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  1. PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO BEFORE YOU READ MY RESPONSE: MY RESPONSE: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! The image of Sikhs is being deliberately tarnished by the Indian governments influence. The government is mad that Sikhs are starting to gain power outside India and want to do everything they can to keep us under their control. This idea of "Sikh Extremism" is so overblown, there was a recent study in the UK which showed that Sikh Extremism isnt even a threat. The concept of "Khalistan", a nation run on Sikh values by Sikhs, isnt something thats "extreme", its a very reasonable thing for a community to work towards, and even the Guru himself told Sikhs to be sovereign and remain independent. Even if we go back to the 1800's in Maharaja Ranjit Singhs Sikh Kingdom, we can see a liberal and secular society were minorities are accepted, and there wasn't even any death penalty. This is just a small taste of what Sikhs can contribute to the world. On the topic of Jagmeet Singh, its obvious that the Indian government wants to destroy the reputation of this Amritdhari Sikh who is allways try to push to have the 1984 Sikh Genocide officially recognized. Jagmeet Singh represents the next generation of Sikh politicians, and is seen as a role model in the Sikh youth. The Indian government is throwing false accusations at him, denied his visa, spread a lot of fake news, and they are trying to do everything they can to stop a decent minded Sikh from becoming elected, just look at the drama they caused in India when the Canadian PM visited, or the non stop hit pieces and character assassinations they do. When it comes to Baba Jarnail Singh Bhinranwale, there is proof that the Indian government pre-planned the attack on Darbar Sahib, and were planing it even before Bhindranwale entered Akal Takth. During their genocide, they attacked multiple Gurdwara's. and even destroyed the Sikh Reference Library and stole so many precious Sikh texts, some even written by the Gurus themselves. To this day the government refuses to apologize for its instigation's on genocide, and still refuses to at least give back the stolen Sikh texts. Its so obvious the 1984 genocide was engineered to destroy Sikhi.
  2. After seeing this in the news: http://www.firstpost.com/india/who-is-jaspal-atwal-khalistani-militant-convicted-of-trying-to-kill-punjab-minister-roils-india-canada-relations-4362871.html I was wondering if anyone has got more information about the khalistan movement in canada during the 80s/90s. I know the likes of Parmar, Bagri, Para, Kooner, Khera and now Raman etc are all well known, but there were many other actions that took place in Canada. The likes of jasbir Singh Atwal, Jaspal Singh Atwal, Amarjit Singh Dhindsa and Sukhdial Singh Gill, I also remeber hearing about another group of youth who tried doing Rajiv Gandhi on his visit there? Can anyone share any info as these are kurbaniyah that were taken by the youth during a dark period in our history. Advance Warning: IF YOU GOT NOTHING PRODUCTIVE TO SAY THEN PLEASE DONT COMMENT ON THIS THREAD lol
  3. Justin Trudeau visit to India

    Justin Trudeau has been snubbed by the senior members of the Modi BJP Government. In fact this stretches to not just the Political Party but also to the Indian Media. No senior officials have welcomed or accompanied Trudeau during his tour of Gujarat or Agra. Amritsar on the other hand has shown great hospitality to Trudeau with the SGPC, Akali Dal and Congress senior Politicians all eagerly greeting him and his family to the city and Darbar Sahib. The treatments of Trudeau is all very public and the questions of ‘Khalistan’ and the Canadian stance on the subject is all over the news now. Even Captain Arminder couldn’t resist bringing up the subject in his brief meeting at the Taj hotel today. He also had the nerve to accuse Canadian Sikhs of financing militancy in Punjab and directing targeted assassinations. Modi is scheduled to meet Justin Trudeau during the week and we can all expect to hear the same sound bites. Will Sikhs in Canada be sacrificed for trade between the two countries and what will Justin Trudeau make of his trip to India?
