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I was researching for my next blog article and I came across this extremely tasteless and insulting perception of Sikhi, the usual view of Arya Samaj activists. It's amazing the kind of worms that crawl on the internet, as if their offensive views will be judged as true. Such armchair professors like to imagine that one like Guru Nanak was a self-proclaimed godman, while the author of the website higher in his thinking and deeds. Read the following, it's more amusing than to be taken seriously, I believe the Shabad of Nanak, not the crap of this website's disrespectful author(s).

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The religion of Nanak and 9 others

The first truth of true revelation is that it must be revealed in its entirety from the very beginning of creation for all of mankind, and not 600 years ago, depriving those before.

The religion of the Sikhs was founded by one called Guru Nanak (see sect of Guru Nanak) in the state of Punjab, in northern India, about five hundred years ago. He was born in 1469 to a simple Hindu family. He refuted idol-worship of Hindus and despised the tyranny of the Muslim invaders and so it is claimed that he saved many Hindus from converting to Islam by the founding the Sikh religion.

The aim of Nanak was good one. In those days anyone with even a little knowledge of Sanskrit would have been considered a learned man. Since all hymns (Satotras) were done in Sanskrit, it is possible that he was revered for it rather than preaching in his own Punjabi language which would not have brought him such popularity.

During the Guru's life time he had praise for the Vedic teachings but he also reviled it and censured it in his book the Grantha. In anticipation, he denounced the Vedas here and there, in case anyone should ask him the meaning of a Vedic mantra.

He supposedly disappeared while swimming in the river Bain, claiming he was in Holy communion with the Lord God who revealed Himself to him. He then uttered what is now enshrined in the Sikh Holy Scriptures: -

"There is but One God, His name is Truth, He is the Creator, He fears none, He is without hate, He never dies, He is beyond the cycle of births and death, He is self illuminated, He is realized by the kindness of the True Guru. He was True in the beginning, He was True when the ages commenced and has ever been True, He is also True now." Japji.

Was this really the Sikh's God revelation five hundred years ago? Did this God forget to reveal this message in the beginning so that all in His Creation could have benefited from it? It is difficult to believe that the God of Truth hid this truth from millions of souls before Nanak. There is really no contradiction to the above Vedic prayer but to restrict its revelation to Nanak's time is highly erroneous.

On a visit to Kurukshetra in Haryana, Guru Nanak had a meat dish prepared for him, which offended the Hindus. He responded to their anger, saying:-

"Only fools argue whether to eat meat or not. They don't understand truth nor do they meditate on it. Who can define what is meat and what is plant? Who knows where the sin lies being a vegetarian or a non-vegetarian?" Malhar

Surely, if this great originator of Sikhism, who had the most esteem privilege to come face to face with God, did not know where the sin lies, who else would know? This shows very clearly that he was a fake or his followers made him to be such. What disciple of a true God would not know how to define what is meat and what is plant? In Nanak's time the state of Punjab, was altogether destitute of the Sanskrit learning and was at that time suffering under the tyranny of Muslim rule. He did prevent many from converting to Islam. But strange as it may sound, neither did he amass a large gathering of followers nor did Sikhism flourish much during his life time. But it is the norm, as it has occurred all throughout the ages in all the doctrines, that the ignorant made Saints and Martyrs of their teachers after they are dead.

The fault of establishing this new sect is not to be borne by Nanak alone. It was his followers who wanted to benefit materially and take advantage of the ignorance that prevailed then. Even his corpse disappeared over night to fool the mass that he merged with the eternal light of the Creator. It is claimed that both the Hindus and the Muslims revered Nanak and at his death Hindus wanted him cremated and the Muslims wanted him buried. It is strange that his own followers had no interest in his dead body.

After his death many sects within Sikhism began to emerge, beginning with his son who headed the Udasees, the Nirmalas with Ram Das and so on. As the successors to the Sikh dynasty grew they were all incorporated into their sacred book, the Guru Grantha. However, the many various treatises were fictitious stories invented to arrogate themselves Divine privileges and some of these falsehoods were taken from the Hindu Puranas and acting on the precept "Man versed in Divine Knowledge is himself God."

