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  1. WJKK WJKF, The number of "Professors"/"Teachers" is increasing, the gurdwaras, especially in Asia, are filled with such parchariks/granthis. They often claim to follow the maryada of Sri Akal Thakat Sahib, which was never approved by the panth and till date, approval is pending. The problem is, they hold "gurmat" classes, do "katha" and constantly touch on controversial topics. Their views, when compared to puratan sampardhas like Damdami Taksal, Budha Dal, Bidhi Chand Dal, are quite different. They do not believe in Simran, Amrit vela, puratan maryada of JOT, Jaal, they twist bani to meet their propaganda and ignore the existence of Sant Mahapurkhs. They also do preach reading and understanding bani ON ONE'S OWN and they have no practical experience of bani and bana. They do not do katha on gurbani, except the very literal meanings and somehow I believe it is stupidity to not be able to explain bani to others and continuous "benti" to sangat to read on their own, when in-depth katha is done by mahapurkhs/gianis from dals and taksal. They shame Taksal and Dals fore being influenced by the politics when indeed majority of the students are taught the puratan maryada, santhya and history. They do have great following, and the question is why? Is it because 21st century "Sikhs" they are too smart? Or are they looking for things that meet the worldly logic only? others?
  2. Sikh24 is reporting a "breaking" (meaning unconfirmed) story that some Sikhs in Italy may have tried to violently attack missionary Panthpreet Singh: http://www.sikh24.com/2017/05/07/breaking-bid-to-attack-sikh-preacher-panthpreet-singh-in-italy/ If it's true, it's deplorable, on many levels. Leaving aside other reasons, I'll just come to this: 1) Since the evidence of Guru Granth Sahib ji, Dasam Granth Sahib, Bani Bhai Gurdas ji, Bani Bhai Nand Lal ji, janam sakhis, our glorious history as recorded in Suraj Parkash and other granths, Rehitnamas, biographies of Sikh saints, and historical accounts by non-Sikhs is so overwhelming, there is no reason in the world to engage in violence. 2) The aam sangat (normal members of congregation) do not have great knowledge of the sources mentioned above, or even a deep knowledge of Guru Granth Sahib ji. They find it difficult to evaluate the claims of missionaries as opposed to normal Sikh preachers. What happens is that when Sikhs engage in violence against missionaries, the sangat starts to believe that Sikhs have no firm arguments and that's the reason they get violent. So they start believing that the missionaries are correct. In conclusion, with folded hands, I plead: don't engage in violence, and tell your friends and acquaintances to not do so either, if you care about preserving Sikhism. Attack the missionaries with arguments, not violence.
  3. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! How exactly did the Missionary Jatha get it's influence especially among the majority of those who aren't Amritdhari? Is there a reason why true Gurmat is being attacked by our own people? Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  4. http://www.babushahi.com/view-news.php?id=39 (This is a late response, but still a response to the Pakhand, Gurdwaras have united to stop the Pakhand, despite differences).
  5. http://dailysikhupdates.com/watch-sarbjit-dhunda-attacks-singh/ May Waheguru bless this clown.