  4. Please watch the video before you read my response: MY RESPONSE: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! As someone who actually supports the concept of an independent state run on Sikh values (Khalistan), I don’t think that songs like this do anything for positive the movement. We need less gang bang hood type of music videos, and we need actual change in terms of drug addiction, female infanticide, low birth rates, lack of education, etc, all of which will actually help the Sikh community, rather than a music video in which we are waving around guns and talking about assassinating people. They put videos of Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, but don’t realize that whenever people came to him asking to join the movement, the first thing he said was to pick up a Gutka before the Gun, because the real power of Sikhi comes from Bani. Baba Bhindranwale also never boasted or showed off, and and neither did he all of a sudden start demanding a separate state, but he primarily focused on major issues in the panth, and used violence as a last resort. Our community has a habit of ignoring the important humanitarian and intellectual work of sevadaars and mainly focusing on the action part. People always talk about Baba Deep Singh as a physical warrior, but forget how he had an entire life of studying Bani that led up to his legendary Shaheedi. We all like to talk about Khalistan, yet forget the main issues affecting the panth like drug addiction, farmer debt, suicide, casteism, sexism, lack of education, low birthrates, etc. The Panth doesn't have the infrastructure to build or support another country, and before we start boasting about end goals, we should at least primarily focus on our main issues. A common response that I get is that this is just a music video, and that it at least does a good job of reminding people about important issues, however I would argue that there are better ways of talking about the issue of Sikh independence without waving around weapons and acting like a gang. The last thing the Panth, and the Khalsitani movement needs right now is even more bad publicity, and videos like this only reinforce the common held belief that the main advocates of Khalistan were from the west. PS: At least they didn’t put a communist flag in this video, it was a decent song tho. TL;DR: Can we focus more on Bani and less on wearing Kaali ? Thanks! Question for the Sangat: What do you guys think of this video?
  5. What are your thoughts on this recent article? https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/sikh-separatists-in-canada-drawing-ire-in-indian-media-before-trudeau-visit-1.3792889 Here are my thoughts: You know you are on the wrong side of history, when you attack freedom of speech. "Sikh relgious sucessionism"? LoL! Have they ever read Sikh history or Gurbani? Its common sense to those who are educated on Sikhi that the Sikh Panth is meant to be distinct from others and be independent. The Khalsa is literally meant to be a sovereign army and institution all in one, that only answer's to the Guru, that by itself isnt legal in another country, and its a pretty obvious hint that the Guru clearly taught Sikhs to be independent, but of course. But of course all this means nothing becuase most "Sikhs" in India dont support it, which must mean its a radical idea, even if its backed up by history and bani... Of course its going to come up coincidentally when a Prime Minister visits India, what better time to attack Sikhs. One could make the argument that the Indian government lets Hindu right wing national movements flourish, and there's actually proof that India got a German official to spy on Sikhs. Or what about that time that that. If you wanna talk about state sponsored terrorism. there's a lot of accusations India has gotten, but the problem with them is that they dont care. Read article: German official charged with spying on Sikhs for India : https://www.thelocal.de/20160920/german-official-charged-with-spying-on-sikhs-for-india India State Sponsored Terrorism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#India Amarinder Sengh is a meme at this point, he will say anything to tarnish the reputations of Sikhs abroad. He is salty that international Sikhs are making it, and that him and his third world government are losing their power over the Sikh community. At this point, who cares what that ladoo has to say? its obvious hes doing this as part of his personal smear campaign.
  6. http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/nia-takes-over-six-cases-with-khalistan-link/512930.html If you read the article above you can see tecently there have been few high profile killings of controversial figures in punjab. The Indian establishment member and freemason atheist secular punjabi dog captain amrinder singh blames Khalistani's for it. Yet all evidence points towards either RSS/Hindtva groups or Indian govt agents trying to defame the Khalistani's due to the 2020 Khalistan campaign. On the eve of the punjab elections where congress party defeated the corrupt dog badal and his anti-panthic akali party the congress party members did a small car bomb attack on some random place in punjab and blamed Khalistani's for it. No group claimed responsibility but suspicions in the panth are that Indian agents linked to congress party carried it out just as they had did similar antics in 1980s to attack the Sikh panth. The corrupt inhumane terrorist Indian establishment can't reach the Sikhs in the west from speaking out against the crimes it has committed against their community in India. They cant stop the freedom of expression and freedom of speech to fight for an independent nation state of Khalistan. They cant silence the right of self determination so they are trying to falsify evidence, trying to implicate Sikhs from aboard in killings that they themselves have carried out in false flag operations so that they can try to scare or dis-wade those who are against Indian terrorism and anti-sikh crimes that they are not unreachable and Indian govt terrorist agents can try to implicate them in order to silence them. So as we have seen Juggi the british born operator of the neverforget84 website was recently outrageously kidnapped by state agents and put in jail pending a trial. It has been the wish of the modi/indian govt to slience Sikhs aboard because they are a nuisance, causing a fuss about mass murder and vicitimisation of their minority community at the hands of the powerful. They know its embarrassing for them everytime they visit that Sikhs 4 justice protest against them and highlight their murderous regime and state terrorism against our community and other minorities.

