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Ajapa Jaap - Naam Simran

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Waheguru ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I came across this on another form....

very enlightening ^_^

AJAPA JAAP

In terms of a layman AJAPA JAAP is the spiritual condition of a person when the Simran goes on an auto pilot mode in your Surat and then in Hirdey and so on as explained below. It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn't stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai or can also be attained with the Kirpa of a Puran Braham Gyani. The normal sequence is as follows:

1. Jaap with Tounge – Rasna – this happens in Dharam Khand

2. Jaap with the breathing – with Swaas – this happens in Gyan Khand and Saram Khand

3. Then Naam goes into your mind – Surat, in your thinking, then it becomes Simran from Jaap – this is a very good stage – this happens in Saram Khand and Karam Khand – some people go into Smadhi at this stage.

4. The next stage is when Simran goes into Hirdey – this one is even much higher stage when Naam goes into Hirdey – this is where it goes on an automatic mode, this is where the real bhagti starts, one goes into Smadhi and Sun Smadhi– Karam Khand - this is when you go into Smadhi and the real bhagti starts, your bhagti account is opened in the Dargah.

5. The next stage is when Simran travels to the Nabhi, when Nabhi Kamal blossoms – Karam Khand

6. The next Stage is when Simran goes into Kundlini – Mooladhaar Chakkar and spine – Karam Khand

7. The next stage is when Simran travels through the spine to the brain, and back to Surat where it completes the cycle. This is what the real Mala of Naam is. When this happens then the Gyan Netter and Dassam Duaar opens and you form a permanent connection with Akal Purakh, you start to get divine knowledge – Braham Gyan. This happens in Sach Khand. Enjoyment – Anand in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi is beyond description. That is why the Maha Purakhs go into very deep meditation some time for days together. You experience a lot of things during your Smadhi and Sun madhi, see a lot of things, meet a lot of Sants, Gurus, see Param Jyot, conversation with the Sants and Akal Purakh and what not, it is beyond description what happens and through what you go when you go into deep meditation. This is the stage when all the doors – Bajjar Kapaat are opened and there is a continuous flow of Amrit, body is always full of Amrit.

8. The Simran in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi continues until NIRGUN AND SARGUN becomes one, at this point Simran goes into rom-rom – every bit of your body does Naam Simran, your Suksham Dehi becomes as pure as gold, your entire body is filled with Naam Amrit all the time. These stages are beyond description. One lives in Puran Parkash all the time and listens to Kirtan all the time. It is just incredible experience. This is when one is directed by the Almighty to serve the Sangat. And this is what your target should be when you have been prompted to move up on Bhagti.

9. Following is the benefit sequence:

Jaap with Rasna 1000 times = Jaap in Swaas one time

Jaap in Swaas 1000 times = Simran in Surat one time

Simran in Surat 1000 times = Simran in Hirdey or elsewhere one time

So Simran in Hirdey and beyond is the most rewarding one. Again some people might think we are getting into counting the benefit, and it is correct to say that we should not indulge in counting, but it is just a way to make the Sangat understand that which way and where Simran will bring what kind of rew

ards. The 1000 numbers signify that the rewards of Simran in Hirdey are much higher than doing Jaap with Rasna. if you do Jaap with Rasna your Rasna will become pavitter - pious, by doing jaap in along breathing - swass your swass will become pious - pavitter, by doing Simran in mind-Surat-Chit- mind will become pious - pavitter, and that is what you need to do to make your mind pious - pavitter, that is how you will have control on your mind and you will be able to rise above Panj Doots - KAAM, KRODH, LOBH, MOH, AHANKAAR AND ALSO ASA, TRISHNA, MANSHA, NINDYA, CHUGLI, BAKHILI, RAJ, JOBAN, DHAN, MAAL, ROOP, RAS, GANDH, THESE THUGS – MENTAL SICKNESSES, and when Simran goes in to Hirdey, it will start to absorb all the vital qualities of Akal Purakh and will become a Puran Sant Hirda, and will achieve JIVAN MUKTI - PARAM PADVI-BRAHAM GYAN . The true definition of a Sant is not by wearing a chola – outside dress and outside rituals, it is the Hirda that becomes Puran Sachyara – completely truthful and that - HIRDA IS SANT and when the Naam Rattan goes into Hirdey -so please try to understand it and put it into your daily lives to get Naam Rattan planted in your Hirdey - then naam goes to Nabhi and spine and so on, and again it happens by itself and with Gurkirpa and not by our own efforts, it will happen only under Hukam. Again highest AMRIT IS NAAM, so please try to make your life cleaner, rise above Panj Doots, kill your desires and don't