  6. https://www.sikh24.com/2016/04/22/usa-virginia-gurdwara-changes-amrit-sanchar-and-ardas/#.VxtZm_fD_qA
  7. slowly and slowly they are going to preach against guru granth sahib ji. these people are becoming a strong cult by attacking our main principles while our "suppose to be caretakers" of takhts and jathedars are busy in collecting maya. ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਮਹਾਰਾਜ ਵੱਲ ਪਿਠ ਕਰਕੇ ਬੈਠਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ, ਬਸ਼ਰਤੇ ਸਟੇਜ ਤੇ ਬੈਠਾ ਬੰਦਾ ਮਸ਼ੀਨਰੀ ਸਰਬਜੀਤ ਧੂੰਦਾ ਹੋਵੇ। ਜੇ ਇਹੀ ਕੋਈ ਚੋਲੇ ਵਾਲਾ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਤਾਂ ਹੁਣ ਤੱਕ ਮਸ਼ੀਨਰੀ ਕਾਮਰੇਡ ਕਤੀੜ ਨੇ ਫੇਸਬੁਕ ਤੇ ਜਿਹਾਦ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੋਣਾ ਸੀ। ਕੋਈ ਨਾ , ਸਮਾਂ ਆ ਰਿਹਾ ਜਦੋਂ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ ਚੁੱਕ ਦੇਣਾ ਰਾਹ-ਦੇ ਸਵਾਮੀਆਂ ਵਾਂਗ ਤੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਨਵਾਂ ਡੰਮ ਚਲਾਉਣਾ। ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਤਾਂ ਵਖਰਾ ਤਿਆਰ ਕਰ ਹੀ ਲਿਆ ਮੈ ਸੁਣਿਆ।
  8. Chaos erupted inside Turlock Gurdwara Sahib in California after a Taksali Singh asked Prof Sarbjit Singh Dhunda a question on Dasam Granth. The question revolved around the maryada of Akal Takht Sahib on Dasam Granth and whether parcharaks are allowed to protest against it. After the question was asked a person with Sarbjit Singh Dhunda somehow felt offended and walked out of the Gurdwara. Sikh sangat became upset on why the question wasn’t fully answered and the urge to leave. Some members of the sangat felt Prof Dhunda was corned on the topic while some said he avoided the questions. SIKH24 OP/ED Do you believe that Professor Sahib Singh’s teeka is the best ever written on Guru Granth Sahib Ji Dhunda: Yes Do you believe that everything written in Guru Granth Sahib Ji is true or not? After some thought, Dhunda answers yes. Do you believe in 8.4 million lives and if there is a life after death or if the soul continues its journey? Dhunda is not able to answer this because he believes there is nothing after life and God has only created us to be better human beings. Dhunda’s explanations are then questioned by references from various shabads in Guru Granth Sahib. Over and over, it is mentioned that there is an after life and what we do, we will have to repent. After this was the biggest question - Do you believe in the super natural concepts mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib Ji? And do you believe that these were just written or those events actually took place? Dhunda answers, however he tries to be smart. He questions that how can a fish go in the air and how can a cow be back alive after it was dead? Responding to Dhunda’s questions, Singhs mention that Professor Sahib Singh and other scholars have all said and interpreted those gurbani verses in the way that those incidents have occurred just how they have been written. S. Kulwant Singh states that if God wants, anything is possible. So if that means the cow was alive again according to Gurbani, then it was, because God made that happen to show and honor the protection of his devotees. After this, Bhai Amarbir Singh from Manteca asked the following question - Does any Sikh parcharak have the right, according to Akal Takht Sahib to openly condemn Sri Dasam Granth? Dhunda asks that the Singhs provide him proof where he has gone against Akal Takht Sahib. Amarbir Singh mentioned that Dhunda has done so many times and there are many recordings. However, during the debate, Dhunda then cleverly changes topic and Balraj Singh, Dhunda’s main sponsor from Patterson gets up and says this was not part of the debate today. Singhs however stated that we are not asking if Sri Dasam Granth is right or wrong, it is only asked if according to our Akal Takht Maryada, is it right to condemn Dasam Granth. After this, Dhunda and his supporters get up try to leave the debate. However, Singhs pose the next question - Do you believe that doing Waheguru Simran is a waste of time and if that had any meaning for the after life. In response, Dhunda pauses for a moment, and then finally answers that Simran is only for us to get a peace of mind here in this world and that he doesn’t know if it has any meaning after since he has not died yet. Singhs insist that over and over, Guru Granth Sahib Ji answers this there is a meaning and without the recitation of God, no one will find the door of liberation at the God’s court, unless God chooses otherwise. So that being, what right does Dhunda have to say Waheguru Simran is pretty much a waste of time? Conclusion These were the basic questions Dhunda could not answer because he does not believe in these concepts. While is it is of utmost important to live a perfect life, it is important to also live life in a way as prescribed by the Gurus, ie. by recitation and understanding of Gurbani and by doing naam simran, keeping rehit, etc. If after life was not important, then why wear a dastar, keep a beard, keep rehit, take amrit?