    Dear Sangath, If Khalistan is established today, which legal system/framework we would actually implement? Or it will be developed from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharajj?
  8. Slightly late, but a massive salute to the massive kurbani of Dilavar Singh Jaisinghwala, alongside the other Singhs - Balwant Singh Rajoana, Jathedar Jagtar Singh Hawara, Lakhwinder Singh Lakha, Gurmeet Singh Engineer, Naseeb Singh and the others who did the massive seva of sending Beanthah Paapi to hell!!!
  9. http://www.sikh24.com/2017/08/20/more-evidence-of-british-govt-cover-up-in-amritsar-1984-attack-role/ Also I noticed the leaked document that caused storms in 2014 is not available in the national archives to view freely even though 30years+ have passed and those secret docs are now widely available in the public domain when they were accidentally uncovered by journalist phil miller. There is a huge coverup going on hopefully the 2 elected Sikh MP's together with John Mcdonal and Tom watson will help unlock those documents hidden away in secret vaults.
  10. anyone watch these 2 documentaries that were made? if so whats your thoughts?
  11. Miri-Piri in Sikhi.

    The Sikh Theory of Dual Sovereignty. The three paramount aims of Nanakianism, ab initio, are: 1.) The reorientation of the individual from a base creature- a creature of the senses- to a spiritually attuned and intuitive being. 2.) The consecutive reorientation, and arraignment, of societal atrophy vis-a-vis equality and universalism. 3.) The establishment of a corporate base from whence the downtrodden and oppressed can be made to realize their status as founts of all civic authority and be steeled to resist both socio-political and politico-religious tyranny. Guru Nanak Dev Ji, the initiator of the ethos, openly decried the incumbent powers of his time who continually eschewed the fundamental rights of their subjects. A witness to both Brahminical (Caste) and Shariat (Islamic) totalitarianism, the Guru sundered his acolytes from traditional Indic spirituality which emphasized a quietist attitude towards life and mandated the spiritual seeker to retreat from societal concerns. (1) Via the Guru’s perception, both ruler and the ruled were equally culpable in the atrophy of the socio-political paradigm, ‘The emperors be insatiable beasts, their viziers be the curs. The Age is a knife, the kings be the butchers. In such darkness, the moon of morality is nowhere visible.’ (2) ‘…the subjects, blind, and devoid of knowledge divine pay bribes to satisfy their overlords’ avarice.’ (3) His was a faith which challenged the individual to offer their head, figuratively and literally, in pursuit of societal betterment and resistance in face of authoritarian oppression. (4) Rejecting the Semitic theory of man’s inherent imperfectness, in toto, the Guru bowed to his acolyte Angad and nominated him as his successor. The ideology of Nanakianism, thus, was identified as being paramount than the corporeal body. Angad who imbued it in full was transformed into Nanak II whilst his predecessor discarded his own mortal coil for the heavenly realms having laid the edifice of a Sui generis faith and nation. It was, essentially, the continuation of a revolution which in time would herald the raising of a corporate entity dedicated to challenging the might of all absolutist states and their pretensions of being the sole focal points of all dedication and loyalty. The arraignment and subsequent execution of Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Nanak V, at the hands of the theocratic Islamic Mughal state- far from altering the complexion of the Sikh faith as most modern historians contend- acted as a catalyst for Nanakianism’s rapid evolution. Acknowledging that the times were not conducive for dialogue Guru Arjan advised his successor to arm himself, and after investing himself with sovereign regalia, to raise an army and construct a seat of power. It was in the latter vein that Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji ascended the steps of the newly constructed Akal-Takhat in 1606 A.D. and, after having been coronated Guru, promulgated the principle of Miri-cum-Piri or dual sovereignty. Nanak Ihad mandated his acolytes to accept the worldly life in full and the responsibilities it entailed. Nanak VI not only renewed this mandate but explicated it in full through the concepts of Miri and Piri. This principle of dual sovereignty, fundamentally speaking, posited that the individual was the fount of