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  1. WGJKK WGJKF Hello, I am coming here for honest opinions. I feel the members of my gurdwara would feel uncomfortable speaking openly about this subject, and I don't wish to make them uncomfortable as I haven't been studying long. I am a 25 year old white American who is very interested in Sikhi. I have only recently begun my path of discovery, and would want to spend an absolute minimum of one year (probably longer) meditating, reading gurbani, doing seva, and properly understanding Sikh philosophy before concerning myself with the five K's. However, I do feel I will eventually get to the point of sufficient devotion to feel comfortable identifying myself as Sikh, and would begin to explore wearing the turban. I will reevaluate at that time, and discuss the issue earnestly with members of the gurdwara, but I would like to hear anonymous opinions about this now. I just can't help but feel it might be seen as silly, rude, or offensive for a white person to wear a turban. I know at the end of the day, my relationship with the guru is what is most important, but the communities opinion is something to consider. I also want to simply be prepared for the reactions I might receive. How do you view a white person wearing a turban (regardless of how sihki says you should feel)? How do you think the Indian community at large views this matter? Finally, what are your opinions on keeping kesh, but not wearing a turban? I feel this may be an appropriate intermediate point, but I don't wish to offend. I know the head should be covered, but anything other than the turban looks too sloppy for an adult at work to wear. Kesh tied in a joora also looks sloppy, yes, but I feel a sloppy head covering conveys a worse image than uncovered kesh. This is only my opinion, however, and I admit I could easily be wrong. Thank you for your time and opinions. Feel free to speak openly, any negative feelings are completely understandable to me.
  2. Bhagat Kabir Ji writes on Ang. 1365 of Adhi Guru Granth Sahib, "Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald." What does Kabirji mean here, and more specifically, why would this be included in Shri Adhi Guru Granth Sahib? The Khalsa is instructed to wear unshorn kesh, but Bhagat Kabir Ji seems to say that is not relevant in merging with God.....then what's the point of being keshadhari? Blessings, Bhagat Singh PS: Neither Bhagat Jayadeva nor Bhagat Namdev wore unshorn kesh, and many other bhagats (including Kabirji himself) are rumoured not to have. What is up with that?
  3. WKWF. As most of you would have seen on-line unfortunately allot of SIkh's end up having their Kesh pulled etc when involved in an altercation. Long Kesh also makes it hard to see and protect yourself. Personally I use two large clips to pin down my Kesh under my Dastaar. This was the Kesh always remain fully intact and away from the face/eyes and can not be easily pulled. Just wanted to share useful this tip with the sangat as their is nothing worse than seeing a Singh being pulled around by their Kesh. I am sure others have their own ways, however I have found the above to be by far the best for me.
  4. WJKK WJKF Sangat ji, Yesterday my upper thigh was bleeding and a band aid wouldn't stick on the wound. So, I took a towel paper and used it as a gauze. To hold it down, I took medical tape and taped around my leg to hold the gauze in place. Later on that night, when I went to remove the tape. I lost some hair where the tape was. Would I need to be pesh in front of the 5 pyare or is asking maharaaj for forgiveness through ardaas enough because I didn't see any other option at the time?
  5. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Is it possible to take Amrit whilst you are still in the process of growing your kesh and dhari? I have been told that it is down to the discretion of the Panj Piyare carrying out the ceremony. I stopped cutting my hair over a month ago and it is still pretty short (about 2 inches) and my beard is only about a cm long at the moment. There is an Amrit Sanchar taking place near me in about a weeks time and I am a bit nervous because of this. I know it would make sense to wait but what if I get hit by a bus tomorrow? I'm not really willing to wait another 9.4 million lifetimes to get another chance. Is there anyone out there that took Amrit who was in the same situation as me? If so what happened at your Amrit Sanchar ceremony? Were you allowed to go ahead with it?. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks Deep Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  6. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I wanted to know if someone can take Amrit whilst they are still growing their kesh and dhari. I was told it was down to the discretion of the Panj Piyare carrying out the ceremony, however it is quite scary turning up on the day not knowing what they will say. There is an Amrit Sanchar taking place in a weeks time near me but I've only been growing my hair for about 2 months and it's only about an inch long at the moment. My dhari is about 1 cm long right now. I know the answer would be to wait till it grows but what if something happens to me before I can take Amrit. I'm not really prepared to wait millions of lifetimes to get my chance again. So is there anyone here who was or is in a similar situation? What happened? Were you allowed to take part in the ceremony? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Deep Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  7. WJKK WJKF Sangat ji, yesterday I was bleeding from my upper thigh and band-aid would not stick on the wound. So, I took a paper towel and used it as a gauze, and taped it in place around my thigh. Later on during the night when I tried to remove it. Some of my hair came off due to the tape. Do I need to get pesh in front of the panj pyare? Or asking maharaj for forgiveness because i didn't see any other option at the time is enough? All responses are much appreciated.