Guru Gobind Singh the tenth and last of the Sikh Gurus was indeed the bravest among all the followers of Nanak. The oppression of his people by the Muslims, which continued until his time, left him no choice but to take revenge. He had neither the men nor the weapons necessary to go to war with the Muslim tyrants who were at the zenith of their power in the Punjab.

The susceptibleness of the followers of Nanak afforded him a strategy. He told them that the Goddess had given him a sword and a blessing saying, "Go forth and fight against the Mohammedans (Muslim). You shall win." It worked and gained many supporters from amongst the people even Hindus. He appointed five articles (kakars) beginning with the letter "K" as the signs of his faith which became very useful in the battle.

Kesha - long unshaven hair, this protects the head, to some extent, against blows from sticks and sword thrusts.

Kangan - a big iron ring worn by akalees on their turbans. Kara - an iron bangle worn on the wrist which helps to protect the wrist and the head.

Kacha - a kind of knicker use in running and jumping, very commonly used by wrestlers and acrobats for the same purpose. It protects the most vital parts of the body as well as makes the movements free.

Karda - a double-edged knife useful in hand to hand combat with the enemy.

Khanga - a comb for dressing the hair.

Guru Gobind Singh, through his wisdom, started the practice of wearing these five articles. They were useful in battle in his time, but they are of no use at the present time. It is rather strange, that these things have now become religious symbols in the religion of the Sikhs. Although they refute idolatry, they worship the Grantha even more than idols and place considerable religious significance on the five articles.

Prostrating to a book (Grantha) incurs the action as the Hindus to an idol. They both make a big show of it in their highly beautified temples to teach others to do the same and receive gifts. The followers of the Grantha do not show the same amount of respect for the Vedas as the Puranics (Hindus) do. Of course, they can justify it by saying that it was never taught to them.

"History tells that societies based on adoration of persons fall prey to mental thraldom which leads to moral, intellectual as well as spiritual emasculation." Vedic Light

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/3440/sikhism.html

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This author is so plainly confused about his own Hindu roots that he cannot seem to accept another's religion as sacred, but rather goes as far as childishly ridiculing it with poisonous words. Such painful words, that not only does it bleed the heart of a Sikh, but insults the very Word of God.

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pity the author man

needs medical attention badly

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may go mental anytime

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what was there before " VEDAS "

God intermittently blesses mankind thru teachings of various saints such as

Jesus

Ram

Krishna

Allah

Buddha

10 Gurus

It is for the naive to belittle any one of the saints.

Ekonkar satnam karta purkh " Nirbho " Nirvair "

akal murth d_oh.gif this singular statement of vaheguru makes Khalsa immortal

Vahae guru ji tha khalsa vahe guru ji the fateh.

Nank nam chadi kala tere bane sarvat tha bhalla

hps

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Arya Samaj are one strand of Hinduism and don't represent all Hindus.

What is important to notice about Arya Samaj is how closely their arguments relate to Muslim and Christian attempts to evangelise and 'disprove' other religions --- in particular how closely this relates to Christian missionaries and their style of writing. This is a Christianised form of Hinduism and you should treat them in the same way as Muslim or Christian prosletysation ---- answer their criticisms without denigrating their religion and move on. As for reading them online --- ignore them.

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Arya Samaj are one strand of Hinduism and don't represent all Hindus.

This is a 100 % correct statement.

There are lot of hindus who respect and may be even worship the SIKH prophets.