all political authority and that he/she must owe their allegiance to truth and morality (5) rather than any political state. The state, as Schulse, contends cannot lay claim to absolutism and divine perfectness without forfeiting it’s right to rule as the very notion of it’s perfectness is imperfect. (6) Such a state would necessarily lay claim to the right to govern not only the bodies but also the minds of it’s subjects exclusively which is a hazardous and Orwellian notion in all respects. The unfolding of Sikh history from the 17th century onwards, then, must be analyzed in the light of the Miri-Piri doctrine in order to grasp the antagonism which the faith-cum-nation has continually displayed towards historic and post-modernist states. The salient facets of Miri-Piri, generically, stipulate that: 1.) The State is self-limited and cannot lay claim to absolute perfectness irrespective of it’s governing model. 2.) The government of any State is Primus inter paras rather than potentate as the subjects of a state are the focal points of all civic authority and not the government itself. (7) 3.) Truth and morality outweigh political prerogative(s). 4.) The State is an expression of power, it’s government the tool to exercise this power. The individual, essentially, is the fount from whence this power originates. Vis-a-vis the Khalsa, the collective body of the Sikhs, the doctrine is more explicit: 1.) The demarcation between State and Faith must be reflected in the set-up of any political entity qua the Sikhs; faith -in this case- means righteousness and when the State digresses from it the Sikhs are to initiate dialog with the powers that be or ,failing that, resort to the sword. Guru Gobind Singh Ji, Nanak X, aptly sums up this principle in his Zafarnamah: ‘When all forms of tolerance and mediation are breached, it is righteous to resort to the sword (force)…’ (8) 2.) The Sikhs, as per their own metalegal charter, must be dealt with impersonally i.e. through the aegis of impersonal law rather than arbitrary self-will. (9) 3.) The State must generically realize that it is a tool and governance is a privilege. The government is Primus inter paras and it should realize that in due course it’s perceptions will clash with those of other civil groups. It cannot lay claim to absolutism, perfectness and/or an individual’s pristine loyalty. (10) 4.) The Khalsa- corporate collective of the Sikh nation- being a body of the pristine, has been bequeathed the sovereignty of both the spiritual and temporal realms. When dealing with it, the State cannot atomize it into singular figures vis-a-vis political policy. (11) Following protracted discussions with Bahadur Shah, the fanatical Aurangzeb’s successor, Guru Gobind Singh Ji initiated the occultist Madho Dass into the Khalsa and re-named him Banda Singh Bahadur. Bahadur, now reformed from his ascetic ways, was dispatched to the Punjab as Commander-In-Chief of the Khalsa forces; his mandate, if put simply, was to avenge the atrocities committed on the Guru’s Sikhs and pave the way for Halemi-Raaj or a just State. Parleys with Bahadur Shah had been blocked by the latter himself who was unwilling to efface his predecessor’s bigoted Shariat policies leading to the realization of the Guru’s above mentioned maxim. (12) Banda Singh and the Khalsa vanguard broke the Mughals’, otherwise, tenacious grip on the Punjab through a protracted guerrilla war in which they were supported by the Punjabi peasantry. In 1710 A.D. a coalition of the Khalsa and the peasantry succeeded in annihilating the Mughal bastion of Sirhind and over-running it. Declaring the commencement of Sikh reign, as a result, the Khalsa minted coins with the herald: ‘Triumphant, the Khalsa asserts it’s sovereignty in both the worlds seen and unseen.’ (13) Weathering a century long persecution, the Sikhs stuck to their guns until they ultimately succeeded in establishing the Halemi-Raaj envisioned by their Gurus. During the darker days of their existence they were offered many respites by their persecutors. The Afghani hordes, lead by Ahmad Shah Durrani, offered them a treaty on condition of them accepting vassalage. Taking affront, the Khalsa blatantly refused and continued it’s crusade against the foreign aggressors. Ratan Singh Bhangu describes the prevailing Sikh spirit thus: ‘…the Khalsa, then, replied: “who has ever bestowed political power for the asking?” There is no meeting ground between the Turks and the Singhs…’ (14) Vassalage was never-and never will be- the Khalsa