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I understand what you are saying now. the things you see is people at a level going through one of the "tat". i'm not at a high level so i can't really go into it. What you see is when they get attached with the gurshabadh they dont have control over it at the moment. you will have noticed only a few get reactions like that.

after going a few times it was like a wake up call thinking i'm good i do my basics. but this akath katha is telling us no! we need to have a clean mind with an avasthaa. i also know of some people who just talk and talk and get excited like oh bhai sahib this and that. many actually do the hard work of naam simran and get a real avasthaa. as i said you're obviously having doubts and not happy with your brother going and just talking on and on about it and not really getting anywhere himself. you should really have a chat with bhai ajit singh, and he will not be angry at you, he wants you to ask so that he can give advice, as he justs wants to help people unconditionally.

you may have noticed he backs everything up with gurbani and doesnt tell stories to keep sangat entertained. he is serious. dont ask other people, as i really do know a couple who twist and bend this katha to their own views so that they can be happy with themselves.

the punjchor cause doubts and cause these illusions of guru being far away, dont fall for it. these punj want you to be happy where you are, so that you leave this world without progressing on the gurmat path, and i mean real progress in avasthaas. the main thing is if you enjoy the simran, you are not doomed. some people in this world will never like simran and they cant ever get anywhere, sadly.

it is very important to pay attention to the katha as you will understand in more depth how to battle the punj and progress in gurmat levels. the punj will do anything to keep you away from attending divaans with kmayee wale gurmukhs. remember the punj chor have control externally and internally. there is no hope without taking the message of gurbani and doing naam simran and saadh sangat.

if you have any questions, please for your own peace of mind ask ajit singh. reflecting is important, you havent heard anything manmat but as gurbani tells us in this kaljug doubt can destroy us.

i feel upset when i see fellow gursikhs confused about their sikhi. i personally can't stop going as i really need want to meet waheguru and that is really far away until dasvaa duar opens.

anyway heres something that may help, if you talk to a gurmukh on sant/sadhu stage and above your thoughts will either go completly or almsot 100% atleast. look into his eyes and if you dont feel anything, thats fine. then you will know if going to these divaans are for you or not. dont let this chance slip away, atleast try that then if you feel somethin negative then theres nothing left to say or do.

i hope i have been of SOME help atleast. sorry if i have not.

wjkk wjkf

Thanks for the post

Wish I did know how to interpret the katha, but i dont, why not available in english.

My bro has got avastha i believe singhs reali respect him, me too. I dont knwo the way he goes on sumtimes, only bout bhai sahib i doubt his path......

chalo waheguru is there for all

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yep, my punjabi is not that good either. therefor i always talk to him in english if i need to ask anything, and his english is good. also nowadays bhai ajit singh is making it easier to understand his deep katha by explaining on a white board in detail. i find that clear and easy to understand.

if your brother got an avasthaa after attending swindon divaans, then surely it is genuine.

if only you could understand the katha!! it is very relevant and explain how the punj chor capture us and keep us under control so that we lose this game of life. then the jama will be waiting. we learn how to defeat them so we can win this game of life. also simran jugtis are explained for all so that one can progress.

there has also been an english translation of a book written by bhai seva singh. this explains clearly the way to get into sehaj, rom rom simran and then later stages. also explains the techniques used by maya to get us away from waheguru. i'm sure your brother can get you a copy from swindon. it is available.

what ever you decide to do, i wish you good look in your sikhi dear bhen.

wjkk wjkf

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bhai sahib actaully came to my house not long ago, and did vichaar, and all seemed fine to me, he has a lot of gian. . .and the way they do simran is ment to be next level. . .i mean rensbhais are nothing compared to the way they do it. . (thats what sum1 told me). . . .if you dont understand the katha, then ask him yourself he speaks very good english.

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i have had conversation with singhs who disagree with his views, however they all stated that by going there for a while it will help your avastha and definately mind concentration, but then they sed u shud cum back and practice yourself. . .and carry on. but doing vichaar with him, nothing seemed dodgy, he was actually even pumping sant jarnail singh jee in his vichaar with me. lol. . . but i suppose i dnt know nothing. dhan are those who utter akaals name and help other todo so

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To sitargirl. Firstly it's Bhai Sahib who teaches the route to meet waheguru. He is not a Baba and has never done any baba stuff. He goes in line with Guru Granth Sahib and nothing is added or taken away.

Maybe you should be happy that theres someone out there who is teaching gd, instead of condeming them. If you don't know urself then don't say.

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to go or not to go. that is the ultimate question.

to those who attend...what happened to the Panj Pyaareh giving naam drirh at amrit sanchaars??

how comes he's giving out a technique, isnt that the duty of the panj and the panj only???

and also

3 people who i spoke to (who attend these programs) openly talk about their avasthaa and how much simran they do, and how so and so is at shabad surat stage etc etc

shouldnt this kind of stuff be kept GUPT?!?!

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to go or not to go. that is the ultimate question.

to those who attend...what happened to the Panj Pyaareh giving naam drirh at amrit sanchaars??

how comes he's giving out a technique, isnt that the duty of the panj and the panj only???

and also

3 people who i spoke to (who attend these programs) openly talk about their avasthaa and how much simran they do, and how so and so is at shabad surat stage etc etc

shouldnt this kind of stuff be kept GUPT?!?!

this needs to be answered.

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Hi, im really interested in attending these kathas by bhai sahib; i went down to the swindon gurdwara on sunday but it wasnt on-can any help by telling me which days he does it and where.

Thank you

Lilly

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