I am aware among many Bengalis , Andhra , keralites, Marathis atleast by my personel interaction with them.

nanak nam chadi kala tere bane sarvattha bhalla

love

hps

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more hookers on the loose thats all rolleyes.gif

i dont like this man.....too many haters.

i think theres shud be a group of sikhs that debate these freaks to prove them wrong so their sites go down. i wish i cud do it, IF i knew alot about sikhism. and those that do know alot about sikhi dont try to do <admin-profanity filter activated> man. y is it thaat the dumb guy has to come up with the best ideas and the smart ones are off in their world not trying to do squat to stop this non sence?

and dont say crap like "oh, well we are always reading bani and thats what we all shud b doing" well im pretty sure u dont read bani 24/7. u must have time on ur hands. i think all u have to do it sit behind a computer and type away.

i feel like blowing sumtin up....like seriously.

ppl that are gud with their sikh philosophy need to make a move damit.

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for all our "ignore it" brothers please note that arya samaj movement's main mission was to discredit Sikhi as a religion. So before the famous "ignore it, move on' postings, please read up on the history of arya samaj and the many sikhs who fought against the onslaught of the arya samaj on sikhi.

please read about Giani Ditt Singh's efforts....

know your history.

In 1875 a Hindu group calling themselves Arya Samaj, led by Swami Dayanand started making bold and derogatory statements about the Sikhs. Their main belief was that all religions and faiths were simply a branch of Hinduism. Hinduism is like an ocean which all rivers flow to. All their beliefs were centred around the book of Vedas. Swami Dayanand denounced Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji and labelled the Guru’s and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as having little importance.

The sect was growing in popularity within Punjab and it was apparent to all Sikhs that this group was here to stay and was seeking to eradicate the Sikh faith through lies and accusations or by any means possible. The problem with the Sikhs was that they were by and large leaderless, there was no control of the religion, there were no institutions, no custodians. Other faiths like Christianity, Islam and Hinduism had schools of faith and learning centres. Schools where children could be nurtured, raised within the fold of the faith. This was not the case with the helpless Sikhs.

you can't ignore arya samaj as just another "religion". it started as an attempt to dicredit sikhi, it was a movement, countered by the singh sabha movement.

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Guru Nanak ji would have smiled sweetly and turned away without batting an eyelid. - We should protect the name of the Prophets of Sikhi.

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naa ham hi(n)dhoo n musalamaan

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim

poojaa karo n nivaaj gujaaro

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

eaek nira(n)kaar lae ridhai namasakaaro

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there.

- Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang 1136

In today’s advanced age and time, more and more people have access to education and information than ever before. This has plunged majority of them into the lofty heights of self-acknowledgement. Though this is not a new breed of people (such false preachers and self-proclaimed wise men exited since the beginning of civilization), they philosophies spread their net on people of weaker judgement and victimise them into believing their poisonous preachings. The people of Truth have always been in the minority, because I believe that is the very intention of God. If the people of Truth were in the majority, the minority would be oppressed – like the Mughals did when they spread their faith by the sword. God’s purpose to keep the men of Truth in the minority is to prove that no matter the opposition, Truth’s might triumphs – its takes time, sacrifices and faith to win over the enemy.

The day Nanak was born, only the village Pandit and the midwife instantly recognised the divine soul. Extremely few saw the Diving Light in Nanak, while the rest remained ignorant until the day Nanak merged into the Divine. The ignoranced did not end there – opposition against the House of Nanak continued through the successor Sikh Gurus and still exists today. But today’s ignorance of Sikhi is prevalent not just in non Sikhs, but in many Sikhs as well. Sikhi has proved to me, beyond doubt, that when Truth comes face-to-face with you, the face of the enemy can be seen as Truth reflects only that what we really are. Truth is a mirror – it never reflects what the one facing it isn’t. When I face Guru Granth Sahin (as Shabad), I see what I really am – if I am earnestly following the Shabad, then the picture is pretty, otherwise it is disgusting – and it’s mine, whether I like it or not.