indulge in Nindya, rise above all the doubtsfollow the Braham Gyan of bani in your daily lives, become a Puran Sachyara – completely truthful person, serve the truth and achieve your goal of Jivan Mukti.

NOTE: This information was passed to me by a Singh Who won't reveal himself

Waheguru ji ka kahlsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh ^_^

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Sat Sri Akal:

Careful!!!!

This looks like the writing of Surinder Multani, chela of Narinder Garweal whose works are not to be published on the internet!!!!!!

Keep an eye on this fellow....

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Sat Sri Akal:

Careful!!!!

This looks like the writing of Surinder Multani, chela of Narinder Garweal whose works are not to be published on the internet!!!!!!

Keep an eye on this fellow....

Who are these people?

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Sat Sri Akal:

Narinder Garewal was a self proclaimed Brahm Gyani whose stated that he was above Gurbani (and is rumored to have put his feet on the Guru Granth Sahib), that Gurbani was Koor Parchar, that the Panj Pyare are not worthy to administer Amrit, that Khandae Batta Da Amrit is inferior to Naam Amrit, and that Waheguru is not the Gurmantar, bt rather Satnam is (even went as far as to say that Guru Sahiban's fateh was wrong and Waheguru should be replaced with Satnaam in the Fateh).

After a couple of years of his dirty parchar, a newspaper article was run about his material and the Sikhs of Canada (where this person lived) got VERY upset. They led a Jatha to his house, forced their way in to remove the Guru Granth Sahib from further sacrilege and left. After this incident and when Sangat of Canada was informed of this person, they summoned him in front of the Panj Pyare in Canada. There, he asked for forgiveness, told that he would remove his offensive website and stop his parchar. He confessed himself to not be a follower of Sikhism (even though he dressed like one). The Panj Pyare put a ban from Sikhs sharing this person's views and his cult supposedly disbanded (although his chela Multani's posts creep up now and then).

Mutani is a very good writer, in that he can write what seems to be VERY deep posts, but insert little controversies in them. Look at the article above. It mentions Pooran Brahm Gyani. When debating him, he will mention that every Sikh should follow a human Guru and that Gurbani is only the words of the Guru, not the Guru Sahib itself. It mentions Naam Amrit. Upon debate, he will mention that Khandae Batta Da Amrit is like number

three Amrit superseded by Naam Amrit. He speaks of doing this 100,000 times is equal to this one time...when did Sikhism become calculus? Trademark of his posts are talking of not doing nindya...a defense mechanism. Every time anyone challenged his views, he rattled off charges of nindya to that person and tried to make them feel bad. Other such profanities on the Sikh philosophy are spewed by this crafty writer.

A humble benti to Sangat JI, READ CAREFULLY!!! Posts of this person are probably still floating around (might even have been Multani himself that directly e-mailed Bibi Simran Kaur).

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Thanks bro,

I found the following line a bit strange when I read it:

It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn't stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai or can also be attained with the Kirpa of a Puran Braham Gyani.

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Sat Sri Akal:

Exactly. Written deliberately...why? Cause anyone reading will say "Man, this guy's deep". Next step they take is to contact this person and say "Yo, where can I meet this Puran Brahm Gyani". Then he says "Yo, come meet my leader" and voila...you are in member number 1234.

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Sat Sri Akal:

Exactly. Written deliberately...why? Cause anyone reading will say "Man, this guy's deep". Next step they take is to contact this person and say "Yo, where can I meet this Puran Brahm Gyani". Then he says "Yo, come meet my leader" and voila...you are in member number 1234.

