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    Missionaries

    Has anyone noticed any rising in the UK, and what is the usual response or talking points or points of confusion that leads people to this?
  2. Why do a lot of sikhs bash the sikh missionaries? I am not a supporter, but i want to know more about them, and why are they bashed? This might give me a insight to the situation.
  3. Sikh "scholars" and "parchariks" to look out for, who distort Sikh philosophy, beliefs etc missionaries, feminists, "woke" Sikhs anyone who we should be aware of. Haven't really looked into her work but some lady named Nikky-Kaur-Singh ?? think she is a writer, said that "Kabir's opinion of women is contemptuous and derogatory" basically calling Bhagat Ji a misogynist. Anyone know more about this lady? Another one is Katy Sian. She is Anti-Sikh, especially Anti Sikh men, and a Muslim/islamic apologist. Everyone knows about Neki Karminder Singh Dhillon from Malaysia is another one.
  4. An American went to an Indian island to preach Jesus and Christianity to the natives who have happily been living on the island or 30,000 years without Jesus in their lives. They cut up the American christian and probably cooked him in a pot and ate home for dinner. Now....I'm a vegetarian and would not normally condone the eating of meat but.,...on this occassion, I fully support their meat-eating. https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/who-are-sentinelese-60000-yr-old-tribe-focus-after-american-john-chau-s-death-92014
  5. Some American missionary guy who apparently had a calling from his god (lmao) was thick enough to go to the Andaman islands which are under India, and preach the local tribal people about Jesus, god, and all that bs, Unsurprisingly he had arrows and other tribal weapons shot at him and died. Its heartwarming to know that none of these tribal people will be arrested, but the Indian police are still trying to find his massacred remains in the ocean. Apparently he did 3 year research into these people, clearly didn't learn much did he. His god had a completely different calling for him than what he had thought. These desperate missionaries have destroyed many indigenous tribal traditions in India especially in the North East. I guess these tribal people were smart enough not to fall for his man god Jesus https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6413235/American-tourist-27-killed-protected-tribesmen-remote-island.html#comments
  6. You will be pleased to know that the Sikh Missionary Society has made arrangements to hold the 40th Sikh Students Annual Gurmat Camp from Sunday 29th of July to Saturday the 4th August 2018 at - Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College,Roding Lane, Chigwell, Essex, IG7 6BQ Tel : 020 8559 9160 It will be a special Summer Day Camp for 8-15 years old Sikh students. Special Features of the camp are: Community Living: The Gurmat Way Gurmat Essay Competition Talk from Sikh Scholars Encourage children according to the Sikh Rehat Maryada Workshops/Seminars & Discussions on Sikh Religion Turban tying (Dastar Sajauna) Encouragement & Prizes to the children who learn Gurbani Path by heart There will be an outing for one day Fees: £70 for the first child from a family and £60 for other children in the same family. Special concessions may be available in some cases (please give us a call on 020 8574 1902). Closing date for admission is the 12th of July 2018, there are approximately 100 places available so please book early to avoid disappointment. Note: Minimum Age for Campers is 8 years and the Maximum age is 15. For more information - http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org/sms/smsyouthcamp/
  7. WJKK WJKF, The number of "Professors"/"Teachers" is increasing, the gurdwaras, especially in Asia, are filled with such parchariks/granthis. They often claim to follow the maryada of Sri Akal Thakat Sahib, which was never approved by the panth and till date, approval is pending. The problem is, they hold "gurmat" classes, do "katha" and constantly touch on controversial topics. Their views, when compared to puratan sampardhas like Damdami Taksal, Budha Dal, Bidhi Chand Dal, are quite different. They do not believe in Simran, Amrit vela, puratan maryada of JOT, Jaal, they twist bani to meet their propaganda and ignore the existence of Sant Mahapurkhs. They also do preach reading and understanding bani ON ONE'S OWN and they have no practical experience of bani and bana. They do not do katha on gurbani, except the very literal meanings and somehow I believe it is stupidity to not be able to explain bani to others and continuous "benti" to sangat to read on their own, when in-depth katha is done by mahapurkhs/gianis from dals and taksal. They shame Taksal and Dals fore being influenced by the politics when indeed majority of the students are taught the puratan maryada, santhya and history. They do have great following, and the question is why? Is it because 21st century "Sikhs" they are too smart? Or are they looking for things that meet the worldly logic only? others?