  9. Miri-Piri Seminar On Saturday 28th February 2015 For students above the age of 12 years. Time & Place: 2.00 PM at The Sikh Missionary Society UK 8 - 10 Featherstone Road Southall, Middlesex UB2 4JH To register your interest, please telephone or e-mail giving: name, age and if coming with parents: Telephone: 020 8574 1902 or E-mail: info@thesikhmissioinarysociety.org Sardar Gurmukh Singh* (Principal, UK Civil Service ret'd) will give a talk for half an hour, followed by questions and answers (Q & A session). The seminar will then continue with an open discussion in which all can take part. Miri-Piri living teaches us to remember Waheguru ji as described in Mool Mantar, while we live normal working lives with our families, sharing with others and taking part in the life of our community called the Khalsa Panth. Our Ten Guru ji's taught us about Miri-Piri living through own lives over the period 1469 to 1708. All that they taught us is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. In the Miri-Piri seminar, we learn together the meaning of the two words "Miri" and "Piri" by looking at simple examples from nature, and from Sikh history to see why it is so important for a Sikh to live a life of Miri-Piri as taught by our Guru ji. Sikhi words will be used and explained. Please do register interest and arrive before 2.00 PM. Further Reading Articles by S. Gurmukh Singh can be read under Articles on Sikh Idealogy & Identity Gurmukh Singh's weekly "News & Views" column in Panjab Times
  10. In the memory of the supreme sacrifice of the Sahibzadas a special Children’s programme will be held here at The Sikh Missionary Society’s Premises on - Date: 28th December 2014 Time: 12.00 (noon) - 3.00 PM Location: Sikh Missionary Society U.K. 10, Featherstone Road, Southall UB2 5AA United Kingdom Featuring Kirtan, Gurbani competition, poems and lectures. Prizes will be given to all participants. Langer consisting of Chips, Beans, Pasta and Fruit dishes will be served at the end. http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org @sikh_missionary
  11. You will be pleased to know that the Sikh Missionary Society has made arrangments to hold the 37th Sikh Students Gurmat Camp from Sunday 27th July to 3rd August 2014 at Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College, Roding Lane, Chigwell, Essex, IG7 6BQ Special Features of the camp are: Community Living: The Gurmat Way Community Living: The Gurmat Way Gurmat Essay & Painting Competition Introduction to Kirtan Indoor and Outdoor Games Lectures from Sikh Scholars Encourage Children to live according to Sikh Rehat Maryada Workshops/Seminars & Discussions on Sikh Religion and Culture Camp Fire and Martial Arts Display Tie up Dastar (Saujana) Encouragement & Prizes to the children who learn Gurbani Path by heart Fees: £80 for the first child from a family and £75 for other children in the same family. Special concessions may be available in some cases (please give us a call on 020 8574 1902). There are approximately 100 places available so please book early to avoid disappointment. Note: Minimum Age for Campers is 8 years and the Maximum age is 14. For more information - http://sikhmissionarysociety.org/sms/smsyouthcamp/
  12. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Dear Khalsa Ji, You are all invited to Celebrate the Birth of the Khalsa Panth at the Sikh Missionary Society (U.K) - Sikh Missionary Society U.K. (Regd.) 10, Featherstone Road. Southall, Middx, UB2 5AA http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org Programme Details 25th April 2014 10.00 – Arambh Sri Akhand Path Sahib 26th April 2014 16:00 to 19:00 – Kavi Darbar 27th April 2014 10.00 – Bhog Sri Akhand Path Sahib 10:30 to 11:15 – Kirtan by Sikh Children 11.15 to 12.30 – Kirtan and Katha Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
  13. 'Principal Gurbachan' the controversial missionary is booked at Park Av and Havelock Rd Gurdwara in Southall this week starting Monday (today) 21st.There are thousands of demonstrators expected. All of his previous prog. in the UK have been Cancelled due his extreme views causing a rift in the Sangat. Please call and politely ask for cancellation so that we can avoid disturbance and trouble. Park Av 0208 574 8901, Sec for Bookings 07944 903730.
