When Guru Gobind Singh ji said,

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

There is one Rehat...the Rehat Maryada...just people think they know more than the Panth (yes, the Panth, not the SGPC!!!!).

You think you could do better...please, go ahead, read all of the Rehats, compile your own and then submit it for approval.

Don't go and quote "shotrcomings" of the current Rehat. If you gots a problem with it, take it up with the Akal Thakat.

This is a serious request...

Forgive the harsh words... :nihungsmile:

[akjforever]

from http://www.panthkhalsa.org/rahit/rahit.html

Without the Code of Conduct, One can not be referred to as a 'Sikh'.

Without the Code of Conduct, One will suffer in the Lord's Court.

(RahitNama Bhai Desa Singh Ji)

SIKH CODE OF CONDUCT

In Sikhism, the word "Rahit" connotes to the precepts for moral and spiritual life. The Sikh Rahit includes spiritual and ethical instructions covering all spheres vital to pious living. The sacred contents of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, regardless of their authorship, are themselves the chief and primary Hukam-Namahs for the Khalsa. Every Sikh is obliged to follow and practice them to the best of his or her abilities. Other sources of the Khalsa Code of Conduct are Sikh scriptures such as the Dasam Granth (Sahib), containing the Banni of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, Vaars of Bhai Gurdaas Ji, and the writings of Bhai Nand (Lal) Singh Ji.

Upon the creation of the Khalsa Panth, Guru Gobind Singh Ji instructed some of his prominent disciples not only to record how the Khalsa should live, but also how he should not live (do's and don'ts). Some of those scholars included : Bhai Daya Singh (one the Panj Piyaray), Bhai Desa Singh, Bhai Chaupa Singh, and Bhai Nand Singh Ji.

It is important to remember that just as no one has the authority to alter the contents of the above scriptures, for the same reason no individual or organization has the authority to modify the Sikh Rahit. There is only one Rahit Maryada for

the Khalsa Panth, it does not belong to any particular Jatha or entity, yet as Sikhs we are all obliged to follow it.

Attempts have been made since the early part of the 20th century to document some of the minimum, day-to-day aspects of the Rahit, it is appropriately titled : "SIKH REHIT MARYADA", and is also known as "Sri Akal Takht Sahib di Maryada."

However, various "new" maryadas have come to evolve under the propoganda of the so-called "Sant-Smaaj", various deras, taksals, and other semperdais. Much of them are based on the very Vedic, Bramanic rituals that Guru Sahib warned us against. Therefore, they hold no value in Panthic circles, and easily fail tests of Gurmat-based logic and reasoning.

The information provided on this page is only a brief introduction to the Khalsa Rahit. Those who yearn to know and follow the TRUTH, should "study" the beloved and mystic contents of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and related scriptures.

He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who follows the Way of the Guru's Will.

One who follows according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers displeasure of separation from the Lord.

(Sorath M3, P601)

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH]

agree with ms 514

[moorakh]

I was under the impression that the quote Rehat Pyaari Mujko Sikh Pyaara Nai was said by Bhai Desa Singh Ji..

NOT by Guru Sahib.

If I'm wrong CORRECT me!

Waheguroo ji ka Khalsa Waheguroo ji ki Fateh !!

Well here I doubt coz most of puratan singhs I have met believe that it was said by Guru Gobind Singh ji and noted down by Bhai Desa Singh ji... but i may be wrong but this is what i heard from puratan singhs...

And yes for gursikhs every tuk in Guru Granth Sahib ji is a HUKAM and hence rehat. But it comes with HIS kirpa and continous commitment that stage is achieved but yea we have to try to follow as much we can from guru granth sahib ji coz it is our rehat

Waheguroo ji ka Khalsa Waheguroo ji ki Fateh !!

[Mkhalsa]

i wont say whether i think there should be one rehat or not.. even in guru gobind singhs time there were missles each with different rehats..

regarding the sgpc rehat maryada.. it was NEVER endorsed by akal takht and has yet to be endorsed by it.. if it was then taksal and nihangs would be OUTRAGED, thus it has never been endorsed and in fact used to say "Draft" on it up until the 50s i think...

as the current maryada has always been a draft and has never been finalized.. it was assumed that it would be finalized in a sarbat khalsa.. but 10 years or so later after the last meeting sgpc just started making random changes on their own unilaterally and it was never panthicly resolved.