  8. Sikh24 is reporting a "breaking" (meaning unconfirmed) story that some Sikhs in Italy may have tried to violently attack missionary Panthpreet Singh: http://www.sikh24.com/2017/05/07/breaking-bid-to-attack-sikh-preacher-panthpreet-singh-in-italy/ If it's true, it's deplorable, on many levels. Leaving aside other reasons, I'll just come to this: 1) Since the evidence of Guru Granth Sahib ji, Dasam Granth Sahib, Bani Bhai Gurdas ji, Bani Bhai Nand Lal ji, janam sakhis, our glorious history as recorded in Suraj Parkash and other granths, Rehitnamas, biographies of Sikh saints, and historical accounts by non-Sikhs is so overwhelming, there is no reason in the world to engage in violence. 2) The aam sangat (normal members of congregation) do not have great knowledge of the sources mentioned above, or even a deep knowledge of Guru Granth Sahib ji. They find it difficult to evaluate the claims of missionaries as opposed to normal Sikh preachers. What happens is that when Sikhs engage in violence against missionaries, the sangat starts to believe that Sikhs have no firm arguments and that's the reason they get violent. So they start believing that the missionaries are correct. In conclusion, with folded hands, I plead: don't engage in violence, and tell your friends and acquaintances to not do so either, if you care about preserving Sikhism. Attack the missionaries with arguments, not violence.
  9. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! How exactly did the Missionary Jatha get it's influence especially among the majority of those who aren't Amritdhari? Is there a reason why true Gurmat is being attacked by our own people? Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  10. http://www.babushahi.com/view-news.php?id=39 (This is a late response, but still a response to the Pakhand, Gurdwaras have united to stop the Pakhand, despite differences).
  11. http://dailysikhupdates.com/watch-sarbjit-dhunda-attacks-singh/ May Waheguru bless this clown.
  12. https://www.sikh24.com/2016/04/22/usa-virginia-gurdwara-changes-amrit-sanchar-and-ardas/#.VxtZm_fD_qA
  13. slowly and slowly they are going to preach against guru granth sahib ji. these people are becoming a strong cult by attacking our main principles while our "suppose to be caretakers" of takhts and jathedars are busy in collecting maya. ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਮਹਾਰਾਜ ਵੱਲ ਪਿਠ ਕਰਕੇ ਬੈਠਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ, ਬਸ਼ਰਤੇ ਸਟੇਜ ਤੇ ਬੈਠਾ ਬੰਦਾ ਮਸ਼ੀਨਰੀ ਸਰਬਜੀਤ ਧੂੰਦਾ ਹੋਵੇ। ਜੇ ਇਹੀ ਕੋਈ ਚੋਲੇ ਵਾਲਾ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਤਾਂ ਹੁਣ ਤੱਕ ਮਸ਼ੀਨਰੀ ਕਾਮਰੇਡ ਕਤੀੜ ਨੇ ਫੇਸਬੁਕ ਤੇ ਜਿਹਾਦ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੋਣਾ ਸੀ। ਕੋਈ ਨਾ , ਸਮਾਂ ਆ ਰਿਹਾ ਜਦੋਂ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ ਚੁੱਕ ਦੇਣਾ ਰਾਹ-ਦੇ ਸਵਾਮੀਆਂ ਵਾਂਗ ਤੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਨਵਾਂ ਡੰਮ ਚਲਾਉਣਾ। ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਤਾਂ ਵਖਰਾ ਤਿਆਰ ਕਰ ਹੀ ਲਿਆ ਮੈ ਸੁਣਿਆ।