  14. Beware of this guy who is the exact replica of dhunda. Look at their catchy stage name ' panthpreet'
  15. The warped psycho Harjinder Dilgeer is upto his old tricks again. Recently on Facebook he stated that "dash granthis should not use the name of Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale in support of Dasamgranth, otherwise people will finding more and more about his mistakes." He has also spoke out against the rescue mission currently happening at Gurdwara Sri Hemkunt Sahib, describing Sri Hemkunt Sahib the invention of RSS. Even now he is trying to spew his distorted Sikh history via articles on Wikipedia which is used by Sikhs and Non-Sikhs all over the world. Dilgeer recently edited the page on Guru Arjan Dev ji Maharaj and wrote: How Was the Guru Martyred?[edit] According to Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer (National Professor of Sikh History):When Guru Arjan appeared in the court of Jahangir, the latter himself issued orders for the execution of the Guru; the task of execution was assigned to Chandu (a courtier of Lahore Darbar). Guru was tied with a rope and taken to the burning sand pits on the bank of Raavi River and also poured red hot sand on his body. Chandu monitored torturing of the Guru for three days and on the 30th of May, when Guru's body was badly burnt; it was thrown into the river."[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Arjan Dilgeer invents his own version of Guru Arjan Dev ji's Shaheedi and does not describe the actual events such as "Guru Sahib was tied to a tree which had all its branches cut off so there was no shade. They then had sand poured over their feet and were kept in a open courtyard in the blistering heat all day long without any food or water to drink. This went on for a few days. The order was then given that Guru Arjan Dev ji were to be seated on a hot iron plate whilst boiling sand would be poured over them. Maharaj after this torture, were allowed to bathe in the River Raavi which flowed on the outskirts of the city of Lahore. Here Guru Arjan Dev ji immersed into the cool waves of the river and journeyed to their heavenly abode… Dilgeer also writes on the page of Damdami Taksal that: Damdami Taksal asserts to be over 300 years old and names Guru Gobind Singh as its founder.[5][6] However, some independent scholars, such as Harjot Oberoi, assert that there is no firm evidence to support this claim.[7] According to Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer (Sikh Twareekh, vols 2 and 5) the term Damdami Taksal never existed before 1977. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damdami_Taksal Pages such as Baba Ajit Singh ji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahibzada_Ajit_Singh) is also full of incorrect information regarding the age differences between the Sahibzade and the issue of marriage of Baba Ajit Singh ji. This page again is using Dilgeers books as references. His own page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harjinder_Singh_Dilgeer) claims he is the National Professor of Sikhism and was also awarded the Koh-i-noor award by the Sangat but does not once mention how his book Sikh Tavareekh was banned by Sri Akal Takhat Sahib and the Sangat of UK & Europe. Benti to sangat, please help edit and change the wrong parchaar done by Dilgeer on Wikipedia and other sites.
  16. You will be pleased to know that the Sikh Missionary Society has made arrangments to hold the 36th Sikh Students Gurmat Camp from Sunday 28th July to 4th August 2013 at Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College, Roding Lane, Chigwell, Essex, IG7 6BQ Special Features of the camp are: Community Living: The Gurmat Way Community Living: The Gurmat Way Gurmat Essay & Painting Competition Introduction to Physical Activities Introduction to Kirtan Indoor and Outdoor Games Workshops/Seminars & Discussions on Sikh Religion and Culture Camp Fire and Martial Arts Display Tie up Dastar (Saujana) Encouragement & Prizes to the children who learn Gurbani Path by heart Fees: £80 for the first child from a family and £75 for other children in the same family. Special concessions may be available in some cases (please give us a call on 020 8574 1902). There are approximately 100 places available so please book early to avoid disappointment. Note: Minimum Age for Campers is 10 years and the Maximum age is 15. For more information - http://www.sikhmissionarysociety.org/sms/smsyouthcamp/
  17. http://www.<banned>.com/?p=3818 These Missionary/Kala Afghana/Guru Granth Da Khalsa Panth people need to stop being so anti Hindu. They are so anti-hindu that they stretch things so far and bend over backwards so much that it's like a comedy show going on. They need to get a checkup on their mental health. Don't they know that milk represents many different things? Milk represents purity and cleanliness. Milk comes from cows, which are peaceful animals for the most part. Milk is viewed as a valuable product, especially in India where poverty is almost everywhere. Especially in the olden days, I'm pretty sure it wasn't available to everyone. Milk is a sign of royalty/special treatment. Milk is also used to bathe. Egyptian queens bathed in milk for example. Some woman do so to this day as well once in a while. Some woman wash their face with milk daily. etc, etc, etc. The Darbar Sahib floors are marble if I am not mistaken. Some people say use milk to clean marble, some say don't. Some say milk is acidic, some say it's not. Here is some quick links I pulled up: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg042321386750.html http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/c/cleaning-marble/ http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=34813 http://www.designsponge.com/2013/01/before-after-cleaning-and-restoring-marble.html http://chemistry.about.com/od/foodchemistryfaqs/a/Is-Milk-An-Acid-Or-A-Base.htm For people who claim to want to stay as far away as possible to Charitropakhiaan, I can understand from analyzing their mentality why they would want to stay away from it. Like come on guys... it's milk. Can't you think of anything else other than Shiv Ji's semen? They can't even logically think about milk. No wonder they can't even read Charitropakhiaan with a straight mind.