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

Endorsement is shown by the Akal Thakat using the Rehat Maryada as the rules. Whenever a Sikh violates the Rehat Maryada, the law quoted is the Rehat Maryada. If the Akal Thakat had their own set of rules, we would have heard about them by now.

With all due respect MKhalsa (a LOT of respect Singh Sahib... :nihungsmile: ), what changes are you referring to. I know that the change that most often is brought up is that of Jathedar Musafar changing the Rehat Maryada to making Dastaars for women optional, but, (unfortunately), no evidence exists to back this up. And no claims of other things being changed have been made apparent (got a copy of the origional Rehat Maryada without the alterations? :T: ).

If you would be so kind to list the alterations made and some evidence behind it, I would be most appreciative.

Last point is personal belief...ONE Panth, ONE Rehat. The Misls were not some golden period in Sikh history to be talked of as the ideal...many practices deemed Brahmanical (havans, pundits, etc) were prevalent during the time. People did a lot of things back in the day that was contrary to Sikhism (Harimandir Sahib had Hindu idols in it up until the early 1900s...placed there by Mahants refusing to give the Harimandir Sahib back to the Sikhs and prolaiming it their own personal property).

Lastly, I leave you with the cove

r letter of the Rehat Committee which instructs the SGPC to print the document (nowehere in it does the SGPC get the authority to alter it...but if it was done, I would not be shocked...just need evidence):

(Oh yeah...it's LONG!!!...)

Source:

http://www.sikh.net/sikhism/rehat_maryada.htm

__________________________________________________________________

The code of conduct and conventions recorded in the pages thatfollow was received by the S.G.P.C. from its Code of Conduct and Conventions Sub-Committee with its report reproduced herein below:

Report of S.G.P.C.'s Code of Conduct and Conventions Sub-Committee

To

The Secretary,

S.G.P. Committee,

Amritsar.

Sir,

The Shromani Gurduwara Prabhandhak Committee had constituted a sub-committee comprising the under-mentioned gentlemen for preparing a draft of code of conduct and conventions to enable it to determine and prescribe a proper set of conventions for gurduwaras (Sikh places of worship):

Giani Thakar Singh, Amritsar;

Giani Sher Singh;

Bhai Budh Singh;

Akali Kaur Singh;

Sant Sangat Singh of Kamaliya;

Bhai Kahn Singh of Nabha;

Sant Gulab Singh of Gholiya;

Bhai Labh Singh, Granthi, Siri Harmandar Sahib;

Bhai Hazur Singh of Hazur Sahib (or a representative of his);

Pandit Basant Singh of Patiala;

Bhai Vir Singh of Amritsar;

Giani Hira Singh Dard;

Bawa Harkishan Singh, Principal, Guru Nanak Khalsa College, Gujranwala;

Bhai Trilochan Singh of Sur Singh, District Lahore;

Giani Hamir Singh of Amritsar;

Pandit Kartar Singh of Dakha, District Ludhiana;

the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht;

the Jathedar of Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib;

the Jathedar of the Takht Sri Patna Sahib;

Prof. Ganga Singh;

Prof. Jodh Singh;

Sant Man Singh of Kankhal;

Justice Teja Singh;

Bhai Randhir Singh; and

Prof. Teja Singh (who was to be the convenor of the

sub-committee).

The meetings of this sub-committee were held on Oct. 4 and 5, 1931, Jan. 3, 1932, and Jan. 31, 1932 at the Akal Takht. The following members kept attending these meetings and participating in the deliberations:

Akali Kaur Singh;

Giani Sher Singh;

Sant Man Singh of Nirmala sect;

Prof. Ganga Singh;

the Jathedar of the Akal Takht;

the Jathedar of Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib;

Giani Hira Singh Dard;

Bhai Labh Singh Granthi;

Giani Thakar Singh;

Giani Hamir Singh;

Bawa Harkishan Singh, M.A.;

Justice Teja Singh;

Bhai Trilochan Singh;

and the undersigned, the convenor.