  14. Chaos erupted inside Turlock Gurdwara Sahib in California after a Taksali Singh asked Prof Sarbjit Singh Dhunda a question on Dasam Granth. The question revolved around the maryada of Akal Takht Sahib on Dasam Granth and whether parcharaks are allowed to protest against it. After the question was asked a person with Sarbjit Singh Dhunda somehow felt offended and walked out of the Gurdwara. Sikh sangat became upset on why the question wasn’t fully answered and the urge to leave. Some members of the sangat felt Prof Dhunda was corned on the topic while some said he avoided the questions. SIKH24 OP/ED Do you believe that Professor Sahib Singh’s teeka is the best ever written on Guru Granth Sahib Ji Dhunda: Yes Do you believe that everything written in Guru Granth Sahib Ji is true or not? After some thought, Dhunda answers yes. Do you believe in 8.4 million lives and if there is a life after death or if the soul continues its journey? Dhunda is not able to answer this because he believes there is nothing after life and God has only created us to be better human beings. Dhunda’s explanations are then questioned by references from various shabads in Guru Granth Sahib. Over and over, it is mentioned that there is an after life and what we do, we will have to repent. After this was the biggest question - Do you believe in the super natural concepts mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib Ji? And do you believe that these were just written or those events actually took place? Dhunda answers, however he tries to be smart. He questions that how can a fish go in the air and how can a cow be back alive after it was dead? Responding to Dhunda’s questions, Singhs mention that Professor Sahib Singh and other scholars have all said and interpreted those gurbani verses in the way that those incidents have occurred just how they have been written. S. Kulwant Singh states that if God wants, anything is possible. So if that means the cow was alive again according to Gurbani, then it was, because God made that happen to show and honor the protection of his devotees. After this, Bhai Amarbir Singh from Manteca asked the following question - Does any Sikh parcharak have the right, according to Akal Takht Sahib to openly condemn Sri Dasam Granth? Dhunda asks that the Singhs provide him proof where he has gone against Akal Takht Sahib. Amarbir Singh mentioned that Dhunda has done so many times and there are many recordings. However, during the debate, Dhunda then cleverly changes topic and Balraj Singh, Dhunda’s main sponsor from Patterson gets up and says this was not part of the debate today. Singhs however stated that we are not asking if Sri Dasam Granth is right or wrong, it is only asked if according to our Akal Takht Maryada, is it right to condemn Dasam Granth. After this, Dhunda and his supporters get up try to leave the debate. However, Singhs pose the next question - Do you believe that doing Waheguru Simran is a waste of time and if that had any meaning for the after life. In response, Dhunda pauses for a moment, and then finally answers that Simran is only for us to get a peace of mind here in this world and that he doesn’t know if it has any meaning after since he has not died yet. Singhs insist that over and over, Guru Granth Sahib Ji answers this there is a meaning and without the recitation of God, no one will find the door of liberation at the God’s court, unless God chooses otherwise. So that being, what right does Dhunda have to say Waheguru Simran is pretty much a waste of time? Conclusion These were the basic questions Dhunda could not answer because he does not believe in these concepts. While is it is of utmost important to live a perfect life, it is important to also live life in a way as prescribed by the Gurus, ie. by recitation and understanding of Gurbani and by doing naam simran, keeping rehit, etc. If after life was not important, then why wear a dastar, keep a beard, keep rehit, take amrit?
