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  1. I'm trying to find some authentic information regarding the original kirpan. Along with other artifacts, the Kirpan allegedly belonging the Guru (handed over by Nabha royal family after court battle), has recently (2015) been on display in Anandpur Sahib and on specially organised tour. The kirpan is short and there are longer swords and other artefacts- see this link. The Kirpan itself has a sharp straight edge. It is not curved (photo below, top left). The sheaths on all artifacts are made of leather perhaps with some wood on the larger ones and are straight in shape (no end hook). Given the design of the leather sheath, the manner in which it would be held by a gatra would be very different as there is no holding edge. The gatra would have had to be secured to the leather sheath somehow- perhaps the original gatra was also different to what is known today. Leather is used to keep the edge sharp, so the kirpan would have been very much functional with a cutting edge. The longer sword sheaths, consistent with sword designs from the era, have hooks on them for mounting to a leather horse saddle. If someone has high quality photos of these can they please share them. They look very different to the bog standard modern (20th century) style of kirpan, which resembles an arab knife, complete with sharp curve in the metal/wood decorative sheath. This modern design has always struck me as odd and inauthentic. The recently revealed artefacts are more in line with what has appeared to me in spiritual visualisation, but there are certain missing features, which presumably could have been lost over time. Who invented the modern style of Kirpan? How many other examples exist of authentic early kirpans, sheaths and gatras (with documented provenance)? Presumably the presentation of the Guru's short kirpan sets aside the belief that the original kirpan was "full length" and only shortened in length in the 19th century.
  2. Can anyone provide contact information (Facebook, Whatsapp, Phone Number, etc...) For shastar/kirpan makers/sellers in Amritsar? Thank You.
  3. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Is it possible to wear kirpan openly in Canada, that is, not beneath one's clothing? If so, is this routinely practiced? In the UK, I've often worn it openly but in some circumstances had this partly covered e.g. over the clothes but partly wrapped by a cummarband along the waist. Sometimes beneath a sleeveless vest type jacket with half of it dangling at my waist. I've never experienced any problems and dealt politely with the odd racist. I've spent several years doing humanitarian work in the developing world and have never had to conceal my kirpan at any time. However I'm now moving to Canada and am apprehensive about public acceptance, particularly in small provinces where they may be just a handful or no sikhs at all. I wear only hand spun bana and no other style of clothing whatsoever. Can I walk down a high street without fear of being arrested or worse, shot by gun-toting police? Would it be prudent to have a prior meeting with the administration/police chief of the town/city that I plan to spend time in, to help them understand my rights? Thanks for your kind help.
  4. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh, does anyone have any suggestions for where Daas can get high quality kirpans? (Daas would prefer not getting the KhalsaKirpans that cost crazy just because they have some fancy jewels). Does anybody know where to get high quality affordable Kirpans? (Also none of those mass produced shastars as they don't seem as strong).
  5. We debuted At the L.A, Nagar kirtan had a wonderful response. Come Check us out on Facebook. or on the web at The Kirpan above is the DK-1 $160 us dollars will ship anywhere around the world for $25. If you need further information please feel free to email us at
  6. waheguru ji khalsa waheguru ji fateh was wondering if wearing a pesh kabz is a kirpan, because right now i wear taksaily kirpan which isnt sharp and i dont think can defend my self. what is the exact definition of a kirpan, does a kirpan have to be a curved shastar?
  7. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh i am taking a Day to trip to attend funeral, need to go straight to funeral home, not taking any luggage with me, i understand,i have to travel without Siri Sahib. so my question is if i do check in for my siri sahib only, can wear it after i land without taking shower? as we are going straight to the funeral home from airport no time to take shower.
  8. Fateh jio. Please could sangat tell me how they wear their Kirpans under Shirts to work etc? How can you wear this with a shirt tucked in, is there something you guys do?
  9. Hi so I have a question. Where is the Kirpan handle supposed to end - is it supposed to sit at your hip joint? Or is it supposed to be at waist line? Is it the end of the handle people look at or the end of the Kirpan point? Either way what is the correct length? Also can I wrap it on a belt? Or can I use a belt as a kamaar kass? Thanks
  10. I came across a video on youtube while i was searching Baba thakur singh bhindranwale. A amritdhari sikh takes off his kirpan half way through the video. I was suprised this singh had did this. I support him with what he is doing and i think everybody should but it was a real big suprise What are your thoughts on this ??? And are we allowed to remove our kirpans?? This is the video
  11. Watch these disgusting goons pick on a girl and her brother in law. Some might say this is India. But the western world is not safe from this behavior. Many times women are molested in this manner and no one does anything. Instead these people stand by and make a video of it. There are more bystanders than those who will stand up against this behavior. I witnessed this behavior myself in the western world and did not hesitate to send the message home to the goon. The kirpan's presence is a deterrence in itself. The goons fear the thought of the kirpan coming out and it's glistening blade penetrating their body. Take Amrit and wear the kirpan proudly.
