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SSG19    5

Who cares? He was not a Sikh.

Time for Sikhs to le go of this garbage called Panjabi culture.All this filth of Heer Ranjjha, Sassi-Punnu, Sohni-Mahiwal, Bulle Shah, Waris Shah etc was spouted by muzzies. It certainly has nothing to do with Sikhi and contradicts everything that Sikh religion stands for. As for the moderns "Panjabi culture" thee less said the better- it is all about casteism, getting drunk/high or false pride disguised as "anakh". Panjabi culture is a defective, stupid and pagan culture. One of the key objectives o Sikh religion was to emancipate the masses from the falsehood of this silly pagan culture and lead them to the path of truth.

Time to make up your minds folks- who are you? Sikh or Panjabi? Anybody could be a Panjabi.Those muzzies from West Panjab and Malerkotla, those Panjabi Hindus, those cults like Ravidasis,Radha Swamis, Dera Lucha Sauda and all such zillion cults are all Panjabis. Should we embrace them as our brothers? Well I can tell you that they would more than glad to see Sikhs become extinct

Time to wake up from this illusion of "Panjabiyat " and "Panjabi brotherhood".I say, let Panjabi culture and "Panjabiyat" go to hell. Let both sides of Panjab burn and turn into wastelands. All this would could be tolerated as long as Sikhi prospers and proliferates.

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Jeona Morh was a Sidhu Sikh Jatt. The story of Jeona Morh only became popular after Dev Tharikewala wrote the Jeone Morh song for Surinder Shinda. The part where it says Jeona Morh chattar is not real. A man from Jeona Morh's village in India did an article about Jeona Morh and it was featured in News Papers in Punjab. He says that the way movies or the songs show Jeona Morh dying are wrong. Jeona Morh was hung to death, and there are two stories that they say about Jeona Morh, one is that he jumped off the cliff, the other one is that he got "bachan" from a Hindu mata saying that keep running don't look, Jeona Morh kept running but he looked back and was shot. Both these stories are fake. Jeona Morh died by getting hung and Jeona Morh's brother was also released from jail eventually from Kala Pani. Also Sikhs do go to demi god places, like for example some Sikhs also pray to peers the sufi saints and then some pray to hindu places. 

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singh1606    4

Ok here's the actual history and low down, as unbiased as it can get, from the perceptions of modern day "Sikhi" aka Neo-Sikhism which has been heavily influenced by the British and their established agency and puppet government of the SGPC dal, which still functions today under the Badals, Sukbir and Prakash Badal.

Jatt Jeona Mor was a Maur/Mor Clan Jatt of the Punjab region, undivided, aka Akhand Punjab before pakistan, Haryana, and himachal pradesh were dissected out by governments and politicians, aka the Badals, SGPC and others. Jeona was following traditional and original form of Sikhi before it was changed by the SGPC and the British, they changed it in order to affect our unity against thier rule and cause us to be fragmented, infight and eventually ineffective against them as we fight among ourselves. The SGPC primarily attacks "Devi Pooja" and says that Sikhs shouldnt do "Devi pooja" what Jeona was doing. In reality, Our Gurus themselves were Poojaris of Devi Durga, aka Naina Devi, Kali Ma. They are mentioned many times in Nit Nem as well as Dasam Granth. Devi is called as "Jagat Mata" by Guru Gobind Singh, and he was a firm poojari of Devi Ma, she is Akal Purakh's Shakti Form, and is worshipped as such by the Sikh Gurus and past Avtars.

Jeona was still following Sikhi's original Form before it was changed by the British. There are many proofs of Sikhism original span in Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth, and Sarbloh Granth Sahib. Sikhism did not start in 1469 with Guru Nanak, it has been going on since Satya Yug (Aad Sach, Jugaad Sach, Hai Bhi Sach, Nanak hosi bhi sach." avtar of Guru Nanak is 1469 but Sikhi has existed since Shiva, Brahma, and Vishnu were created as Arch Angels by Akal Purakh. These 3 are also Akal Purakh's first 3 Sikhs, or Shishyas, or "Chaylas." as is described in Jap Ji Sahib by Guru Nanak himself. Our people lost the ancient arts and concepts of "Sikhi" overtime and it had to be revitalized by Guru Nanak and the subsequent Sikh Gurus.