LOL, you are 100% right bro :@

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TheGuyDudeMan, which baba ishar were you talking about, the one in the 1960's

Yes, but Baba Ishar Singh Ji didn't say the same thing, although he did say after a while all the pores in your body will start doing naam simran and that is a thousand times more powerful. Check it out here:

http://www.gursikhijeevan.com/media/audio/..._Ishar_Singh_Ji

Download the Guru Teg Bahadaur Ji mp3 file.

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Thanks bro,

I found the following line a bit strange when I read it:

It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn't stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai or can also be attained with the Kirpa of a Puran Braham Gyani.

Fateh!

Despite some claims, i think this can still be an appropriate statement if we all agree that Guru Sahib is Brahm Gyaan, Puran Brahm Gyaani, Nirankaar all inone... therefore, if we do get the Kirpa of GuruJee, then what's stopping us.. I understand that if Multani wrote this, then you gotta watch out, but sometimes i feel that even with Kala Afghana's stuff, if you read it and like... assign your own faith and meaning to it, it still does have tendencies to be powerful reading material.. so long as you can distinguish your own right and wrong from it... Of course Kala Afghana has tooooooooo much stuff which is purely anti-sikhi... but just to refer to this post alone, and NOT narinder's acts.... this post is extremely powerful... it does make sense, as long as you don't get involved with the "References" to human guruship, and associate Puran Brahm Giyaani and other such terms with Guru Sahib..

my personal opinion

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Sat Sri Akal:

Japmans Sahib Ji, a kathakari said this a long time ago and it has plenty of relevance for today and tommorrow. Deradhari Babas, fake sants and propagandists will say 99.9% truth and deep meanings, but that 0.01% is there to make controversy and bend around Gurbani to their own ends to make themselves look like Brahm Gyanis.

I myself found absolutely nothing wrong with the first couple of posts by this Multani...but you get a little upset when the man goes on to escalate his own leader higher than th Guru Sahiban, puts down the Panj Pyare and insults Gurbani and calls it Koor Parchar.

These guys are like a venus fly trap. With scents of nectar they attract you into their fold. You go in and suddenly you find yourself being eaten alive by these leeches. Don't let your love for Gurbani's intoxication close your eyes to the devious material in these types of essays.

If you do not believe me, PM me and I will give you a copy of my discussions with this fellow. You can read for yourself and see the various similarities.

Forgive this fool for any mistakes.

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Sat Sri Akal:

Japmans Sahib Ji, a kathakari said this a long time ago and it has plenty of relevance for today and tommorrow. Deradhari Babas, fake sants and propagandists will say 99.9% truth and deep meanings, but that 0.01% is there to make controversy and bend around Gurbani to their own ends to make themselves look like Brahm Gyanis.

I myself found absolutely nothing wrong with the first couple of posts by this Multani...but you get a little upset when the man goes on to escalate his own leader higher than th Guru Sahiban, puts down the Panj Pyare and insults Gurbani and calls it Koor Parchar.

These guys are like a venus fly trap. With scents of nectar they attract you into their fold. You go in and suddenly you find yourself being eaten alive by these leeches. Don't let your love for Gurbani's intoxication close your eyes to the devious material in these types of essays.

If you do not believe me, PM me and I will give you a copy of my discussions with this fellow. You can read for yourself and see the various similarities.

Forgive this fool for any mistakes.

i fully agree.. once there's direct links and direct words saying that a so called puran brahm giyanni is higher than Guru Sahib himself, then something's wrong..

but for example, in this post, he doesn't distinguish who or what a puran brahm gy

anni is.

This post doesn't say anything about the panj being bad...

i totally understand what you mean.. i've read many discussions between peopole and multani.. it's not exactly the friendliest of interactions.. and i don't blame the people who got angry..

nevertheless, i think this is very very useful information for anyone, really.. i honestly think it's okay to pick and choose alot of stuff. i think it's almost ignorace and blindness to only follow one person's or one policy's views, when it comes to literature. for example, i think it's okay to agree with some of Bhai Vir Singh's writings, and not agree with some others of his work. i could be totally way off base with that, but i think that whatever can help you be more pure, that it should be "allowed", in a sense..

i for one, am printing that and puttin it on my bulletin board.

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Sat Sri Akal:

Oh yeah...Panj Pyare of Canada put BAN on this guy's material ... just so you know.

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