Help Me

[De5i]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh.

Firstly I would like to say that what I am about to say is in no way the way I feel in real life or towards Baba Guru.

Earlier this week, thoughts of my religion and the gurus mixed with thoughts that should never be repeated in real life - for that reason I will not say them or write them down as I feel so disgusted that I have even thought of them.

I feel so bad, I have even cried to God to forgive me, however when ever seeing an image of our beloved Guru's, the memory of this thought comes back.

I pray to God that I do not mean any of them, and that he will understand that I do not mean any of them. But I also ask, Will he? These thoughts are not going away, and are upsetting me more since I think about them much more.

I come to ask you, my fellow Sikh Brothers/Sisters, how I can go about praying for God forgiveness.

I will be honest, I am not the most religious Sikh, however I believe in my religion and God - and always go to him for help.

Please help me as I feel very upset - And I honestly do not mean any of these thoughts.

Thank you for reading.

[Mehtab Singh]

This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Raamkalee on Pannaa 944

kubuiD cvwvY so ikqu Twie ]

kubudhh chavaavai so kith t(h)aae ||

"Where is that place, where evil thoughts are destroyed?

ikau qqu n bUJY cotw Kwie ]

kio thath n boojhai chottaa khaae ||

The mortal does not understand the essence of reality; why must he suffer in pain?""

jm dir bwDy koie n rwKY ]

jam dhar baadhhae koe n raakhai ||

No one can save one who is tied up at Death's door.

ibnu sbdY nwhI piq swKY ]

bin sabadhai naahee path saakhai ||

Without the Shabad, no one has any credit or honor.

ikau kir bUJY pwvY pwru ]

kio kar boojhai paavai paar ||

"How can one obtain understanding and cross over?"

nwnk mnmuiK n buJY gvwru ]55]

naanak manamukh n bujhai gavaar ||55||

O Nanak, the foolish self-willed manmukh does not understand. ||55||

kubuiD imtY gur sbdu bIcwir ]

kubudhh mittai gur sabadh beechaar ||

Evil thoughts are erased, contemplating the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

siqguru BytY moK duAwr ]

sathigur bhaettai mokh dhuaar ||

Meeting with the True Guru, the door of liberation is found.

qqu n cInY mnmuKu jil jwie ]

thath n cheenai manamukh jal jaae ||

The self-willed manmukh does not understand the essence of reality, and is burnt to ashes.

durmiq ivCuiV cotw Kwie ]

dhuramath vishhurr chottaa khaae ||

His evil-mindedness separates him from the Lord, and he suffers.

mwnY hukmu sBy gux igAwn ]

maanai hukam sabhae gun giaan ||

Accepting the Hukam of the Lord's Command, he is blessed with all virtues and spiritual wisdom.

nwnk drgh pwvY mwnu ]56]

naanak dharageh paavai maan ||56||

O Nanak, he is honored in the Court of the Lord. ||56||

This Shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Kaydaaraa on Pannaa 1121

kydwrw mhlw 5 ]

kaedhaaraa mehalaa 5 ||

Kaydaaraa, Fifth Mehla:

hir ky nwm ko AwDwru ]

har kae naam ko aadhhaar ||

I take only the Support of the Name of the Lord.

kil klys n kCu ibAwpY sMqsMig ibauhwru ] rhwau ]

kal kalaes n kashh biaapai sa(n)thasa(n)g biouhaar || rehaao ||

Suffering and conflict do not afflict me; I deal only with the Society of the Saints. ||Pause||

kir AnugRhu Awip rwiKE nh aupjqau bykwru ]

kar anugrahu aap raakhiou neh oupajatho baekaar ||

Showering His Mercy on me, the Lord Himself has saved me, and no evil thoughts arise within me.

ijsu prwpiq hoie ismrY iqsu dhq nh sMswru ]1]

jis paraapath hoe simarai this dhehath neh sa(n)saar ||1||

Whoever receives this Grace, contemplates Him in meditation; he is not burned by the fire of the world. ||1||

suK mMgl Awnµd hir hir pRB crn AMimRq swru ]

sukh ma(n)gal aana(n)dh har har prabh charan a(n)mrith saar ||

Peace, joy and bliss come from the Lord, Har, Har. God's Feet are sublime and excellent.

nwnk dws srnwgqI qyry sMqnw kI Cwru ]2]4]12]

naanak dhaas saranaagathee thaerae sa(n)thanaa kee shhaar ||2||4||12||

Slave Nanak seeks Your Sanctuary; he is the dust of the feet of Your Saints. ||2||4||12||

[De5i]

Thank you for your reply. Its nice to know that our Guru's can always help us.

I will still pray until these evil thoughts are removed.

[De5i]

Does anyone else have any more advice?

I have disrespected our Gurus, with no intention or meaning. From thinking these thoughts (which again directly involve our gurus being disrespected) I feel PURE guilt.

Please advice me. Thank you for your understanding.

[Khalsa4ever]

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

The chalee muktai did the same thing... they turned their backs towards the Guru, and left them. But we now respect them, and Guru sahib loved them when they asked for forgiveness.

That's all you need to do. Stand before your guru, and ask forgiveness. Our Guru has never turned this request down.

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

[kaaur]

if guru ji is going to 4give us then y does he let us go threw all this?

dont worri about what u have done..at the end of the day we are only human n we are bound to mke mistakes..

we make many mistakes through out our lifes for one reason or another the key thing is to learn from these mistakes this makes us better and stronger and lets us no where we are going wrong..

guruji knws that u r sorri becasue u have asked for forgiveness. if u have asked with a pure heart (n he will be the judge of that) he will DEFO forgive u..no worries

mistskes are menat to be learnt from, the past is supposed to be forgotten only then can we move on and better our selfs.

[De5i]

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji kee fata,

Thank you for your replies. It hard to explain how disgusting these thoughts were, and as I said before I didnt want to repeat these outside of my mind - as any sikh (including myself) would find it extremly offensive.

For that reason, God will know in my heart, these were mearly thoughts, and that I wish that I could go back 1 weeks and never remember them.

I am a proud Sikh, proud of our religion, our beliefes and in God himself.

May I also say, everyone here has been very kind. I was fearing that some may find what I said abusive, but instead (like true Sikhs), you have helped me.

Thank you again.

[Guest Papi]

if guru ji is going to 4give us then y does he let us go threw all this?

to make a sword it has to be heated to a very high temperature, then hit upon to shape it n make it sharp n then its cooled down.

to extract gold, the ore(?) has to to melted first......

[Bored]

the more u get into sikhi and more u do simran and learn the history of sikhi the more cleaner ur mind gets,trus it, iv'e bin through the same stuff, simran cleans ur mind.