  8. What is Sangat's opinion ....
  9. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki Fateh I need help in tying my kesh (very long) before making a dastaar. Currently my mom ties a joorha & patka on my head but for a long time coming I want to start tying a dastaar. One major obstacle for me is preparing my kesh before making a dastaar. I've tried making a dastaar with the joorha my mom ties, but it sticks out of the dastaar and makes it look very awkward on my head. Tying a bunga also does not solve the problem. I'm very depressed and was wondering if anybody has any suggestions.
  10. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh A sister wants to cut her Kesh, her brother posted his question on this website I would appreciate if the sangat can help give her adivce. If you can't post directly on there, I can copy and past your answers on that website. Waheguru
  11. I am a child convert to Sikhi about roughly 1-year-ago. Now I want to keep my kesh and my parents force me to get my hair cut. Technically, I could just sit in place and not get into the car to go to the barbershop, but they treat me different and my life will become a living Hell. The Khalsa way is to explain it to them.I've tried but they say, "this is too far...and you are only cannot grow out your hair". What can I do? I know the power is in God's hands, but I still don't know what to do. Please help blessed Khalsa Panth Ji! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
  12. **Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh** Link to original question Satsangat Ji, a brother needs help on another forum which isn't that active. He says he is fed up and want to cut his hair and even might commit suicide. **Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh** His question: Please forgive me if i missed to cut out any swear words.
  13. vjkk vjkf, I'm 15 years old and I'm starting to grow a beard, I'm the only person in my family besides my younger brother who keeps his kesh and beard. My hair is only on the sides of my head and under my chin right now and is about an inch or two long. One of my friends gave me gel to keep it down, I don't know if I should use it though. Any feedback would be good. Thanks.
  14. Guys, I have noticed that I have got shorter hair on my head compared to others which have got more longer hair nearly reaching their feet. Im so embarrassed of my short hair, please please please help me get longer hair
  15. Gurfatehji, I am keshadhari but I am not amritdhari. I would like to know if we, Sikhs, can straighten our hair. As I know, we cannot cut our hair or dye it. What about straightening it? Is it allowed? If no, please provide a reference or evidence so that I can understand more. Thank you in advance.
  16. Why are the youths of today cutting their beards and kesh ??? Please explain openly ! Really wanna hear your thoughts.
  17. WGJKK WGJKF I am still new to Sikhism, and I'm not sure when to begin keeping kesh. For a bit of information - I come from a Hasidic Jewish background, which is where I gained my idea of what/who God is. At its heart, the panentheistic idea of God is the same in Judaism and Sikhi. But Judaism is very ritual based, and I don't want to fall prey to the idea that ritual = connection to Waheguru. I know this is only obtained through proper meditation and action, and I don't want to fall back into a Jewish mindset. That said, I feel my background has given me the ability to readily understand and accept the importance of kesh. As you know, Hasidic men keep their beards completely uncut for spiritual reasons, so it wasn't a stretch in my mind to apply this to the hair on my head as well. It makes logical sense. I feel I understand the importance of kesh, but I would like the opinions of others so that I can feel comfortable it isn't my ego talking. An outside perspective is always helpful when deciding matters such as this. My worry, is that I have only been studying sikhi and reading gurbani for one month. I don't want to adopt an outward symbol of my beliefs if it could lead to problems with my ego finding spiritual fulfillment in the physical. There is also the issue of if I keep kesh, it seems most appropriate to cover it with a turban. Like the poster here yesterday, I don't think I would feel comfortable doing this for several years. I would want my actions and understanding of Sikhi to be aligned properly. At the same time, I no longer feel comfortable cutting my hair. I feel a little lost. So, what is your opinion? I have read, and read, and read everything on Sikhi I can find on the internet, and I am nearly done reading a translation of the SGGS. Is one month of study too soon to adopt one of the five K's? Could I be placing too much emphasis on the physical? Perhaps that last question is one only I could answer, but I appreciate opinions nonetheless.
  18. WJKK WJKF When we are using hands to make beard neater or some ppl just have bad habit of playing with their If a hair comes out when you pull hard BY MISTAKE is this is a kurehit? Please advise. Thanks,
  19. someone said that in Sikhi it does not matter if you keep kesh as Guru Granth Sahib says the following: ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਇਕ ਸਿਉ ਕੀਏ ਆਨ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ Kabīr parīṯ ik si▫o kī▫e ān ḏubiḏẖā jā▫e. Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. ਭਾਵੈ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਰੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਘਰਰਿ ਮੁਡਾਇ ॥੨੫॥ Bẖāvai lāʼnbe kes kar bẖāvai gẖarar mudā▫e. ||25|| You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. ||25|| can you assist with a counter argument, maybe a Thuk from Guru Granth Sahib ?
