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Hello all ,I would like to tackle the issue of casteism and how we can realistically stop caste based discrimination. Firstly, how does anyone know what caste they themselves are or the caste of anyone else. In the surname. We can never do away with these surnames BUT we can try disattach stigmatism attached to them e.g get rid of reservation, get rid of caste based gurdwaras, censor information on internet’s about castes, boycott and protest media (songs and movies etc) promoting caste pride and even take surname Singh/Kaur. Secondly we must stop demonising, making fun of, or promoting caste (which I have seen plenty of on this forum). Even today I’ve seen some posts from a user called JKV LONDON blaming everything on Brahmins and brahmanical rule and I’m thinking it’s quite similar to the way people demonise Jews . Sure there were some bad Brahmins ,but there were good and we can’t categorise a whole community. There were bad Brahmins like gangu who was a snake and there were good Brahmins like Mati das and Sati das who gave their lives for the Sikh Dharam despite coming from the ‘fanatical corrupt cowardly Brahmin community ‘. Surely this shows that no community can be generalised and criticised and we shouldn’t take about certain communities in I’ll manners and we certainly shouldn’t be talking about caste at all because it is supposed to be irrelevant and banned in Sikh faith Now to separate caste gurdwaras. This is a very hard issue because the Ravidassia community have become a separate religion with distinct temples BUT the best we can do is act with unity and not hatred and try to bring our communities back closer together and work to overcome our differences. We must also make sure ‘higher caste’ Sikhs don’t discriminate against so called ‘lower caste sikhs’ in terms of commitees, maybe we should even get rid of committees - they never had them in the old days back in India did they?All committees and elections in gurdwaras do is cause problems. Now to caste promoting media. This is tough because it’s so wide spread. We must educate our people to BOYCOTT caste based artists and songs and movies and forget their caste identities as we are all the same people THERE IS NO GENETIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CASTES , THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE OCCUPATION OF OUR ANCESTORS -which is irrelevant anyway. WE MUST NOT BELIEVE PROPOGANDA ABOUT CASTE GENETICS. There are more issues but I’m sure we can discuss them below. And sorry about this , I’m not trying to embarrass anyone but just educate. JKV LONDON and many others - please stop demonising and promoting certain castes. Thank you all WJKK WJKF