Aarti At Sri Hazoor Sahib

[harkunwarsingh]

Aarta was writen by Bhagat Ravi das , Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji saheb and completed by Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Arjun Dev and Badshah darvesh Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji maharaj . The bells part that u mentioned is not right i was there 2 years ago , They only use nagara in the end . Its done the same way guru gobind singh ji had said , please take a look at this video

[Guru_Da_Chella]

If you guys have got Sky Digital, there's this channel called Aastha, channel 828. Really its a Hindu channel cuz its all about the worshipping of Hindu god's and goddesses but everyday at about 1:30pm-3pm Rehraas Sahib comes live from Sri Hazoor Sahib. After Rehraas Sahib is done, aarti commences. This Singh comes out with this taali, basically set on fire and gives it to this Singh who does seva for Guru Gobind Singh's shastar...he waves the flame around the shastar and a picture of Guru Gobind Singh five times. During the Aarti, the part where it comes to 'Gopal tera Aarta' the other Singh waves the taali around Guru Granth Sahib Ji 5 times. Is this really necessary and seems totally Hindufied!!! O yeh not to mention bells are also rung during the Aarti. Wot u guys fing about it...watch it if u haven't.

stop being so paranoid!

i think aarti's wikid, GOPAL TERA AARTA

bo!

sounds fun ))))

Sat Sri Akal:

Hey, I do not care if someone prays to the moon and eats snakes. That's their business. The topic is whether Aarti is allowed in Sikhism. So far, Balbir Ji has insisted that it should be done. If he wants to do Aarti, who cares...I'll send him the money for the plate. This a Sikhi question, not a personal one.

sikh"ism" says do this and don't do that????

Don't worry about such things and just follow sikhi

[JustME]

do abhiyass od aarti man.........u guys got waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time on ur hands................why ask each other ASK GURU JI HIMSELF!!!!

Do no-stop aarti da jaap and then ask Guru Nanak Dev Ji, HE will tell you what is right and what is wrong.............what is gurmat and what is manmat!!!

we no nothing............stop giving it large and bashing each other on forums and actually starting LIVING sikhi!!!!

[sum chumaari]

its always about contradictions isn't it? so much for "we are one" its true - always smart arses out there who want to be different from everyone...you all try to be different withing each other at the same time! its so true about there being "different" sikhs...it shouldnt be the case but it IS...look at all these different responses to this topic...yet ur all sikh... :S

alls i know is whether u use a thalli or not, praise for god should be pure and from within...theres no point using a thaali when theres an impure mind behind the prayer that is uttered...same way its useless if you bow down to the SGGS with corrupt thoughts...in this scenario the person doing arti with a pure mind is more connected with god than the one doing the jaap and then having an impure mind.

we all know there are enough show offs out there who do prayer all the time and regularly visit the gudwara when in truth they are two faced gossipmongors who know zilch about thier roots and religion...its just a bloody shame isnt it?

[SunSingh]

Rehras Sahib at Takht Sri Hazoor Sahib:

One thing I'd like to point out, people seem to insist that anything bad happening in india is the fault of the Hindus. Which one of the 6 schools of philosophy of hindu dharm did narkhdaris come from? Which sect of hindu dharm did ashutosh come from? Was Gurmeet Singh Ram Rahim a hindu sant before ? no. These people are not from any legit religion, instead they are opportunist who take advantage of whatever opportunity they can.

In fact, what happened is that post 84 massive funds were made available to fix up gurdwaras that had been damaged, there was no proper oversight, much of these funds were stolen by sgpc employees. some of these guys properly were somewhat dharmic, did bhagti, got riddh siddh, and then fell prey to the maya of being worshipped. they then used these funds (along with other illegal means like land grabs) to build fake deras and promote themselves.

True hindu religion is under seige as well. It is being changed and twisted by twats like the RSS who are trying to turn it into a religio-political movement similar to the Nazi party. They already have shakas for training youth modelled on WW2 germany's Hitler Youth.

