.

Thanks for this post. Does Budha Dal recognize the supremacy of Sri Akal Takht. They got problem with SGPC, but do Nihangs respect the hukamnamas of Sri Akal Takht ???

This is a very good question so the answer will naturally be complex, historically the Jathedar of Akal Takhat since it's inception as a Sikh institution has ONLY ever been the Jathedar of Buddha Dal, thus the two positions have always been seen as one seat of guru-ordained temporal authority for the whole Sikh nation militaristically, politically and religiously and thus if you go back to the history books you will see that Baba Darbara Singh and Akali Phula Singh etc, were Jathedars of both Buddha Dal and Akal Takht.

In the 1920's, Baba Sahib Singh Kaladhari was Jathedar of both the Akal Takht and Buddha Dal, but the British conspired to oust him forcibly from his post because of his and the Akali Nihang's vehement anti-British sentiment, and because the British knew that if they controlled this shrine through some servile Sikh puppets that they could then ideologically control the Sikh nation and unfortunately this is what has happened. A British backed S.G.P.C force forcibly entered Akal Takht and assaulted the 80 year old Jathedar breaking his arm, 'Master' Tara Singh then through the Dasam Granth on the floor and the SGPC took over the shrine and have held it until the present day.

Now as the SGPC were traitors to the Khalsa Panth their authority has never been recognized by Nihang Singhs, and by our traditions we still consider the Buddha Dal Jathedar to also be the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht because in the guru's eyes he rightfully is.

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No it doesn't - 5 kakakrs were given by Guru Sahib, we can't add our own.

I agree with Matheen. Kesh is the kakaaar and NOT keski. A bibi can be given gurmantar if she is willing to cover her head with a chunni ALL THE TIME.

But if a bibi wants to get Naam drirsh, SHE HAS TO WEAR A KESKI.

Khalsa AKAL PURAKH ke FAUJ.

No it doesn't - 5 kakakrs were given by Guru Sahib, we can't add our own.

I agree with Matheen. Kesh is the kakaaar and NOT keski. A bibi can be given gurmantar if she is willing to cover her head with a chunni ALL THE TIME.

But if a bibi wants to get Naam drirsh, SHE HAS TO WEAR A KESKI.

Khalsa AKAL PURAKH ke FAUJ.

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This nihang rehit is so good and complete. Why do the nihangs are not considered to be a part of mainstream sikhs ? People have a feeling that Nihangs have created their own maryadas and rehits and are not part of mainstream. What are the points of contradiction between mainstream sikhs and Nihangs (other than shaheedi degh) ?????

In order to understand this contention between these two schools of thought we must first understand what constitutes 'mainstream Sikhism' and the fact is that the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa is the purataan maryada established by Guru Gobind Singh and practised in fullness through the Misal period and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's reign and which continues to flourish unpolluted in the present day in Dal Panth.

This is the original unblemished Khalsa Sikhism. What you have termed mainstream Sikhism has it's genesis in the Neo-Sikh movement which began with the malech-influenced Teja Singh Bhasauria Panch Khalsa Diwan in the late 1800's before being fully established with the SGPC'S inauguration in 1922. Thus it is the SGPC'S British-influenced rehit which has supplanted the original purataan maryada as being 'mainstream Sikhsim' as they sought to create a more modern version of rehit thereby purging whatever elements pained their Victorian/Christian consciences, they were puritans, zealots and revisionists as well as traitors and they have inaugurated their false maryada as the real because Nihangs Singhs have no interest in writing historical monographs and such.

And so quite to the contrary to what you so innocently stated, it is the mainstream Sikhs who have made up their own maryada and the Nihangs who possess the original guru-ordained maryada. Only this fact has escaped the biased revisionist historians of the second and false Singh Sabha.

The souce of the contention you have outlined above stems from the fact that Nihang Singhs do not recognize the authority of the British-nurtured SGPC or their minions and so recognize only the temporal authority of the Panth Jathedar which is a guru-ordained institution.

The bones of contention that many mainstream Sikhs have with the true maryada (sukhnidhan, chatka) are really inconsequential when we consider the fact that Nihang maryada only recognizes these things as traditions proscribed for those interested in practising them, they are guru-ordained traditions that must be respected though nobody is coerced into carrying them out. It is up to the individual Nihang if he wants to practise these things and many do not, indeed there have been many brahmgyani Nihangs who have abstained from these practises even though in the Guru and Misal periods they were commonplace.

Thanks for this post. Does Budha Dal recognize the supremacy of Sri Akal Takht. They got problem with SGPC, but do Nihangs respect the hukamnamas of Sri Akal Takht ???

This is a very good question so the answer will naturally be complex, historically the Jathedar of Akal Takhat since it's inception as a Sikh institution has ONLY ever been the Jathedar of Buddha Dal, thus the two positions have always been seen as one seat of guru-ordained temporal authority for the whole Sikh nation militaristically, politically and religiously and thus if you go back to the history books you will see that Baba Darbara Singh and Akali Phula Singh etc, were Jathedars of both Buddha Dal and Akal Takht.

In the 1920's, Baba Sahib Singh Kaladhari was Jathedar of both the Akal Takht and Buddha Dal, but the British conspired to oust him forcibly from his post because of his and the Akali Nihang's vehement anti-British sentiment, and because the British knew that if they controlled this shrine through some servile Sikh puppets that they could then ideologically control the Sikh nation and unfortunately this is what has happened. A British backed S.G.P.C force forcibly entered Akal Takht and assaulted the 80 year old Jathedar breaking his arm, 'Master' Tara Singh then through the Dasam Granth on the floor and the SGPC took over the shrine and have held it until the present day.

Now as the SGPC were traitors to the Khalsa Panth their authority has never been recognized by Nihang Singhs, and by our traditions we still consider the Buddha Dal Jathedar to also be the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht because in the guru's eyes he rightfully is.

Baba Gurbaksh Singh Ji - 03-Baba-Gurbax-Singh-Ji.jpg

According to ' http://www.damdamitaksal.org/index.php?opt...p;Itemid=8'

Baba ji was the Jathedar of both Damdami Taksal and Sri Akal Takhat Sahib(Sikh Temporal Throne).

How is this possible if only Jathedar of Buddha Dal were Jathedar of Akal Takht also?

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In puratan days, Taksal and the Dal were one entity, Taksaal was an institution IN the Dal, so jathedaar of Taksal and the Dal were the same person. Leader of the Dal back then was also usually jathedar of Akaal Takhat sahib, they had a LOT more authority than the Dals jathedar today does.

Akaali Foola Singh is a good example we all know about, jathedaar of the Dal, and Akaal Takhat Sahib :)

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