Hindu also is not a religious definition, it is a nationality definition, it means a native of Hind, ie a Hindu. like a person of America is American, of Britain is British, of Punjab is Punjabi, of Rajasthan is Rajasthani, of Hind is therefore Hindu. Hind is the total Land mass of the smaller Land masses of North India:Punjab, Rajasthan, Bihar, UP, etc etc The word Hind itself is a conjugation of Himalaya and Bindu Sarovar (the Vedic Name for Arabian Sea), the land that stretches from the Himalayas in the Northeast to the Arabaian Sea (bindu sarovar) in the west is therefore Hind, and a native of Hind is hence a Hindu. So Sikhism is a native relgion of the defined Land region of Hind, and is hence a native Hindu religion. Not American, not Arabian, not Lebanese, etc etc. The British called Hind as India, naming the Land mass after the largest western river, the Indus, but the Land's original names according to the Vedas is either Hind, Arya Vart, or Bharat, with corresponding nationalities being Hindu, Aryan, or Bharati. So Sikhism is a native Hindu religion, or you can say a native Aryan religion, or native Bharati religion. Just like Jainism and Buddhism, they all originated in Hind.

The higher castes of the Varna system are the actual vedic Aryan races: ie native north Indian Brahmin and Kshatriyas, the Kshatriya Varna is further divded into jatees which are Jatts/Jaats, Gujjars, Rajput, Khatris, and 96 clan Marhattas, and in total they fall under 4 major dynasities, depending on Gotra/Surname: Solar, Lunar, Snake, and Fire (Surya Vansh, Chandra Vansh, Naga Vansh, and Agni Vansh).

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singh1606    4

Another very famous Maur Jatt is Chandra Gupta Maurya, who founded the Mauryan Empire which stretched from Tibet to the East, like Maharaja Ranjit Singh, but this time it strecthed even further west way past Kabul into Persia, Europe, and Greece. Chandra Gupta Maurya defeated the Persians and Macedonians in their own lands as well. 

The Maurs are Powerful Jatt Warriors.

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^^^^Chandra Gupta Maurya/Maur/Mor

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some people are saying this is Jeona Maur's original photograph. you can verify that independently.

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dallysingh101    1,585
22 minutes ago, singh1606 said:

Another very famous Maur Jatt is Chandra Gupta Maurya, who founded the Mauryan Empire which stretched from Tibet to the East, like Maharaja Ranjit Singh, but this time it strecthed even further west way past Kabul into Persia, Europe, and Greece. Chandra Gupta Maurya defeated the Persians and Macedonians in their own lands as well. 

The Maurs are Powerful Jatt Warriors.

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^^^^Chandra Gupta Maurya/Maur/Mor

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some people are saying this is Jeona Maur's original photograph. you can verify that independently.

Many Juts are prone to lying and exaggerating. I'd take all this with a pinch of salt. 

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singh1606    4

The Macedonians aren't the only ones that the Jatts had defeated in ancient history, The lands of Jutland, Geatland (pronounced Yeatland), and Gotland were all established by the Jatt race in Northern Europe. Jatt is pronounced Jut as well as Yut, Jaat, or Yaat. Sometimes in North Indian language the "J" is pronounced as a "Y."

That is why there is a Jutland and Geatland, which is Jutland pronounced with a "Y" instead, both land masses are Original Jatt Territories. Gotland is a more Swedish origin pronunciation of Jatt, but was established by the Geats, aka Jatts. Odin was a Surya Vanshi Jatt of the Asir clan who had defeated Ysgramor of North Europe. He established Asgard in North Europe, "As" refers to Asir Clan, "Gard" is a native North Indian Jatt word, also spelled "Garh" which means Fort, or Kila. the "rh" is pronounced as a "D" so it can also be spelled as "Gard." Asgard therefore means Fort of the Asir, aka Odin. 

Odin was the one that gave Scandinavia its name, he named the land mass after Skanda, Shiva's eldest son, and according to the Puranas the first Overall General of the Jatt Race in the Sat Yug in Northern India was Skanda. Skandinavia, therefore likely means Realm of Skanda. Shiva is also accredited according to the Vedas of forming the first Jatt being, aka Veera Bhadra, a powerful warrior created from the Hair of Shiva. Jatt in sanskrit means Hair. Shiva created the first Jatt in order to establish revenge for Sati (an avtar of Durga Devi) by killing her Father Daksha, on whose account Sati immolated herself in fire, taking her life. Veera Bhadra fought all Devas in order to finally kill Daksha by beheading him. Jatts get their name from their origin from the Jatta of Shiva. Other Dev also created Jatts, like Agni Dev, Chandra Dev, Naga Dev, and Surya Dev, that is why you have 4 major Kshatriya dynasties: Surya, Chandra, Naga, and Agni. but Shiva had created the first one it seems, Jatts are therefore the founders and cornerstone of the Kshatriya Varna, and all other jatees in this Varna originate from the Jatt, whether its Rajput, Khatri, Marhatta, or Gujjar. These were later further defined based on geographical location and occupation, ie Rajasthan Jatts were known as Rajput, Jatts doing vaisya caste (bania caste) work in the cities were known as Khatris, cow herding Jatts as Gujjars, etc. those that stayed on their ancestral land inheritances likely retained the title of Jatt. Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Mother's name is Mata Gujari, likely a nod to the Gujjar division of Jatts, whose language is specifically also called Gujari. like how Jaats in Haryana speak the language called Haryanvi. 

