Nihang Rehat

[1santkhalsa]

kabeer jo grihu karehi th dhharam kar naahee th kar bairaag ||

Kabeer, if you live the householder's life, then practice righteousness; otherwise, you might as well retire from the world.

bairaagee ba(n)dhhan karai thaa ko baddo abhaag ||243||

If someone renounces the world, and then gets involved in worldly entanglements, he shall suffer terrible misfortune. ||243||

[Mahakal]

All nihang Singhs and Damdami Taksal see great importance in Keski but however they do not regard it as kakkar, Kesh is kakkar, and this is apparent through any katha done by Gursikhs of these jathas. The implication by the original user that keski is indirectly a kakkar is completely unfounded and misinterpreted. Respect is given to Kesh and as such that is Kesh remain covered.

Nihang Singhs do not have to stay unmarried, in fact the many I have seen do have families and young bhuchangies with them, eg.

[xHarinder_singh]

All nihang Singhs and Damdami Taksal see great importance in Keski but however they do not regard it as kakkar, Kesh is kakkar, and this is apparent through any katha done by Gursikhs of these jathas. The implication by the original user that keski is indirectly a kakkar is completely unfounded and misinterpreted. Respect is given to Kesh and as such that is Kesh remain covered.

Nihang Singhs do not have to stay unmarried, in fact the many I have seen do have families and young bhuchangies with them, eg.

What is a kakkaar ? A kakkaar is something whose name startes with "k" and is to be kept with the body all the time. Nihung Singhs are supposed to keep a blue keski ALL THE TIME. Even while drying their hair, they are supposed to cover the head with a keski.That makes keski a kakkaar. GALL KHATAM.

[Mahakal]

If it makes you feel better then fine...

I'm not gonna get into a debate on this, I told you that both Nihangs and Damdami Taksal give great importance to Keski, however it is not a Kakkar in their eyes(Not your eyes, their eyes).

This is evident from the screen shots that Freed Bhaji has posted, if you care to take a look at point 21, which states,

"21. Panj kakaar (Kes, Kangha,Kara, Kirpan, Kachhera) eh sareer de ang samjhaney, kis vakht (ishnan karan samey ja raat saun samey) koi kakaar sareer ton vakh nahi karney."

Again I respect your views as it is your decision, but you can not speak for a whole organisation from a misinterpreted line as you did previously.

Bhul chuk maaf

[xHarinder_singh]

If it makes you feel better then fine...

I'm not gonna get into a debate on this, I told you that both Nihangs and Damdami Taksal give great importance to Keski, however it is not a Kakkar in their eyes(Not your eyes, their eyes).

This is evident from the screen shots that Freed Bhaji has posted, if you care to take a look at point 21, which states,

"21. Panj kakaar (Kes, Kangha,Kara, Kirpan, Kachhera) eh sareer de ang samjhaney, kis vakht (ishnan karan samey ja raat saun samey) koi kakaar sareer ton vakh nahi karney."

Again I respect your views as it is your decision, but you can not speak for a whole organisation from a misinterpreted line as you did previously.

Bhul chuk maaf

Man, this is really sad and tells the state of the panth. U think I am some agent who wants to delibrately misinterpretet and prove that Budha Dal belives in keski as a Kakkaar ????

I am not speaking on the behalf of the Budha Dal as I am not a part of them and nor I am trying to misinterpretet. Budha Dal people keep a blue keski in their kesh all the time, even while drying their hair.

What I wrote was that, doing this actually means treating keski as a kakaar(not that budha dal calls it a kakkaar).

This is whats written in their rehit.

26. Amritdhari Singh - Panj kakaar di rehat dharan karey, ate kurahit ton sada bachey.

a. Singh Singhani kesan naal kesgi neeli jaroor rakhey.

b. Kirpan isht jaan ke har samey pehn rakhni.

c. Singh Dastar dhari hove (Topi manmat te kurahit he)

I consider all amrithdaris my brothers, all nihungs my brothers, its a shame that these days we have started to dislike each other on the basis of jathebandis. If u took amrit from x jathebandi and u go to smagam of a y jathebandi, people suspect u to be a jassoss, hahahaha etc. What a shame that is.

[Mahakal]

Lol I never said or implied you were an agent. Chalo Rabh Rakha, I apologise if I upset or offended you

[xHarinder_singh]

Lol I never said or implied you were an agent. Chalo Rabh Rakha, I apologise if I upset or offended you

veer, i assume u are a part of some nihung jatha. This is what u wrote

"but you can not speak for a whole organisation from a misinterpreted line as you did previously."

So according to you, I was trying to speak for a whole organiszation by misinterpretating a line. Man, u just spoiled my love for nihung dals. SHAME ON U!

[1santkhalsa]

lol why not ask a nihang singh... a real nihang singh mind you

[Mahakal]

I apologised didn't I?

[xHarinder_singh]

I apologised didn't I?

man, the words that u once let out, are not easy to forget. One can forget a slap, but its tough to forget korrree bol. Words like "If it makes you feel better then fine..." and "Not your eyes, their eyes" and "but you can not speak for a whole organisation from a misinterpreted line as you did previously."

I never tried to prove that in Budha Dal rehit maryada, kesh is substitued for keski as a kakkaar. All my poor aatmaa was trying to say was that Budha Dal's rehit tells both singh/singhnis to keep keski with kesan and to even cover ur head with keski while drying hair which I feel is like treating keski as a type of kakaar.