No wonder, that since the advent of Sikhi, with the birth of Nanak, the amount of opposition has been piling up. The greatest opposition to the message of Nanak was that Sikhs are are part of Hindus. It’s a strange claim because on the one hand the Hindus want to own the Sikhs as Hindus, and on the other hand oppose Nanak’s teachings that speak against idol-worship and the caste system. then we have the Muslims who also lay claim on Guru Nanak as one of their own. This is a remarkable scenario, unparalleled in the history of religion where one man is claimed as their own by more religions that the one he founded. Is it not strange to hear the song over and over again that ‘Sikhs are Hindus’ when the people procaliming it do not even believe Guru Nanak’s proclamation that he was neither Hindu nor Muslim? What we miss here is that Nanak as the man is not the entity to be accepted (if we do not want to), it is the Shabad that he revealed to us that is to be followed. The fact is that anyone and everone is a sikh (learner, student) because they follow the teachings of their respective religions. But the Sikhs are those who follow the teachings of the 10 Sikh Gurus as enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, which includes the worship of one God. Besides this, Sikhs cannot be Hindus because Nanak may have been born in a Hindu family, but was not born as a Hindu – he rejected the Janeu at such a tender age. That alone does not prove that Nanak was not a Hindu: He worshipped only one Akaal Purakh (Hindus worship 33 million gods); he grew his kesh and protected it with a dastaar (Hindus cut their hair); he was casteless; he did not fast (Hindus fast); he studied the Vedas but was not a follower of them (Hindus follow the teachings of the Vedas and Puranas); he did not take the mandatory dip in the River Ganga (Hindus are instructed to bathe in the River Ganga at least once in their life time); and he did not follow the Hindu festivals of Raksha Bandhan, Karva Chauth, belief in Vishkarma, astrology and numerology (which all Hindus are devotees of).

The last point above has been separated because it applies to those Sikhs who have allowed themselves to revere certian Hindu customs and rituals which have prompted the Hindu activists to stamp Sikhs as part of Hinduism. What the Hindu activists forget is that even Hindus visit the Harimandir Sahib but no Sikh tells them that it makes them Sikhs. It is just the Hindus that take the exception only because they feel threatened and insecure (just like the Hindu Hill Rajas felt when they saw the flourishing congregation of Guru Gobind Singh Ji), lest the Hindu faith loses on what keep the caste system dominating over the lower castes. Sikhi is so free of dogmas and the worship only one Akaal Purakh, that the Hindus feel the most offended for it challenges centuries of their blind rituals. They forget that the faith of Nanak does not condemn their rituals, but merely awakens them to Truth. No Sikh Guru ever denounced Hinduism, but the opposite is what is happening with the Hindus for they can simply not accept Sikhism as a new faith.

Just because the number of ignorant Sikhs who follow Hindu customs and rituals (like astrology, numerology, fasting, Raksha Bandhan, Diwali, Dushera) is growing in numbers is no proof that Sikhs are Hindus. What is true is that those Sikhs that follow Hinduism as well will one day relapse into Hinduism itself – for they cease to be Sikhs as they have ignored the teachings of their faith and chosen to follow their own manmat which our Gurus rescued us out of.

Just like anyone can dress up like a policeman and commit crimes in its guise, likewise, it is just as easy for any Hindu propagandaist to adorn the roop of a Sikh and try to proove the Hindu-ness of Sikhs by doing Hindu things. The perfect example is the RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) which has began to create rifts into the Sikhs by founding a wing of their Sangh under the name of Rashtriya Sikh Sangat which does everything Hindu and denounces Sikh beliefs because the very mission of RSS is to promote their language (Hindi), rule of their faith (Hindu) and return India to the land of Hindus only (Hindustan). This is nothing short of the ambition of the Mughals when they dreamed of turning Hindustan into a fully Islamic State. The Mughals failed in their ambition because it was based against the very nature of God. The very cause of the agenda against Sikhs is the fact that while every other religion considers itself as the supreme over the others, the Sikh religion is the only one that confers equality to all and does not consider itself higher or lower than another religion. Besides the Sikh religion, all other religions squirm to admit equality because of their over-zealous ambition to dominate and claim of exclusivity. The Christians consider non-Christians as inheritors of Hell, the Muslims consider non-Muslims as kafirs (non-believers) and now the Hindus consider all religions as part of Hinduism. Sikhi is the biggest thorn in the flesh of these major religion because of its message of equality and distinct code of conduct.