  15. Miri-Piri Seminar On Saturday 28th February 2015 For students above the age of 12 years. Time & Place: 2.00 PM at The Sikh Missionary Society UK 8 - 10 Featherstone Road Southall, Middlesex UB2 4JH To register your interest, please telephone or e-mail giving: name, age and if coming with parents: Telephone: 020 8574 1902 or E-mail: info@thesikhmissioinarysociety.org Sardar Gurmukh Singh* (Principal, UK Civil Service ret'd) will give a talk for half an hour, followed by questions and answers (Q & A session). The seminar will then continue with an open discussion in which all can take part. Miri-Piri living teaches us to remember Waheguru ji as described in Mool Mantar, while we live normal working lives with our families, sharing with others and taking part in the life of our community called the Khalsa Panth. Our Ten Guru ji's taught us about Miri-Piri living through own lives over the period 1469 to 1708. All that they taught us is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. In the Miri-Piri seminar, we learn together the meaning of the two words "Miri" and "Piri" by looking at simple examples from nature, and from Sikh history to see why it is so important for a Sikh to live a life of Miri-Piri as taught by our Guru ji. Sikhi words will be used and explained. Please do register interest and arrive before 2.00 PM. Further Reading Articles by S. Gurmukh Singh can be read under Articles on Sikh Idealogy & Identity Gurmukh Singh's weekly "News & Views" column in Panjab Times
  16. In the memory of the supreme sacrifice of the Sahibzadas a special Children’s programme will be held here at The Sikh Missionary Society’s Premises on - Date: 28th December 2014 Time: 12.00 (noon) - 3.00 PM Location: Sikh Missionary Society U.K. 10, Featherstone Road, Southall UB2 5AA United Kingdom Featuring Kirtan, Gurbani competition, poems and lectures. Prizes will be given to all participants. Langer consisting of Chips, Beans, Pasta and Fruit dishes will be served at the end. http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org @sikh_missionary
  17. You will be pleased to know that the Sikh Missionary Society has made arrangments to hold the 37th Sikh Students Gurmat Camp from Sunday 27th July to 3rd August 2014 at Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College, Roding Lane, Chigwell, Essex, IG7 6BQ Special Features of the camp are: Community Living: The Gurmat Way Community Living: The Gurmat Way Gurmat Essay & Painting Competition Introduction to Kirtan Indoor and Outdoor Games Lectures from Sikh Scholars Encourage Children to live according to Sikh Rehat Maryada Workshops/Seminars & Discussions on Sikh Religion and Culture Camp Fire and Martial Arts Display Tie up Dastar (Saujana) Encouragement & Prizes to the children who learn Gurbani Path by heart Fees: £80 for the first child from a family and £75 for other children in the same family. Special concessions may be available in some cases (please give us a call on 020 8574 1902). There are approximately 100 places available so please book early to avoid disappointment. Note: Minimum Age for Campers is 8 years and the Maximum age is 14. For more information - http://sikhmissionarysociety.org/sms/smsyouthcamp/
  18. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Dear Khalsa Ji, You are all invited to Celebrate the Birth of the Khalsa Panth at the Sikh Missionary Society (U.K) - Sikh Missionary Society U.K. (Regd.) 10, Featherstone Road. Southall, Middx, UB2 5AA http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org Programme Details 25th April 2014 10.00 – Arambh Sri Akhand Path Sahib 26th April 2014 16:00 to 19:00 – Kavi Darbar 27th April 2014 10.00 – Bhog Sri Akhand Path Sahib 10:30 to 11:15 – Kirtan by Sikh Children 11.15 to 12.30 – Kirtan and Katha Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
  19. 'Principal Gurbachan' the controversial missionary is booked at Park Av and Havelock Rd Gurdwara in Southall this week starting Monday (today) 21st.There are thousands of demonstrators expected. All of his previous prog. in the UK have been Cancelled due his extreme views causing a rift in the Sangat. Please call and politely ask for cancellation so that we can avoid disturbance and trouble. Park Av 0208 574 8901, Sec for Bookings 07944 903730.
