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  1. Some more Home Truths

    Re: the 'Meat Shop opening next to Gurdwara' thread on the main There are 2 issues here; The first is that we are gonna have to get used to some very real issues coming our way during the next decade. Whats coming our way is entirely of our own making and the next generation will look back at our mistakes of today and wonder how we could have been so short-sighed, ignorant and ill-informed. Whats happening and will continue to happen in places like Southall and Handsworth is that there are 20 times more Gurdwaras than are needed. To constantly open more and more Gurdwaras in inner-city residential neighbourhoods based on Sikh demographics of the 1960's whilst simultaneously ignoring the fact that old Sikh families of Southall and Handsworth are now mostly and increasingly found in the commuter belt of Surrey, Berkshire, Warwickshire and Staffordshire is blatantly asking for trouble in the future. Today the problem might be 'meat shops' but it doesn't take a genius to foresee how the same fate that befell Christian churches will also fall on our too many gurdwaras when they are all situated in areas where Sikhs no longer live. The second point to remember is that unlike Canada and America etc we do not have zoning laws etc. Our history - mirrored in the history of the English language - is for residential streets to contain a haphazard mixture of places of worship, pubs, schools, clubs, meat shops, police stations and electricity sub-stations. The fact that members of our community decided to open a Gurdwara where for hundreds of years pubs, cigarettes and meat have been sold does not give them the right to dicatate what they would like to be sold nearby. If what is sold nearby is an issue for them they should have picked a more suitable location in the first place. The fact that members of our community decided to open a Gurdwara in a neighbourhood that is now majority black Jamaican and Muslim they can't now tell the local population they can't have a meat shop nearby when that local population love their meat and want a meat shop. Our problems today are of our own making , i.e our badly-educated short-sighted outlook of yesteryear and today. Re; the 'Jagsaw's Thread: An Apology' thread on the main page: Apology accepted. None of that changes the fact however that we Sikhs need to understand how debate and discussion is not the same as arguing. Debate and discussion is vital to human development. It opens and expands our mind and enables us to think critically. This nasty habit in our community of stifling debate and equating it with anti-Sikh activity is already having a terrible negative effect on us intellectually with Hindus reaching the very top of society and hijab wearing Muslim females now increasingly taking up great positions in the fields of medicine and law leaving our religious with a terrible reputation of a badly educated community. To constantly cry "close this thread.....close that thread" every single time a remotely interesting discussion takes place on this 'discussion forum' is directly related to our national stereotype of a people lacking intellectual capability.
  2. As everyone reads Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and believe that it is true. Here is a line from a shabad of GURU GRANTH SAHIB " ਬਾਦੁ ਬਿਬਾਦੁ ਕਾਹੂ ਸਿਉ ਨ ਕੀਜੈ ॥ ਰਸਨਾ ਰਾਮ ਰਸਾਇਨੁ ਪੀਜੈ ॥੨॥" so why do we discuss a lot rather than meditating? Your views. My view is meditation is most emphasized in Guru Granth Sahib ji.
  3. Going through my daily Sikhi updates I found this Q&A - (Query) I am a black girl. My bf is Sikh and we have been together for 4 years. Recently an incident happened to him and he thought he was goin to die of AIDS cos a junkies blood accidentally splashed inthis eye. He went into overkill and would not let me close to him thinking I may catch something. I should mention he is a hypochondriac. Anyway he kinda got over that paranoia of death but he banned us having sex. Slowly slowly he was shutting me out and seemed to spend his whole time praying going temple etc. last week he dumped me and says he wants us to be friends! ...are you kidding me. We can't be friends. I am feeling ok at the moment kinda but I know I will feel really bad when the reality sinks it. Does anyone have a view on this or in similar situation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Answer) He just wanted an excuse to end things it sounds like. He either met someone else or just was over it all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- (OP) You could be right. On both counts he even did it via text. he was actually taking medication cos of his paranoia that he caught something but it was too extreme. He even got depress and has been of work for close to two months now. I dunno I feel in limbo. I don't even fancy him anymore cos he has grown a full beard due to going all religious. I think I have been dumped for religion....
  4. This thread is started for explanations regarding the bachans in "Anmol Bachans" thread @ http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/71139-anmol-bachans/page-2 Kindly be polite in the posts. We are here only to discuss, not to condemn or force anyone to follow others. Any doubts on the above link can be discussed in this thread. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic : "Parmeshar Bhagta vich vasda hai" Many people object this bachan by Sant Baba Harnam Singh ji Rampurkhera that rab sirf bhagta vich nahin sab vich vasda hai, ....no doubt..... and mahapurkhs bachan has not denied this fact. What is the difference between bhagat, sant, mahapurkh, fakir etc and the normal people like us? Bhagats etc remains calm in all situations, whereas we shake at every point Bhagats are immersed in bhagti 24/7 even when they are doing chores, and we know where we stand Bhagats never wish for anyone's bad, and we are always ready to fight and point out at others Bhagats can sacrifice whatever they have for others without any kind of discrimination, and we can't even bear a look of our enemy and full of selfishness and jealous, always trying to prove others wrong and see our joy in others failures In all above situations, God dwells in both parties, but why normal people can't be like bhagats etc who have more qualities than them? The answer is because Bhagats are admired as they have not only known but experienced God within themselves and others, whereas we only have this piece of knowledge that God is in everyone. So when one wonders why Bhagat is different from normal people, they ask them why and how can they experience God and become bhagats themselves. Bhagat is just a word to describe person with high spiritual level who have attained God by doing virtues and meditating on HIS name. Bhagats motivate others to do simran and sewa. And that's what we do here always looking for motivation to move ahead in sikhi path.