  18. skip to 7:35 to see what he says about bhai sahib bhai pinderpal skip to 31:00 to the a stupid question asked by the host kuldip and see what parm says abouot bachitter natak
  19. Many people had lost track of where Dhunda went and many people didn't know where he dissappeared to during all of the commotion during his USA tour. Well, first of all, he slipped under the radar and seemed to gain more ground with no one even knowing. He went back to Seattle (USA) first of all. http://www.gurmatgian.com/2013/01/22/settle-usa-katha-bhai-sarbjit-singh-dhunda/ Then he went to New York (USA) for approximately 7 days. Now by Jan 28th 2013 he should be travelling to his next destination. Let's see where that will be... http://www.gurmatgian.com/2013/01/21/news-ssdhunda-usa-samagam-verva/ One interesting point. In the seminar which was on Jan 26, 2013....he teamed up with Harinder Singh (Texas) of Sikh Research Institute. I have seen Harinder Singh speak at many different events in many different locations. He has even went to Canada and gave a very emotional and powerful speach about 1984/Sikh Rights at Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton. This Gurdwara is a very Taksa/Nihung/AKJ/Sampardaa/Udasi, Baba Hari Singh Randhawa, Naap Japnaa, Suraj Prakash Kathaa, Sangraand, etc, friendly Gurdwara and is despised by the missionary base in Toronto. Yet Harinder Singh Texas still speaks there. Now, on the other hand, he spoke right before or after Dhunda at the seminar in New York and is promoted on the same poster/flyer as him as well. Is it just a coincidence or there a connection? Or maybe it's the missionaries being smart and aligning themselves with people who are generally accepted and respected everywhere? The same way the missionaries are always talking about Bhindranwaley, Rajoana, Bhagat Singh, Bhai Taru Singh, etc, etc... The same way they hold conferences and also have Dr. Harshinder Kaur (MD, Patiala, India) speak. She is very well known throughout Punjabi media around the world as she has always talked about female feticide and stood up for women's rights and is very soft spoken. So in the same way, does she have a connection with the missionaries or is it a coincidence or are the missionaries using her status/respect in order to gain more popularity? It's very interesting how more and more people are siding with the missionaries. Things are getting very complex now. Stay alert. My guess is that if Dhunda is not travelling within the USA, then he will be travelling to Canada. So Canada Sangat needs to stay aware and ready. Canada is the missionary, Darshan and Kala-Afghana's stronghold. So be prepared. How could Dhunda have went all around New York (a major place in USA) and no one here was even able to figure it out. Come on guys, wake up...they're gaining more and more ground every day with the general Sangat through their sweet talk and Gurdwara managements drooling for money.
  20. This is just some of the articles/videos. Who has this much time on their hands? Who gets paid to write all of this? Where is the funding and staff/employment coming from? Who is the RSS? Hmmmmm....... If RSS exists.....it has to be these missionaries/kala-afghanis/guru granth da khalsa panth people. These guys are absolutely pathetic. That's all they do. Put others down and create trouble/controversies/divisions. Save all of this,,,,as they are notorious for taking things down and acting as if they did nothing in the first place.
  21. http://www.gurmatgian.com/2012/12/26/recording-room-26-12-2012/ Read the comment section too. One person wrote: "Kar deo kam shuroo Guru Granth Sahib Jee dee pooree viaakhiaa daa". Stay alert. Oh yeah, and don't forget to save all of this, including the pictures. Especially the one of Dhunda and Thailand.