ideal; full sovereignty is the Khalsa’s aim for the implementation of Halemi-Raaj. The question which naturally emerges, here, is that how does the principle of Miri-Piri correspond with current political setups? Let us analyze the four current political state setups viz the welfare state, the communist state, the modern democratic state and the theocratic state to answer this query. The welfare state, as described by S. Kapur Singh, consists of four elements namely: 1.) Ubiquitous responsibility for providing equal opportunity to all constituents irrespective of prior/present situation(s). (15) 2.) Ubiquitous responsibility for providing equal financial security for the aged, infirm etc. 3.) Ubiquitous responsibility for implementing and collating taxes in order to reduce the margin between the “haves” and “have not’s.” 4.) Ubiquitous responsibility for utilizing all available resources. Welfare, as a political principle, however is a welfare state’s main leverage in imposing upon the individual. When one of the aforementioned elements are accepted, the others naturally follow. (16) This model of state, then, posits a quid pro quo formulation where slavery is the price of security. (17) Once this formulation is placed in the hands of the power-hungry, the subjects are logically rendered apolitical. Welfarism, as a political philosophy, is best summarized by Aristotle in his description of tyranny: ‘the humility of the subjects; the disunity of subjects, and consecutively, the inability of the subjects to unite…’ (18) Nanakianism, though emphasizing universal welfare, differs radically from the current mode of Welfare i.e. the welfare state. True welfare, on an universal scale, cannot be imposed externally but only achieved via the internal transformation of an individual; (19) for this particular reason, Miri-Piri does not correspond with the welfare state. The communist state, seemingly flawless in theory, posits the supremacy of the state vis-a-vis the individual and the latter’s loyalty. Speaking historically, communist states have continually followed a generic trend: 1.) The notions of equality and fairness are translated into the daily economic life of the proletariat. 2.) Complications arise and a governing group arises which captures power. 3.) Eventually falling to corruption, the communist government assumes the mantle of the state and vice versa. 4.) The state-cum-government being the sole master of all economy, all dissent is brutally suppressed. Akin to any other political model, the individual is sacrificed for the good of the government. (20) Owing to it’s swift and logical devolution towards totalitarianism, communism by no means can coexist with Miri-Piri. The modern democratic state, laudable for it’s constitutional principles, is anathema to Miri-Piri as it represents a centralized form of political supremacy i.e. a ‘one man, one vote’ (21) system of governance. Though paying lip service to the rights of minorities, the modern democratic state annuls their very existence by cutting down on their representation vis-a-vis political administration. The recent history of the Sikhs, in independent India, reflects the inherent failings of modern democracy in toto. Outnumbered, the minority is often forcefully subsumed by a bellicose majority with democratic institutions often acting as legal ratifiers of the latter course of action. Owing to it’s basis in the Sikh faith, it is often assumed (mistakenly) that Miri-Piri envisions a theocratic state along the lines of the Islamic caliphate etc. The theocratic state, or political theophany, promulgates the unity of religion as being a prerequisite for the unity and continuity of the state. This unity is achieved on the basis of the motto, cuius regis eius religio or let my ruler’s faith be my faith. (22) Simultaneously, theocracy also emphasizes the salvation of the subject’s soul as it is believed that the true purpose of all political activity is to be found in the next world and not this one. (23) Nanakianism perceives this world as being real thus opposing the very basis of theocracy. Secondly, it does not permit the implementation of cuius regis eius religio as it believes in the freedom of conscience out of which arises an individual’s civic power. The relentless rebellion which the Sikh launched against the Indo-Islamic/Hindu polity, thus, was essentially an attempt at effacing political theophany and undoing the tyranny of the theocratic state. Miri-Piri, if it is to be summarized appositely, emphasizes