Apart from these, the following gentlemen, attended occasionally:

S. Dharam Anant Singh, Principal, Sikh Missionary College;

S. Bhag Singh, Advocate, Gurdaspur;

S. Wassawa Singh, Secretary, S.G.P.C.;

S. Tara Singh (President, Shromani Akali Dal); among others.

The draft is submitted to the Shromani Gurduwara Prabhandhak Committee. We hope you will get this draft printed and published for ascertaining the general Panthic opinion as to it and after receiving various opinions, present it in the S.G.P.C.'s general meeting for final acceptance. After this, the draft was once again deliberated upon on 8th May, 1932 at the behest of the S.G.P.C. The following gentlemen were present at the meeting on 8th May:

Justice Teja Singh;

Sant Teja Singh, Granthi, Sri Nankana Sahib;

Giani Gurmukh Singh Musafar;

Giani Nahar Singh;

S. Wassawa Singh, Secretary S.G.P.C.;

Bhai Kartar Singh Jhabbar;

S. Waryam Singh Garmula (member in-charge, Nankana Sahib);

Bhai Pratap Singh, book-seller;

S. Lal Singh (S.G.P.C.);

Jathedar Mohan Singh (Sri Akal Takht); et. al.

Later, on the insistence of several gentlemen, another meeting of the Conduct and Convention Sub Committee was held on 26th September 1932 to consider the draft once again. The following members attended that meeting:

Giani Sher Singh;

Giani Thakar Singh;

Giani Hamir Si

ngh;

Bhai Labh Singh, Granthi, Sri Darbar Sahib;

Giani Gurmukh Singh Musafar;

Bhai Joginder Singh (Mit-Jathedar Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib);

Justice Teja Singh;

Giani Nahar Singh;

and the undersigned, the convenor.

Apart from these, Sant Teja Singh M.A., also participated in the deliberations. The committee deliberated upon the entire draf with utmost care and corrected it minutely. Now this draft is again being submitted by the Conduct and Conventions Sub-Committee to the S.G.P.C. Kindly get this draft printed and circulated among the congregations for their final opinion. Besides, a special session of the S.G.P.C. may be convened to consider it and accord to the approved draft the S.G.P.C.'s final acceptance.

Ist Oct. 1932

Sd. Teja Singh

Convenor, Conduct and Conventions

Sub-Committee

The list of Individuals and Associations who sent their opinions concerning the Draft.

The names of the individuals who sent their opinions as to the draft of the Code of Conduct and Conventions and its contents:

Bhai Sajjan Singh, Custodian of the office of Gurdwara Sri Hazur Sahib, Nander;

S. Hazara Singh, Patiala, Government Contractor, Bhawanigarh;

Giani Hira Singh Dard, Lahore;

Bhai Harnam Singh Naacheez, Village Naushehra Soon Sakesar, District Shahpur;

Bhai Pratap Singh, Publisher and Book-seller, Amritsar;

Bhai Ram Singh, Dera Baba Mishra Singh, Chowk Lachhmansar, Amritsar;

Giani Nahar Singh of Asli Qaumi Dard, Amritsar;

Giani Nahar Singh of Asli Qaumi Dard, Amritsar (Reacting to the second draft);

S. Ganda Singh V.C.O. (Retd.), Examiner Persian Writings Office of the Deputy Commissioner, Jalandhar City;

Vaid Naurang Singh, Gurbachan Singh Tanghi, Amritsar;

Bhai Mala Singh, Gurdwara Churasti Attari, Amritsar;

Sardar Bahadur Bhai Sahib Kahn Singh, Nabha;

Anonymous devotee;

Anonymous devotee;

Sant Tehl Singh Ji, Majitha, Amritsar;

Bhai Narain Singh, Masit Palkot, P.O. Garhdiwala (Hoshiarpur);

Bhai Uttam Singh Chittagong (Bengal), P.O., Railway Building, Chittangong;

Editors, The Khalsa and The Khalsa Advocate, Amritsar;

Bhai Amrik Singh, Lime Merchant, Gujranwala;

Sant Gulab Singh, Khalsa Anand Bhawan, Moga (Ferozepur);

Giani Hira Singh, Dhudial, Jhelum;

Bhai Nand Singh Engineer c/o Baba Bakhtawar Lal Sharma, Bathinda;