  22. When this whole thing started out, people I talked to couldn't beleive it when I was saying that Darshan has connection with Kala-Afghana, Sarna, Missionaries, etc. And then this happend: http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/69887-darshan-ragi-kala-afgana-friends-chors-together/?hl=%2Bkala+%2Bafghana#entry564987 Then, people couldn't believe when I said that Dhunda associates with Ghagga, Thailand, Jeonwala, Darshan, etc. And then this happend: (And there's way more proof of Dhunda where that came from, but I want this thread to be focused on someone else.) And for a couple of years now (maybe 2.5 or 3) Bibi Inderpal has been regularly coming on a Saturday night Punjabi tv show called "Masti" in Canada. She would conduct the "Dhaarmik segment" at the beginning of the show. From the beginning I knew something was suspicious. She would do similar things missionaries do, such as going against babas, going against rituals...the usual tarksheel thing. Also, it was quite drama-like with the host of the show. She would be talking all softly and "intellectually" and the host of the show would always pump her up by acting amazed by what she's saying and smiling and laughing and saying "vah vah", etc. It looked like it was a drama or a setup or something to promote her. Slowly slowly, that is what happend. She starts speaking at/attending missionary events/conferences in banquet-halls. She gets chances to write articles on .org which is notorious for the amount of content they release on a daily basis. She also openly supports Dhunda when he is questioned by Akal Takhat Sahib. Need proof? Well, save/copy and paste/screenshot the following....as they end up taking it down. 1. She attends conferences like the following one in which there are speakers such as Thailand, Dilgeer and "Veer Bhupinder" (who has also been exposed in the past). These speakers such as Thailand, Dilgeer and Pal Purewal also post articles on website regularly as well. Here is one of her articles from the website: http://www..org/articles/2012/02%20Feb%2012/29%20Feb%2012%20Advise%20to%20wise%20-%20Inderpal%20Kaur.htm And here is an article comment which she fully supports Dhunda against Akal Takhat Sahib (her comment is right near the top of the comments which are at the bottom of the page): http://www..org/newspics/2012/01Jan2012/18Jan%2012/18%20Jan%2012%20Prof%20Dhoonda%20should%20go%20to%20AKT.htm Here is that same comment copy and pasted incase someone can't find it: " (facebook profile picture of herself) Inderpal Kaur (link to facebook account) pesh hona jaa naa hona, dono halata ch jathedara the ik mind set ban chuka already and oh asi sare jaande haan, lets put more mind to think how to make strong movement jad uhna chekan the plan saaf disda hai. guru rakha Reply · 7 · · January 17, 2012 at 6:05pm " You see that? Let me paste that special part for you again. "...lets put more mind to think how to make strong movement..." - Bibi Inderpal Don't let her soft voice, smile or tricks fool you. She's one of them. That whole meat video (from another thread in this forum) was just one of their tricks. Missionaries/Kala-Afghana don't have a handful of Parchaaraks anymore. They have MANY all around the world. Be aware.