the socio-spiritual freedom of the individual which is constantly in danger of being suppressed by the state. The Sikh aphorism, baagi or badshah; rebel or ruler is essentially the faith’s answer to all such states who coerce the individual into a subtle slavery of sorts vis-a-vis the continuation of power and the extinction of all non-conformity. A proud people, the Sikhs have rarely tolerated state encroachment on their rights. The maxim Raaj Karega Khalsa not only sums up their principle of dual sovereignty but also acknowledges the prime role which polity plays in the day-to-day life of individuals. As such, any atrophy in the political paradigm can only be arraigned if the individual recognizes his true worth; this is why, then, the Sikhs have continually been a thorn in the sides of all powers who have ever had the misfortune to cross swords with them. Sources: (1) Sri Gur Panth Prakash, vol. i, S. Gurtej Singh (2015); pg. xx-xxi. (2) ASGGS, referenced in Political Attitude of Guru Nanak, Balwant Singh Dhillon; quoted in Journal of Sikh Studies. (3) ASGGS; quoted by Macauliffe, vol. i, pg. 232. (4) Martyrdom in Sikhism, Institute of Sikh Studies (2004); edited by Dr. Kharak Singh, pg. 61-paper presented by Brig-Gen. (retd) Hardit Singh. (5) Singh K; Theo-political Status of Sri Darbar Sahib. Article accessed from Sikhsiyasat.net. (6) Deutsches Staatstecht, vol. i, sec 16; referenced by Singh K in Theo-political Status of Sri Darbar Sahib. (7) Ibid. (8) Zafarnamah, Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. (9) See Singh K; Theo-political Status of Sri Darbar Sahib. (10) Ibid. (11) Ibid. (12) Habib I; Guru Gobind Singh and the Sikhs of the Khalsa: Reports from Bahadur Shah’s Court, 1707-1710.’ (13) Though different historians provide different transliterations, the essence is virtually the same- the Khalsa rules supreme in both the spiritual and temporal realms as represented by the cauldron (charity/spiritualism) and temporality as represented by the sword. (14) Sri Gur Panth Prakash, vol. ii, transliterated by Gurtej Singh, pg. 921. (15) Singh K; Sikhism for the Modern Man, pg. 74-75. (16) Ibid. (17) Ibid, pg. 76. (18) Accessed from http://www2.idehist.uu.se/distans/ilmh/Ren/flor-mach-aristotle-tyrant.htm (19) Sikhism for the Modern Man, pg. 75-76. (20) Ibid. (21) Ibid, pg. 78. (22) Ibid. (23) Ibid. Accessed from: https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/of-miri-and-piri/
  12. WJKK WJKF! This topic I am starting is not to do nindiyah, to fight with anyone or cause anyone disrespect. I am starting this purely due to my personal interest in the Khalistan Movement. Our Shaheeds who spilt blood will be forever remembered, while our brothers in jails and the familes who lost everything are in constantly in my thoughts. Nowadays the movement kind of gets glorified in the UK, I see a lot of people wear tshirts of certain Shaheed Singhs for fashion, image, repping a jathebandi or just to give it large. Whilst we are all aware of certain individuals who were the enemy e.g. indira, rajiv, beantah, gobind ram, gill and co, I would like to know more about those who were classed as our 'own' and sold the movement out. A LOT of lessons need to be learnt here, while I think this needs to be equally be exposed as much as the stories of our brave Shaheed brothers. Like I said before, this topic is not to cause inter-jatha beef, or for people to argue, lets have a discussion where anyone who has been mentioned as a sell out, can be justified for being one too. The kind of people I am interested in are the roles of Wassan Singh Zaffarwal (who I personally think made a massive kurbani prior to surrendering), Mokham Singh, Jasbir Singh Rode, the role of Simranjeet Singh Mann who I know Baba Manochahal was not a fan of, also I would like to more about any Singhs who sold out on their own jatha which resulted in them becoming shaheed, people such as 'Vanchiri' who had Baba Manochahal done, the guy who had Deepa Herawala done etc. Lastly, would be informative to hear views about the ISYF and the stories of them being corrupted and using funds for personal gain. All replies will be appreciated and I look forward to learning more and not arguing with anyone. This topic is for educational purposes only so that we can learn from the mistakes of our elders. A lot of these stories will soon never come to light due to people that know the truth getting older etc. P.S Apologies I know this topic has been touched on before and I have read majority of those before.