  20. Beware of this guy who is the exact replica of dhunda. Look at their catchy stage name ' panthpreet'
  21. The warped psycho Harjinder Dilgeer is upto his old tricks again. Recently on Facebook he stated that "dash granthis should not use the name of Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale in support of Dasamgranth, otherwise people will finding more and more about his mistakes." He has also spoke out against the rescue mission currently happening at Gurdwara Sri Hemkunt Sahib, describing Sri Hemkunt Sahib the invention of RSS. Even now he is trying to spew his distorted Sikh history via articles on Wikipedia which is used by Sikhs and Non-Sikhs all over the world. Dilgeer recently edited the page on Guru Arjan Dev ji Maharaj and wrote: How Was the Guru Martyred?[edit] According to Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer (National Professor of Sikh History):When Guru Arjan appeared in the court of Jahangir, the latter himself issued orders for the execution of the Guru; the task of execution was assigned to Chandu (a courtier of Lahore Darbar). Guru was tied with a rope and taken to the burning sand pits on the bank of Raavi River and also poured red hot sand on his body. Chandu monitored torturing of the Guru for three days and on the 30th of May, when Guru's body was badly burnt; it was thrown into the river."[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Arjan Dilgeer invents his own version of Guru Arjan Dev ji's Shaheedi and does not describe the actual events such as "Guru Sahib was tied to a tree which had all its branches cut off so there was no shade. They then had sand poured over their feet and were kept in a open courtyard in the blistering heat all day long without any food or water to drink. This went on for a few days. The order was then given that Guru Arjan Dev ji were to be seated on a hot iron plate whilst boiling sand would be poured over them. Maharaj after this torture, were allowed to bathe in the River Raavi which flowed on the outskirts of the city of Lahore. Here Guru Arjan Dev ji immersed into the cool waves of the river and journeyed to their heavenly abode… Dilgeer also writes on the page of Damdami Taksal that: Damdami Taksal asserts to be over 300 years old and names Guru Gobind Singh as its founder.[5][6] However, some independent scholars, such as Harjot Oberoi, assert that there is no firm evidence to support this claim.[7] According to Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer (Sikh Twareekh, vols 2 and 5) the term Damdami Taksal never existed before 1977. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damdami_Taksal Pages such as Baba Ajit Singh ji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahibzada_Ajit_Singh) is also full of incorrect information regarding the age differences between the Sahibzade and the issue of marriage of Baba Ajit Singh ji. This page again is using Dilgeers books as references. His own page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harjinder_Singh_Dilgeer) claims he is the National Professor of Sikhism and was also awarded the Koh-i-noor award by the Sangat but does not once mention how his book Sikh Tavareekh was banned by Sri Akal Takhat Sahib and the Sangat of UK & Europe. Benti to sangat, please help edit and change the wrong parchaar done by Dilgeer on Wikipedia and other sites.
  22. You will be pleased to know that the Sikh Missionary Society has made arrangments to hold the 36th Sikh Students Gurmat Camp from Sunday 28th July to 4th August 2013 at Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College, Roding Lane, Chigwell, Essex, IG7 6BQ Special Features of the camp are: Community Living: The Gurmat Way Community Living: The Gurmat Way Gurmat Essay & Painting Competition Introduction to Physical Activities Introduction to Kirtan Indoor and Outdoor Games Workshops/Seminars & Discussions on Sikh Religion and Culture Camp Fire and Martial Arts Display Tie up Dastar (Saujana) Encouragement & Prizes to the children who learn Gurbani Path by heart Fees: £80 for the first child from a family and £75 for other children in the same family. Special concessions may be available in some cases (please give us a call on 020 8574 1902). There are approximately 100 places available so please book early to avoid disappointment. Note: Minimum Age for Campers is 10 years and the Maximum age is 15. For more information - http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org/sms/smsyouthcamp/