  20. WJKK WJKF I am 25 years and started keeping my kesh, and I have been working at the same office for many years as a non keshdhari... now I want to start tying gol dastar to work as I plan to take amrit soon.. I am just feeling a bit nervous of all the looks i might get.. and same thing goes outside of work... sort of nervous of looks from my family... :blush2: Going to get a lot of looks and negative questions I bet... I have been wearing dastar outside to shopping and stuff, and i noticed alot of non-keshdhari punjabi ppl stop and stare more than before! Any advice ? bhul chak maaf WJKK WJKF
  21. Im a skih and have been brought up to cut my hair and beard. although my dad doesnt approve of this i would like to keep my hair. if i start growing it now will it have any effect if i plan to take amrit or in general as a sikh thanks all for help waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
  22. Vikramdeep Johal Hindustan Times April 08, 2013 The barber's mirror is heartless. And nearly hairless. It shows me a bald patch that's rapidly grabbing "prime land" on my head. The dwindling vegetation reminds me of the days of luxuriant growth, when I possessed long hair that snaked their way down to the waist. I had just entered the tricky teens and was fast developing extracurricular interest in the opposite sex. Like most other Sikh students in my class (ours was a boys school), I presumed that girls didn't like fellows who sported a 'joora' (hair bun) and tied the 'patka'. It seemed that the only way I could get a girlfriend was to go under the scissors and come up with a stylish hairdo. Those were the days of terrorism in Punjab, when virtually every turbaned and bearded Sikh youth was looked at with suspicion by the police. Some were harassed and hounded by cops, while others met a worse fate. The fear factor drove many youngsters to the barber's shop for an "identity makeover". But with no turban and a barely sprouting beard, I lacked a pressing reason to go for a haircut. My brother, five years elder, set the stage for me, though he was unaware of my intentions. One fine day, he quietly came home, barely recognisable in a neat crew cut. My parents were too shocked to say anything, and an oppressive silence hung over the house for several days. However, deep down I was chuckling, for my job seemed to be more than half done. I waited for the dust to settle and then broached the subject with my gentler parent. Mother was quite livid, but I reminded her that a precedent had been set. Making the clinching argument, I told her that unlike my brother, I had the decency to ask for her permission. Reluctantly, she gave her nod, but with the rider that I keep it a hush-hush affair and bring back the rich crop of hair so lovingly nurtured by her over the years. Wasting no time, I pedalled for dear life to the salon. As the scissors went snipping, I felt a twinge of regret, as if a part of myself had been lost forever. However, my new avatar quickly made amends for all the uneasiness. I duly brought home the "mortal remains", wrapped in the last 'patka' I ever wore. Father didn't talk to me for a few days, but eventually he took it all in his stride. As for the girls, they didn't even bother. I was just another Sikh boy who had taken the extreme step. My hair rotted away in the cupboard for a couple of years, before being tossed unceremoniously into the trash can. And today, more than two decades later, I miss them like never before.
  23. I recently broke my kangha wand was wondering if I should cremate it. And if so how?
  24. Hello, can anybody tell me how to tie a FIGHT PROOF dastaar for martial arts like kick boxing , thai boxing etc ... How do I tie it the best so it hardly get loose or fell off? Furthermore I would prefer to make thejura in the back , because if someone hits the joora , the pulling is too hard... Please some input and serious help.
  25. I am not against Hindus but I need to point out to you how just about all of them believe Sikhi is part of Hinduism. Below are the points they always, always raise in a debate. 1.) Hindus wear janeu, Sikhs kirpan. There is no difference. (This is a recent one). 2.) Because a majority of Hindus became Sikhs it must mean Sikhs are Hindus. 3.) Neo-Nazi Sikhs have changed shabds in Gurbani to suit themselves. (This is where Singh Sabha is slagged off). 4.) Guru Sahib used names of Hindu Gods and Godesses in Gurbani. This means Sikhs are Hindu. (They are getting quite creative with this mean. Bhagauti is supposed to be Bhagwati in Hindi now). I know there are many veers on this forum who could answer this stupidness in their sleep, but I am thinking about creating a whole team to smash their arguments to pieces. Off course their mentality will not let them accept the truth of what we say. Maybe a few blogs, facebook pages can be set up. Social media goes a long way nowdays.