  13. Wjkk wjkf. I had a question regarding sant jarnail singh. In many of sant jis speeches he does benti to the sangat that every pind in punjab must have revolvers and a motorcycle. I understand the revolver part because sikhs need to keep shastars, but i do not understand why does every pind need a motorcycle. Can anyone in the sangat please explain this to me. Bulha chuka kehma muaf. Wjkk wjkf
  14. I believe that, in more ways than one, this article might act as a potential eye-opener vis-a-vis the fall of Sikh Raaj. To quote an excerpt: 'The hidebound state which both the Hindu and Islamic doxas’ envision run on the concurrence of the power-wielder and it’s brokers viz. the Brahmin(s) or the Ulama. The socio-legal concepts devised, and implemented, in the Shastras and Shari’a are designed to keep the proletariat in check from whom the danger of mutiny is ever-constant. To shatter this inimical nexus of Babur (the state) and Bipar (religious hypocrisy), Guru Nanak Dev Ji laid the ideological foundations of the Khalsa which were later made manifest by his nine successors. On his deathbed, in 1708 A.D., the tenth Nanak enjoined the Khalsa to ‘march towards stability and enduring prosperity by renouncing dogmatic traditionalism and the writ of any sacerdotal class…’ (17) The Sikh Gurus, doubtless, were well aware of the sub-continental past. Empire after empire had followed one another to the grave and politico-religious oppression had confined the proletariat to the merciless whims of his superiors. Political impermanence had arisen out of either theocracy or Caesaropapism relegating many a kingdom to oblivion. The medieval epoch, in the sub-continental context, was marked by the rise and fall of various polities namely the Maurya and Gupta empires; the Harsha empire confined to the north; the Pala empires in Bengal and Behar and so forth. (18) With the Khalsa being inherently equal, the birth of any sacerdotal class was well arrested whilst a quasi-democratic outlook was bequeathed to the body vis-a-vis it’s political approach. The question remains, was this outlook ever implemented?' https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2017/06/06/raj/
  15. Approx 250 Sikh dharam fauji's who vowed to fight to the death with their sikh brothers in arms with just their turbans and clothes for armour and lightly armed defending the darbar sahib golden temple vs 100,000 enemy brahminwad neo-mughul Indian troops with sophisticated weaponry, Kevlar bullet and blast proof armour and commando trained Elite soldiers. Our kaum's brave lions may have all lost their lives defending our Guru's home but they gave the enemy one hell of a beating. And thus their Indian terrorist operation blue star, their destruction of thousands of Sikh life and Sri Akal Takht laid the foundation stone and for the fight for Khalistan.
  16. Just when Sikhs thought they were relatively safe in "Hindustan" in 2017 then this happens. Evil Hindu extremists caught brutally attacking Sikhs in chainpura, rajashtan.
  17. Referendum 2020

    I would like to know some of your thoughts on Referendum 2020, I recently seen youtube videos of Protests spreading awareness and even a Protest in India, on their main website Indian Protesters are getting beaten up severely, and now it seems that Referendum 2020 is getting noticed as I seen Posters in my local gurdwara. I doubt that in 3 years Khalistan will be made, there would be many internal disputes to be resolved first, what would the Government be made up, the laws, the police and the military, the trade, the Punjab Water crisis, currency and etc. https://www.youtube.com/user/maansingh25 http://www.referendum2020.org/
  18. The SYL canal issue is huge as punjabs waters are vital for the state's economy and day to day life. If water is diverted to other states like haryana as they have been done for rajaestan for free then only punjab and punjabis will be the loosers. Punjabi's wont allow this and if the federal government in delhi enforces violence and bloodshed on protesters blocking the digging of a canal then violence will probably be met by violence eventually which in turn could lead to radialisation of Sikhs again and pakistan ready to create mischief by providing arms for north Indians to fight amount each other.