Master Bachan Singh 'Bachan', Sidhwan Kalan (Ludhiana);

Bhai Bishan Singh Suhana, G.D. Khalsa High School Jalandhar;

Bhai Nazam Singh Sadhaar, Dinapur (Patna);

Sant Gulab Singh Gholiya, Moga;

Ganda Singh Jaachak, Amritsar;

Master Puran Singh Anandpuri, Chowk Karori, Amritsar;

Giani Bachittar Singh C/o Khalsa Trading Agency, Calcutta;

Bhai Tripat Singh, Nagoki Sarli (Amritsar);

Giani Ran Singh, Gurdwara Damdama Sahib, Mirpur (via Jhelum);

Bhai Chattar Singh, Gurdwara Saranban City, Malayasia;

Bhai Thakar Singh Sansaar, Village Fatehgarh Ghanayian, P.O. Gurdaspur;

Pandit Kartar Singh, Dakha (Ludhiana);

Bhai Prem Singh Giani, Khalsa High School, Kalar (Rawalpindi);

Bhai Gurdit Singh Dars, Chak No. 132, P.O. Multan;

Bhai Sunder Singh Duberan (Rawalpindi);

Giani Bhagat Singh, Khalsa High School, Baba Bakala, Amritsar;

Bhai Saran Singh, Granthi, Gurdwara Ratan Tala, Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Karachi;

Bhai Chhehbar Singh, Head Master, Khalsa Updeshak College, Orphanage Gharjakh (Gujranwala);

Bhai Mal Singh Khosla, Kashmir State;

Dr. Teja Singh Giani, Fateh Chak (Tarn Taran);

Bhai Gurmukh Singh, Granthi, Barhundi (Ludhiana);

Bhai Mohan Singh Vaid, Tarn Taran (Amritsar);

Bhai Jodh Singh, Kripan Bahadar, Alowal, (Malay State);

Bhai Prem Singh, Govt. Pensioner, Mangat (Gujrat);

Bhai Mahan Balbir Singh Akali, Village Patto Singh Wali P.O. Ferozepur;

Bhai Manohar Singh First Head Clerk, Local Gurdwara Committee, Amritsar;

Bhai Mahinder Singh, President, Gurdwara Committee Samadh Bhai, Village Anuke (Ferozepur);

Bhai Gurbachan Singh (Ketrygess M.P. nett Jormun'e

B.Sc.).

Opinions as to the draft of the Code of Conduct and Conventions and its contents were received from the following Panthic associations:

Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, Khadoor Sahib (Amritsar);

Khalsa Committee (School), Hoti;

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Gujranwala;

Sikh Women's Educational Committee, Shaankar (Jalandhar);

Sangat Takhat Sri Kesgarh Sahib, Anandpur;

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Gujarkhan;

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Chak Jhumra Mandi (Lyallpur);

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Kuntrila (Rawalpindi);

Akali Jatha Amritsar City;

Sikh Teachers' Association, Khalsa School, Khaaria (Gujrat)

Khalsa Central Diwan, Shromani Panth, Malouni Jatha, Majha;

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Dhudial (Jhelum);

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Bombay;

Guru Nanak Khalsa Mission School, Dehra Sahib, Jama Rai;

Khalsa Diwan Lahore Cantt.;

Central Sikh Naujuwan Sabha, Burma Jaunji (S.S.S.) and Khalsa Diwan Burma;

Secretary, Akali Jatha, Tehsil Ambala;

Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Khushab (Sargodha);

Pacific Coast Khalsa Diwan, Stockton (America)

Gurdwara Committee, Momeo (Burma);

Jathedar Budha Dal Nihang Singh Chalda Vehir, Dhobi Mandi, Lahore.

One Absolute Manifest. Eternal Destroyer of Darkness. Grace Incarnate

[Mkhalsa]

I happen to have seen a copy of rehat maryada of 1912 published under the name of AKAL TAKHT and not SGPC. This maryada talked about sarbloh bibek maryada.. and I didnt get a chance to do more details but obviously that was taken out for who knows why.

SGPC has altered it, i dont know what evidence you want about giani gurmukh singh musafir.. maybe ask someone old? read bhai randhir singhs books?