  23. Taken from: www.SarbjitSinghDhunda.blogspot.co.uk Dear Saadh Sangat Ji We would like to bring to your attention the events that have occurred over the last few days as a result of Sarbjit Dhunda’s continued spreading of controversial and anti-Sikh discourses at Sri Guru Singh Sabha Southall (Park Avenue). By way of background Sarabjit Dhunda’s main views which are anti Gurmat include: That Sikhs should not do Naam Simran (repetition of God’s name as accorded by Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) That Sikhs should not pray for the well being of all That Sikhs should place no importance on the bathing in the Holy Sarovar at Sri Harmandir Sahib That Sikhs should place no importance on the Gurdwara at Hemkunt Sahib That the Sikh National Anthem “Deh Shiva Bar Mohe Ihai” has no relevance for Sikhs and was not written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Airing these views openly, Sangat across the globe has taken objection to Dhunda being given the stage at Gurdwareh to spread these views. Dhunda was permitted by the committee at Park Avenue, Southall to hold discourses from Monday 5th November 2012 for 6 days. On Thursday 8th and Friday 9th of November 2012, Sangat, hurt by the controversial views that Sarbjit Dhunda has been allowed to propagate during the past week in Southall, attended to peacefully protest. Sangat numbering less than 20 and including young Sikhs, made their objections known by reciting the holy prayer of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s, Sri Chaupai Sahib in the foyer of the Gurdwara during Dhunda’s discourse. The intention was to make the committee aware that Dhunda’s views are splitting up the community and spreading disharmony. Elder respected Gursikhs that were taking part in the protest had been in contact with the police from early last week via a Police Liaison officer. The police were informed in advance that there would be a peaceful protest against Dhundas visit. On both days of the protest, Inspector Julian Holden of Southall Police was in attendance. Both were happy and impressed with the dignified manner in which the peaceful protest was conducted. On Saturday 10th November, the committee agreed to meet Sangat at Khalsa Primary School, Norwood Hall, Norwood Green. The meeting lasted around 4 hours and committee members including Daljit Hayre and Sukhdeep Randhawa were present. Also present were respected members of the UK Sangat. In the meeting it was discussed and considered that Sarabjit Dhunda had already been reprimanded for his anti Gurmat parchaar by Sri Akaal Takht. It was resolved that whatever the Akaal Takht Jathedar decided, would be what all would abide by. Jathedar Ji said that Dhunda should not be allowed to voice his opinions on a Gurdwara stage and that the committee should call alternative knowledgeable Parcharaks. He stated Dhunda is intent on creating disunity, saying: “All remaining Diwans should be cancelled based on the fact that that the programs were causing considerable distress and major splits in the community across the UK” (translated). These instructions were directly conveyed to Daljit Hayre (Gurudwara Committee member) by the Jathedar via telephone. The recording of Giani Gurbachan Singhs conversation and of Daljit Hayre accepting this decision has been released to the Sangat. Despite agreeing to accept Jathedar Ji’s decision, Sarabjit Dhunda was honored with a Saropa by the committee (Daljit Hayre) at Park Avenue Gurudwara the same evening. He was also allowed to talk for 15 minutes. During which time he declared he shall not do any more Katha until he appeared before Sri Akaal Thakat Sahib. (Video footage of this has been released) The Head Granthi of Singh Sabha Southall, Balwinder “Phati”, denounced the Jathedar’s decision and encouraged him to do a discourse on stage. The Stage Secretary, Sukhdeep Randhawa, openly challenged the authority of Sri Akaal Takht Sahib. On Sunday the 11th of November, Dhunda did Katha at Guru Nanak Darbar Gurudwara, King Street, Southall, and spoke at length at Singh Sabha Southall, Havelock Road. This is despite his pledge not to, until he had presented himself before Sri Akaal Thakat Sahib. At 5pm the Sangat were made aware that Dhunda would do a discourse at Park Avenue at 7pm. Sukhdeep Randhawa (Stage Sec) was immediately contacted, to seek clarification. He claimed “I heard that as well, but I do not know, me and Daljit (Hayre) always get the blame but others may be trying to organise it!” Sukhdeep Randhawa was asked if he could confirm if the discourse would go ahead so that Sangat could be warned and could attend to register their protest peacefully. Sukhdeep Randawa replied by text; “Ok Ji”. Approximately 10 members of the Sangat arrived around 6pm to protest peacefully as they had done the previous 2 nights by reciting Sri Chaupai Sahib.This small group were prevented from reciting Gurbani in the peaceful and dignified manner in which they had done on the previous 2 nights. At first they were verbally abused which then escalated to violent pushing and barging. To the dismay of the Sangat, the committee and Sarabjit Dhunda’s supporters (approximately 60 in number), violently drove the Sangat from the foyer and out on to the street. One prominent member