  19. How would those in Punjab (remembering there are Hindus, Muslims, Christians too) vote as a percent of Yes vs No? If NRI Sikhs were to vote, how would it compare by country, e.g. UK, USA, Canada, Italy?
  20. Seeing the failure of simranjeet mann to get elected or get any decent voter turn out in various elections. It is high time he stepped aside and let a populist Sikh pro-khalistan leader come on to the scene and take charge. We are in a world where politics are being shifted on their head and nationalist movements and leaders are coming to power like in the west. We have seen Sikhs of punjab are very pro-khalistan even after many genocides and schemes by the state to silence them by fear, they still come out in huge numbers such as rajoana protest and sarbat khalsa 2015. So it is up to the Sikh leaders to put aside their ego's and come on one platform and fight for the panth. We know badals are dogs who are only interested in hindustan and punjabiyat, they dont see votes in Sikh causes any more. But as brexit has proved the votes are still there its just there needs to be enough motivation, awareness and anger from the people to rise up against the status quo and change the system by electing a pro-khalistan party, who will have a democratic and political mandate to create a Khalistan.
  21. Traitors in the Panth

    Some exceptional excerpts from a rare interview with Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Manochahl (BTFK):- Q. Is there any hope of the militants joining Akali leaders? A. Frankly Akali Dal leaders are irrelevant and most of them want the militants to be exterminated. Those who speak for us, do it only out of for fear of the bullet. Q. But Simranjit Singh Mann has been speaking for the militants. A. Mann is mentally bankrupt and keeps contradicting himself, which could be due to his torture in jail. I have met him and I have been disappointed. His bankruptcy is indicated by the people in his group. One of them sells opium and another used to refer to Sant Bhindranwale as a Chambal dacoit and Congress(I) agent. Yet Mann claims to uphold the ideals of Sant Bhindranwale. He thinks no end of himself just because he spent four years in jail. Read more at: https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/11/05/from-the-killing-fields/
  22. Sikh State-hood.

    https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/of-bhindranwales-war/ 'The present day Sikh disillusionment with Indian politics, and their ever expanding anger in the Punjab, is a portent sign of events yet to manifest. Astute observers have often noted that the Punjab, in North India, has always been a hotbed of passion and political variation. Stretching back to the days of the initial Aryan Invasions, the residents of Punjab have often manifested a distinct and divergent course of action from that of their counterparts. (8) The Sikhs, a product of this turmoil, have only recently in the 80’s lead a deadly and crushing militancy which attempted to sunder the nation. The callous attitude adopted towards their demands, and the present day attempts to suppress their voice in the world’s largest democracy threatens to re-ignite the militancy of the 80’s and this time in a more volatile form. It would do well for the incumbent mandarins of the modern Indian state, and their regional cronies, to leaf through a few pages of Sikh history and understand that despite being oppressed the Sikhs can never be effaced. Those who have attempted to do so have been repaid back in their own coin. Whether Islamic rulers, representing the best spirit of their Prophet, or Hindu Caste Supremacists; all have fallen before the sword of the Khalsa and it’s current dormancy does not necessarily indicate it’s defeat.'
  23. Or our todays sikhs to weak in sikhi to be able to handle there own country In punjab today sikhs elect corrupt poliicians an accept corrupt practises. How would khalistan change that I wish people focused on strengthening the sikh faith by educating the younger generation about sikhi an raising a generation of smart saint soldiers before we can focus n khalistan Its like people want to skip steps.2 to.9 an jump.straight to step 10 If punjab is strong in sikh faith then corruption would collapse If people are weak in sikhi an given a khalistan it would collapse
  24. If you came across a Sikh and a non-sikh in india who is skeptical about khalistan and wondering why they would need it. What would be your arguments to convience them yes an independent khalistan is a good idea as opposed to them living in the Indian union? India is a major world power now and has a space program. It has long established trade, diplomatic and military ties with countries around the world. The simple and generic argument that sikhs need a country are not really going to help deliver results. People need to know economically they would be better of and how, their rights protected and how, their daily daal roti protected and how, their security protected and how,etc.