Odin also likely founded Asirya, as it being named right after his Asir Jatt clan, just like Asgard in North Europe, as well as Iran, which refers to Aryan, and according to the Vedas only the High caste Brahmin and Kshatriya Varnas are Aryan races, aka noble races within the 4 caste Varna system defined in the Manu Simriti. 

here's a neat video regarding the Jatt Race's first manifestation: 

Naina Devi Mandir, where Jeona Maur would go, was where the eyes of Sati fell, also stated toward the end of the video; Sati is an avtar of Durga Devi, hence the place's name of Naina Devi, or the Eyes of Durga, in turn who is the Mother of the Universe and Akal Purakh's manifestation of pure Shakti. Whom Guru Gobind Singh Ji refers to as "Jagat Mata" ie Mother of Universe. 

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jkvlondon    3,510
1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

very interesting read.

But wow, this thread was started in 2007? A decade ago!

interesting how he manages to say Guru Sahiban were Kali Ma de pooja karan wale and nobody said a peep....and  Asgard is a mythological place not a real place ...nice try just reminds me of typical Hindutva rewriting of history/geography to suit of modern times ... too much like the Dad in 'my big fat Greek Wedding'  "tell me a word, any word and I will show you it comes from ancient Greek"

 

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jkvlondon    3,510
On 23/07/2017 at 0:15 AM, dallysingh101 said:

Many Juts are prone to lying and exaggerating. I'd take all this with a pinch of salt. 

yep this guy too , see:

The conclusive and most ancient evidence of Chandragupta's kshatriya origin is provided in a book by Chanakya explaining the preference for a poor kshatriya (Chandragupta) over an adharmic (Nanda) king. Chanakya describes himself as a protector of religion because he destroyed the Nanda and gave the empire to the kshatriya Chandragupta.

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singh1606    4

Sikhs today can't even tell you who was the first Jathedar of Akal Takhat since the Khalsa Panth was established in 1699. They can probably tell you who was the first president of the United States, the first Prime Minister of England, the first Prime Minister of India, but they couldn't tell you who was the first Jathedar of Akal Takhat in 1699.

It's because this history as well as Pooja of Durga has been suppressed by the 1920's British created SGPC. You are following an altered, dulled down version of Sikhism edited and cut by the British Imperial Crown. Yes Guru Gobind Singh was a kattar (fanatic) poojari of Durga/Kali Ma, and if he were here today he would reinforce this unto you. He himself wrote the Chandi Charitr and Chandi Di Vaar in Dasam Granth. Not only there, but Durga is praised over 700 times in various parts of Dasam Granth. the Ardas begins with Durga, because Shakti is the first thing that Akal created in the Universe, and Durga is Shakti, she is "pritham" the first to be created:

"Ekh-oonkaar Vaaheguroo jee kee Fat'eh.
Sree Bhagautee jee Sahaa-e. Vaar Sree Bhagautee jee kee Paat'shaahee D'assveen

Pritham Bhagat'ee simar kaae Guroo Nanak laeen' D'hiaa-ae."

Bhagauti refers to Durga, its one of her many names, she is also called Parvati, Kali Ma, Bhavani, Chandi, etc. The Sword, Khanda is also considered a physical manifestation of Shakti/Durga.

"Khanda Pritham Saj kai, jin Sabh Saisaar upaaiaa"- Chandi Di Vaar. Again referencing Durga via the Khanda.

Don't blame me for trying to "rewrite Sikhism," it's already been done by foreign Imperial and greedy forces with the help of traitors that look like you and talk like you, so you can believe them more easily. The British stayed in India for about 200 years, do you think they were sipping tea the entire time?