The greatest weapons of the RSS and other Hindu propaganda groups are the splinters ’sects’ of Sikhi – the Naamdharis, Radha-Soamis, Nirankaris and Darshan Das. Because they all claim the heritage of Nanak (through their references from Guru Granth Sahin Ji, they do not, however, believe in the Code of the Khalsa (Sikh Rehat) and this is the weakness of the Sikhs that the propaganda activists have taken advantage of and hijacked to turn the attention of the world and ‘proove’ to them that ‘Sikhs are no different from Hindus’. But try as much as they may, Nanak will remain what he was – neither Hindu, nor Muslim.

The point of this article is not to prove that as a Sikh, I consider my faith more beautiful than the others, but to emphasise on the respect we all deserve. When some group treds on insulting our Gurus, our beliefs and practices and then go as far as debunking our faith, then it simply crosses the limit and we need to awaken to what the people around us up to. All the other religions glorify themselves – Christianity, Islam and now Hinduism, but only the Sikh faith refrains from self-glory because the House of Nanak sees all as equal. Our greatest challenge is the rising apostasy, corrupted Sikh leadership and general apathy in regard to our heritage and teachings. Our strength is in disassociating with anyone Sikh or Sikh group that twists the teachings of our Gurus and belittle the authority of Guru Granth Sahib because they become enemies of the House of Nanak. We let them be, but do not allow them to interfere with our beliefs. Sikhs have never been known to speak against any religion, no matter what attrocities they may have committed on the Sikhs – that is the beauty of Sikhi.

The tragedy of our predicament is that we have not recognised our own selves and that is why we are victimised and we hardly even notice it. There was a reason for which Nanak was born and there still is a reason why we need to uphold the values of his teachings. When we forget them is when we become exposed to those that have been the enemy of the House of Nanak for the last 500 years. The enemy never dies but Truth never gives up either.

hi(n)dhoo a(n)nhaa thurakoo kaanaa

The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye

-Bhagat NaamDev Ji, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang 874

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naa ham hi(n)dhoo n musalamaan

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim

poojaa karo n nivaaj gujaaro

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

eaek nira(n)kaar lae ridhai namasakaaro

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there.

- Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang 1136

Now if we take this Gurbani in context then one can say that we are not Sikh either? Because formless God is being worshipped by so many communities? Vedanta believes in it. You may want to study little bit about Vedanta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#Advaita_Vedanta

And please do not think that I’m saying we are Hindus. Charvaks are also considered Hindus although they refused the authority of Vedas, Brahmins and were hardcore atheist. Some believe that Buddhism's lack of having creator God was caused by Charvakas philosophy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvak

There are Hindus who do not believe in God but they are Hindus like Pt Jawaharlal Nehru. He was atheist and Hindu. So, with little bit of cut and paste in your article it may not serve the real purpose of your true intention behind writing article. It is my humble suggestion that you spend some quality time exploring faith which you will be writing your criticism against because it might not be a piece of cake.

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lol this aray smaj .....

khalsa ji i would like to share some thing very few people .... when dayanand sarawati died .... his last wish was that any one who had eat tambakoo even once in his life should be allowed near his body ....

so after his death ... there was no one who can be choosen to do the sanskar of him ... so few top people from arya samaj came in the sharan of khalsa panth because they knew that ats onlt the panth of dasmesh pita which is not ladimar (tambako users) ....

so his sansak was done by singh .....

lol just think of it someone abuse u whole is life .... in the end he had no choice to do his antimsankar .... and they came to your sharan ..... and u help them ....

KHALSA MERO ROOP HAI KHAS

KHALSA MAIN KARRUN NIWAS ....

arya samjh jhukeya khalse murre

gurbar akal ..........

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