Baba Jagjit Singh ji does katha on this (and the challenges facing Sikh dharm) at an interfaith sant smagam, the video was posted up by Kam not too long ago, I highly recommend people watch it, it's truly an amazing katha.

[Guru_Da_Chella]

True hindu religion is under seige as well. It is being changed and twisted by twats like the RSS who are trying to turn it into a religio-political movement similar to the Nazi party. They already have shakas for training youth modelled on WW2 germany's Hitler Youth.

What is true hindu religion? Hindus are not a religion, it is people like RSS who have turned it into such, the hindu"ism" religion, but originally, the British are responsible for putting us into the religion mindset.

[N30S1NGH]

True hindu religion is under seige as well. It is being changed and twisted by twats like the RSS who are trying to turn it into a religio-political movement similar to the Nazi party. They already have shakas for training youth modelled on WW2 germany's Hitler Youth.

What is true hindu religion? Hindus are not a religion, it is people like RSS who have turned it into such, the hindu"ism" religion, but originally, the British are responsible for putting us into the religion mindset.

londonjatt, are you just parroting what you have read on <banned site filter activated> or you have your own research to back this up? if hinduism wasnt religion, guru patsah wouldnt mention hindu in the bani, sri dasam patsah wouldnt mentioned- words like hindu in ugardanti.

Its about people stop taking stuff mentioned on <banned site filter activated> or people couple of years research as gospel truth.

Anyway, going back to the topic on hand, quite some time ago there was a quite detailed debate on arti-arta tradition in hazoor sahib:

Here is the link for it:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=16855

[Guru_Da_Chella]

True hindu religion is under seige as well. It is being changed and twisted by twats like the RSS who are trying to turn it into a religio-political movement similar to the Nazi party. They already have shakas for training youth modelled on WW2 germany's Hitler Youth.

What is true hindu religion? Hindus are not a religion, it is people like RSS who have turned it into such, the hindu"ism" religion, but originally, the British are responsible for putting us into the religion mindset.

londonjatt, are you just parroting what you have read on <banned site filter activated> or you have your own research to back this up? if hinduism wasnt religion, guru patsah wouldnt mention hindu in the bani, sri dasam patsah wouldnt mentioned- words like hindu in ugardanti.

Its about people stop taking stuff mentioned on <banned site filter activated> or people couple of years research as gospel truth.

Anyway, going back to the topic on hand, quite some time ago there was a quite detailed debate on arti-arta tradition in hazoor sahib:

Here is the link for it:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=16855

There were hindus, hindu culture, hindu dharam/dharma, there was no hindu"ism" the religion. In fact there was no "religion" in India before british came., they stuck people into protestant religion mentality.

And, no, its not from sarbloh, because sarbloh clearly uses the terms sikh religion and sikh"ism", as opposed to just sikhi and sikh dharma/dharam.

[SachaSauda]

On 8/31/2005 at 7:08 AM, ms514 said:

Sat Sri Akal:

So now those who reject things are fanatics. Guru Nanak Sahib must have been the biggest fanatic/lunatic in your eyes since he rejected the Janeoo?

Shoot, let me go to my bath tub and start throwing water towards the sun...my relatives must be hot as anything up there...

And Dasmeshpita Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji sacrificed his entire family to save the Tilak and Janeoo.

[SachaSauda]

On 8/31/2005 at 9:59 PM, Balwinder Singh said:

Anything done out of pure love is good as "mera prabh bhavani bhagat ka bhukha" . Love is the language God knows and acknowledge. "jin prem kiyo tin hi prabh payio".

This is the problem, we are not perfect, but anything that causes hate or builds walls between people is evil, Without love its only a ritual but with love it is perfect. No different to one doing paath with love and concentration or just repeating the words and thinking of worldly matters. Refreshing reading your comments Balbir Singh Ji.

Ranjeet