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dallysingh101    1,585
54 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

yep this guy too , see:

The conclusive and most ancient evidence of Chandragupta's kshatriya origin is provided in a book by Chanakya explaining the preference for a poor kshatriya (Chandragupta) over an adharmic (Nanda) king. Chanakya describes himself as a protector of religion because he destroyed the Nanda and gave the empire to the kshatriya Chandragupta.

These people are such a bunch of tossers that theoretically if aliens from Jupiter invaded earth and subjugated it, they'd run around telling everyone they were descendents of the new rulers pointing out (in earnest....) how the 'Jup' in Jupiter sounds a lot like Jut as irrefutable evidence. lol

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jkvlondon    3,510
1 minute ago, dallysingh101 said:

These people are such a bunch of tossers that theoretically if aliens from Jupiter invaded earth and subjugated it, they'd run around telling everyone they were descendents of the new rulers pointing out (in earnest....) how the 'Jup' in Jupiter sounds a lot like Jut as irrefutable evidence. lol

I am descended from jatts but it doesn't make me desperate to disregard my true roots Sikhi just to score stupid points . It seems Jatt Jeora Morh was probably not sikh but a hindu 

 

17 minutes ago, singh1606 said:

Sikhs today can't even tell you who was the first Jathedar of Akal Takhat since the Khalsa Panth was established in 1699. They can probably tell you who was the first president of the United States, the first Prime Minister of England, the first Prime Minister of India, but they couldn't tell you who was the first Jathedar of Akal Takhat in 1699.

It's because this history as well as Pooja of Durga has been suppressed by the 1920's British created SGPC. You are following an altered, dulled down version of Sikhism edited and cut by the British Imperial Crown. Yes Guru Gobind Singh was a kattar (fanatic) poojari of Durga/Kali Ma, and if he were here today he would reinforce this unto you. He himself wrote the Chandi Charitr and Chandi Di Vaar in Dasam Granth. Not only there, but Durga is praised over 700 times in various parts of Dasam Granth. the Ardas begins with Durga, because Shakti is the first thing that Akal created in the Universe, and Durga is Shakti, she is "pritham" the first to be created:

"Ekh-oonkaar Vaaheguroo jee kee Fat'eh.
Sree Bhagautee jee Sahaa-e. Vaar Sree Bhagautee jee kee Paat'shaahee D'assveen

Pritham Bhagat'ee simar kaae Guroo Nanak laeen' D'hiaa-ae."

Bhagauti refers to Durga, its one of her many names, she is also called Parvati, Kali Ma, Bhavani, Chandi, etc. The Sword, Khanda is also considered a physical manifestation of Shakti/Durga.

"Khanda Pritham Saj kai, jin Sabh Saisaar upaaiaa"- Chandi Di Vaar. Again referencing Durga via the Khanda.

Don't blame me for trying to "rewrite Sikhism," it's already been done by foreign Imperial and greedy forces with the help of traitors that look like you and talk like you, so you can believe them more easily. The British stayed in India for about 200 years, do you think they were sipping tea the entire time?

really , so anyone who is so desperate to make up stuff to prove some jatt supremacy argument is going to tell me that the Gurbani I read should be taken as Devi Devta pooja , I refuse to believe Guru ji ever did that  since He described Akal Purakh as HIs Guru and Waheguru ji's power as Aad Shakti ... we are told in Gurbani numerous times that we need to worship the Creator not the Created  thus not to worship anyone or thing subject to Maya . Explain why Guru Sahiban would worship the Created as all the Demi-Gods are... 

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jkvlondon    3,510
6 minutes ago, simran345 said:

No guesses for who liked his post 😏

These days  it seems a regular occurrence that Hindu mat vale come and try to educate sikhs on how to interpret Guru ji's words and actions ...it's getting old and nearly as bad as the arabian ones who tell me Guru Nanak Dev ji was a muslim ...both so desperate to claim our heritage ...only to destroy us

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simran345    2,459
21 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

These days  it seems a regular occurrence that Hindu mat vale come and try to educate sikhs on how to interpret Guru ji's words and actions ...it's getting old and nearly as bad as the arabian ones who tell me Guru Nanak Dev ji was a muslim ...both so desperate to claim our heritage ...only to destroy us

I'm getting fed up of these people trying to tell us Sikhi originated from Hinduism, and that Guru Nanak Dev ji was a Muslim. If they really thought that you'd think they would be going to Gurdwaras. But they're not. They're talking nonsense as usual. 

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Fed up

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