  12. You know how sikhi is a practical dharam.. Then why do we wear the 5 K's in the west? I mean realistically when would we use our kirpan. Isn't it better to learn mma, boxing etc. which are much more practically and if you get in a fight, can use and not get a prison sentence for / someone told me sikhism is based on the time, so like the first 5 guru sahibs didnt wear a kirpan (cuz it wasnt needed) but then the next 5 did cuz of the situtation with the mughals. So like in the west it's peace, the law doesnt really let us use kirpana. so what's the practical reason? what do you think>??
  13. Where can I buy a longer Kachera (Kachera for Chola) Online??
  14. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ Article 25 of the Indian Constitution allows Sikhs "the wearing and carrying of kirpans". Do you know of any places in India where this right is abused and therefore illegal? If so, list them here and when the visit took place.
  15. does anyone know what to do when your kirtan gets stuck as you can't take it out of the shield? all help would be appreciated.
  16. I would like to order a quality kirpan for a reasonable price... Any suggestions? Also interested in ordering the panj shastar that are parvan to sikhs by Guru Ji.
  17. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Amritsar, Punjab (July 31, 2014): The Shiromani Gurdwara Prabhandak Committee (SGPC) has strongly criticized Ganganagar (Rajasthan) based “University of Kota” also called “Kota University” for banning an Amritdhari Sikh student from entrying the examination hall because of his Kirpan. Sikh Kirpan – is a sword that is considered to be integral part of practice of Sikh religion. In a statement SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar said Kirpan, one of the essential articles of faith, is must for a Sikh to wear all the times, but the administration of Kota University did not allow an Amritdhari Sikh student Jagwinder Singh to enter the examination hall. He was to take part in examination for the course of “Registered Medical Practitioner” (RMP). He said that many foreign countries have allowed Sikhs to wear Kirpan but it was unfortunate that Sikhs were being treated as ‘slaves’ in India. “Kota University’s move has hurt the sentiments of global Sikh community”, SGPC statement reads. Avtar Singh Makkar said that Kota University administration should withdraw it’s “Aurangzeb-style” order and allow Sikh students to take part in examination. He said that special arrangement should be made for Jagwinder Singh so that he could take part in exam that was missed because of university’s wrongful restrain. He said that if the university administration fails to act as per SGPC’s demands, legal action shall be fired against the university. by Sikh Siyasat Bureau.
  18. i was recently looking at kirpans and came across this and it made me think why not use a combat style knife, when this type looks similar and just bears the khanda on it, also should not the kirpan be a practical tool and well as a spiritual / Ang of ours and gift from Guru ji, would not any appropriate combat knife with a leather sheath and a khanda put on it and presented before Guru ji and an ardas offered be acceptable, please give your feelings and advice about this. bhul chuk maf ji.
  19. Hello All, Please only reply with answers that are factual and/or constructive. Answers from persons learned in law are preferable. 1. Are places of work regarded as public places in reference to the Criminal and Justice act 1988 section 139. 2. Is an employer in the UK obliged to allow a baptized Sikh to wear a Kirpan and a Turban. 3. What does one do if he/she is asked to remove an article of faith 'Kirpan' or Turban (please list easy to understand steps.) 4. Does the act in bold permit Sikhs to wear Turbans in places which are not classed as construction sites i.e. places where hard hats are required but are not necessarily construction sites. 5. What organizations are there in the UK which assist with religious ban cases. What are the normal results of cases mentioned before. 6. Are there any Baptised Sikh lawyers in the UK who I can ask specific questions to via email? Guru's blessing.
  20. WJKK WJKF Will Canada's Wonderland stop me at security for a 9 inch kirpan? Should I just tell them in advance before I walk through or will they let me just walk in?
  21. Full size 11.75inch kirpan from Jyot Singh Khalsa ( Original purchase price £220.00 I am open to offers, as a guide I'm looking for £140.00.
  22. Gurfateh Sangat Ji, Benti to all, has anyone recently been to Italy, (by plane, not boat, or by foot).. I was wondering what the airport and security checks were like, as there was quite a commotion last year about dastaar's and kirpans being taken off/overly searched. It would be great to get some feedback or any exeprience in regards to this, Dhanvaad, Daas. :cool2:
  23. What is the understanding behind carrying 3 ft kirpan? i like having shaastar on you all time but i see people who turns into famous personality started carrying 3 ft kirpan. Is this showing that "I am leader" ?
  24. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh, Have seen some posts regards Sri Sahib being kept on the left hand side of the body so gattra goes across from right shoulder down. Only problem, Im left handed, should I have it on the opposite side as my strongest hand would be going towards my Sri Sahib if/when I need to use it? Bhull Chukk Maaf Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh.
  25. This link is being circulated widely on Twitter and has been picked up by Quebec media, apparently..