of the group was Sarbjit “Bavha”.During this vicious attack the turban (Dastaar) of a young Sikh was removed. After violently ejecting the Sangat, the gates were locked by Sarbjit “Bavha”. (Video of this has been released) The police were called by the Sangat. Frustratingly, instead of the police arresting those who committed violent acts in the Gurdwara by forcefully ejecting the Sangat, the perpetrators were allowed to remain outside and taunt the protesting Sangat. Shortly after the ejection of the Sangat, Dhunda arrived. The Sangat gathered around his car to make their presence aware and to let him know that the Sangat objected to his views which were not joining the Sangat to the Guru but dividing them. At the time 2 members of a prominent committee members family rushed into the protesters from behind, pushing and swearing at them. They were then followed by several of his friends who continued to push 2 young members of the Sangat aged 15 and 16 years old. This was clearly orchestrated in an attempt to aggravate the Sangat. The ‘thugs’ that tried to attack the Sangat from behind were visibly under the influence of alcohol By entering the Gurdwara under the influence of intoxicants, these individuals that have attacked the Sangat have broken the strict rules and code of conduct of the Gurdwara. One individual later tried to re-enter the Gurdwara premises from the front gate but was stopped by the police and sangat who recognised that he was drunk and should not be allowed onto the Gurdwara premises. The protesting Sangat wanted to have a calm and open discussion with the committee and Dhunda about their anti Gurmat parchaar and open violation of The Akaal Takht Jathedar's instructions not to let Dhunda speak. Panthic parcharak Bhai Surinder Singh, who in India is leading the fight for justice for Shaheed Bhai Jaspal Singh, also attended and tried to pacify the situation. He proposed that 2 members of the protesting Sangat (including himself) be allowed to meet Sarabjit Dhunda in front of the Sangat inside the Gurudwara. Bhai Surinder Singh was prevented from entering the Gurudwara. The Gurudwara Committee at first sent a message via the police that Dhunda and the committee would meet with Bhai Surinder Singh. However after an hour of game playing and lies they refused to face Bhai Surinder Singh. Dhunda was fully aware that he would be extremely embarrassed by a Panthic Parcharak. It is of note that protesting Sangat were made up of Sikhs of all backgrounds not just one group. They were all united in their opposition of the false Parchar of Dhunda and the actions of committee members who rather than joining the Sangat attacked them instead. Word spread of the Committee’s attack on the Sangat and Dhunda’s disregard of the Akaal Takht’s Hukam, the small group of Sangat grew to more than 200. At the end of Dhunda’s discourse, a sit-down protest took place at the car park gates to demonstrate the deep upset and disrespect that had taken place by allowing Dhunda to do a discourse. The Sangat braved the cold and moved only to let vehicles leave. All this time Dhunda remained hid inside the Gurdwara. Dhunda was escorted by the police who were clad in riot gear with the support of Police dogs. During the police charge many Sangat were injured and many turbans (dastaars) were knocked off, including that of Raghbir Singh who was reporting for Sangat TV News. The police used disproportionate force in attacking the Sangat, injuring many with batons. Dhunda was driven away in Sarbjit “Bavha’s” car, with a police escort. Once Dhunda had left, the Sangat remained for some time in an attempt to peacefully engage with the committee and seek a resolution once and for all. However the committee remained in the Gurdwara office and refused to enter into a dialogue with the Sangat. There was no victory to be taken by any anyone on Sunday. It was a black day caused not by Sangat taking up their right to a righteous and peaceful protest doing Naam Jap, but by the committee, who ignored the wishes of Sri Akaal Thakat Sahib and wider Sangat. Despite the heavy police presence and committee attempts to frustrate and taunt the Sangat no arrests were made. The Sangat behaved in a dignified and respectful way. The Sangat made several requests of the committee before Sunday night, humbly, in the interests of peace that Dhunda not be permitted to enter upon the stage. It is worrying that the committee did not itself foresee the inevitable consequences of putting Dhunda on stage in spite of the Akaal Takht’s order. The committee had booked Dhunda to attend from Monday to Saturday. In the face of all the heated debate and Sri Akaal Takht’s Sahib Jathedars Order, to book Dhunda to attend the following evening was a terrible decision and against the will of the Sangat. For the committee to have booked him to do a discourse on Sunday, notwithstanding the Hukam from Jathedar it cannot be denied that such a booking was undertaken out of spite and ego, to hurt the sentiment of the Sikhs: no Gurdwara committee should be responsible for causing such anguish and disharmony in the community.
  24. Taken from: http://sarbjitsinghdhunda.blogspot.co.uk/ More info on Sarbjit Dhunda on: http://sarbjitsinghdhunda.blogspot.co.uk/ Please share and forward.