  23. http://www.<banned>.com/?p=3818 These Missionary/Kala Afghana/Guru Granth Da Khalsa Panth people need to stop being so anti Hindu. They are so anti-hindu that they stretch things so far and bend over backwards so much that it's like a comedy show going on. They need to get a checkup on their mental health. Don't they know that milk represents many different things? Milk represents purity and cleanliness. Milk comes from cows, which are peaceful animals for the most part. Milk is viewed as a valuable product, especially in India where poverty is almost everywhere. Especially in the olden days, I'm pretty sure it wasn't available to everyone. Milk is a sign of royalty/special treatment. Milk is also used to bathe. Egyptian queens bathed in milk for example. Some woman do so to this day as well once in a while. Some woman wash their face with milk daily. etc, etc, etc. The Darbar Sahib floors are marble if I am not mistaken. Some people say use milk to clean marble, some say don't. Some say milk is acidic, some say it's not. Here is some quick links I pulled up: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg042321386750.html http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/c/cleaning-marble/ http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=34813 http://www.designsponge.com/2013/01/before-after-cleaning-and-restoring-marble.html http://chemistry.about.com/od/foodchemistryfaqs/a/Is-Milk-An-Acid-Or-A-Base.htm For people who claim to want to stay as far away as possible to Charitropakhiaan, I can understand from analyzing their mentality why they would want to stay away from it. Like come on guys... it's milk. Can't you think of anything else other than Shiv Ji's semen? They can't even logically think about milk. No wonder they can't even read Charitropakhiaan with a straight mind.
  24. skip to 7:35 to see what he says about bhai sahib bhai pinderpal skip to 31:00 to the a stupid question asked by the host kuldip and see what parm says abouot bachitter natak
  25. Many people had lost track of where Dhunda went and many people didn't know where he dissappeared to during all of the commotion during his USA tour. Well, first of all, he slipped under the radar and seemed to gain more ground with no one even knowing. He went back to Seattle (USA) first of all. http://www.gurmatgian.com/2013/01/22/settle-usa-katha-bhai-sarbjit-singh-dhunda/ Then he went to New York (USA) for approximately 7 days. Now by Jan 28th 2013 he should be travelling to his next destination. Let's see where that will be... http://www.gurmatgian.com/2013/01/21/news-ssdhunda-usa-samagam-verva/ One interesting point. In the seminar which was on Jan 26, 2013....he teamed up with Harinder Singh (Texas) of Sikh Research Institute. I have seen Harinder Singh speak at many different events in many different locations. He has even went to Canada and gave a very emotional and powerful speach about 1984/Sikh Rights at Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton. This Gurdwara is a very Taksa/Nihung/AKJ/Sampardaa/Udasi, Baba Hari Singh Randhawa, Naap Japnaa, Suraj Prakash Kathaa, Sangraand, etc, friendly Gurdwara and is despised by the missionary base in Toronto. Yet Harinder Singh Texas still speaks there. Now, on the other hand, he spoke right before or after Dhunda at the seminar in New York and is promoted on the same poster/flyer as him as well. Is it just a coincidence or there a connection? Or maybe it's the missionaries being smart and aligning themselves with people who are generally accepted and respected everywhere? The same way the missionaries are always talking about Bhindranwaley, Rajoana, Bhagat Singh, Bhai Taru Singh, etc, etc... The same way they hold conferences and also have Dr. Harshinder Kaur (MD, Patiala, India) speak. She is very well known throughout Punjabi media around the world as she has always talked about female feticide and stood up for women's rights and is very soft spoken. So in the same way, does she have a connection with the missionaries or is it a coincidence or are the missionaries using her status/respect in order to gain more popularity? It's very interesting how more and more people are siding with the missionaries. Things are getting very complex now. Stay alert. My guess is that if Dhunda is not travelling within the USA, then he will be travelling to Canada. So Canada Sangat needs to stay aware and ready. Canada is the missionary, Darshan and Kala-Afghana's stronghold. So be prepared. How could Dhunda have went all around New York (a major place in USA) and no one here was even able to figure it out. Come on guys, wake up...they're gaining more and more ground every day with the general Sangat through their sweet talk and Gurdwara managements drooling for money.
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