Jump to content

Search the Community

Showing results for tags '3ho'.



More search options

  • Search By Tags

    Type tags separated by commas.
  • Search By Author

Content Type


Forums

  • GENERAL
    • WHAT'S HAPPENING?
    • GUPT | ANONYMOUS
    • GURBANI | SCRIPTURES | REHAT | HISTORY
  • COMMUNITY
    • POLITICS | MEDIA | FEEDBACK | LIFESTYLE
    • HEALTH | FITNESS | DIET
    • Agree to Disagree
  • MEDIA
  • SEWADARS

Found 14 results

  1. Notice the gora 3Ho sikh trying to shut up the protest, first threatening arrest, then surrounding him and even putting hands on him and one buddi starts hitting him
  2. The use of mantras

    WJKK WJKF I have a question about this mantra. https://www.3ho.org/kundalini-yoga/mantra/kundalini-yoga-mantras/mantra-toolkit-chattra-chakkra-varti It is the last part of jaap sahib. I stumbled across it on YouTube and began researching the meaning. I'm a little torn. Should a sikh be taking snippets of bani and using them as a mantra (apologies for lack of a better word)? These are the words of our guru so reciting them can't be bad right? I am not a 3ho person nor do I understand a great deal about them. I hope my question makes sense. please forgive me for any mistakes I have made. WJKK WJKF
  3. Yoga Fanatics

    Once again 3HO are at it trying to justify their practices of yoga. Through an article written by Harjinder Singh Khalsa, the claim is yoga (posture, breathing, mudras and mental techniques), specifically kundalini yoga aids the mind to where the person is able to focus on Shabad Guru. This sounds very innocent and some are probably fooled by it too. Let me rephrase, a lot of Punjabi Sikhs are fooled by this teaching of 3HO. Harjinder Singh Khalsa tries his best to make a case for 3HO. 3HO have been sought after because they make many wild claims. They use numerology to name one manmat practice. Yet some Sikhs like Harjinder Singh Khalsa feel 3HO are being targeted for no reason. I'm start off with what Harjinder Singh Khalsa says, yoga does not lead to mukti. This is very true and yet he goes off on a tanget and says kundalini is approved in Gurbani to help aid the mind for meditating on Gurbani. From Harjinder Singh Khalsa article it is evident he does not have the knowledge to interpret Gurbani or he intentionally went with an English translation that will sway his reader to approve of kundalini yoga as an aid. Or he's lazy and did not check with credible sources on interpreting Gurbani. On ang 909 Satguru is speaking about what is the true way to achieve mukti. Satguru directly speaks to yogis and their false show of being holy, they have lost the plot and don't know how to achieve mukti. Harjinder Singh Khalsa at the beginning of the article accuses others of not presenting shabads in the correct manner, who speak against yoga. But Harjinder Singh Khalsa leaves this line out when quoting ang 909. jogI jugiq gvweI hMFY pwKMif jogu n pweI ]10] ਜੋਗੀ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਗਵਾਈ ਹੰਢੈ ਪਾਖੰਡਿ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਪਾਈ ॥੧੦॥ jogee jugat gavaae'ee handdai paakhandd jog na paae'ee ||10|| (ਹੇ ਸੰਤ ਜਨੋ! ਧਾਰਮਿਕ ਭੇਖ ਦੇ) ਪਖੰਡ ਨਾਲ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦਾ ਮਿਲਾਪ ਹਾਸਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦਾ; (ਜਿਹੜਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਨਿਰਾ ਇਸ ਪਖੰਡ ਵਿਚ ਪਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ, ਉਸ) ਜੋਗੀ ਨੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ-ਮਿਲਾਪ ਦੀ ਜੁਗਤੀ (ਹੱਥੋਂ) ਗਵਾ ਲਈ ਹੈ, ਉਹ (ਵਿਅਰਥ) ਭਟਕਦਾ ਫਿਰਦਾ ਹੈ ।੧੦। Yogi, you have lost the Way; you wander around confused. Through hypocrisy, Yoga is not attained. ||10|| Harjinder Singh Khalsa went out of his way to accuse others, but get's caught in his own arrogances. He quotes ang 909 to say the following: siv nagaree mehi aasan baisai gur sabadhee jog paaee ||11|| Sitting in Yogic postures in the City of God, through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, you shall find Yoga. ||11|| dhhaathur baajee sabadh nivaarae naam vasai man aaee ||12|| Restrain your restless wanderings through the Shabad, and the Naam will come to dwell in your mind. ||12|| (Guru Amar Das J; GGSJ: 909) When I went on Sikhitothemax.com, I found the same translation into English on their site. Whoever did these translations did a horrible job of representing the Guru. The line in bold tells a lot about the person who did the translations. "Siv nagaree" is being translated as "city of God". Here the word "Siv" is referring to the devta Shiva as the Hindu God. Yet the translator refuses to say shiva and writes God. For whatever reason the translator refuses to do a literal translation for this first part. But then for the second part of the tuk, the translator has no problem doing a literal translation of "mehi aasan baisai"....."sitting in yogic postures". You can't have it both ways, when it comes to translating. It's one or the other; be literal or describe the allegory. Anyone reading this translation will be completely misdirected as Harjinder Singh Khalsa. So how should this be translated. We know from other Shabads, Shiva is not seen as Vaheguru and is not to be taken as the Guru either. Therefore a literal translation of the line is not correct. To translate "mehi aasan baisai" literally to suit a person's agenda will not be happening here. Neither will "Siv nagaree" be translated to promote someone else's agenda. "Siv nagaree" in Gurmat is speaking about dasam dwar. A Sikh in the dasam dwar is to "mehi aasan baisai" which means to gain focus. On what do we gain focus on in the dasam dwar? Guru's Shabad and the end result is Jog (not yoga). Jog means union with Vaheguru. So here is the whole line together: siv nagaree mehi aasan baisai gur sabadhee jog paaee ||11|| In the dasam dwar focus on the Guru's Shabad and gain union with Vaheguru. Here is another translation in Punjabi below. Those who can read Punjabi can see, "siv nagaree" is being translated as sadh sangat and "mehi aasan baisai" is translated as focused on Guru Shabad. isv ngrI mih Awsix bYsY gur sbdI jogu pweI ]11] ਸਿਵ ਨਗਰੀ ਮਹਿ ਆਸਣਿ ਬੈਸੈ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਜੋਗੁ ਪਾਈ ॥੧੧॥ siv nagaree mahi aasaN baisai gur sabadhee jog paae'ee ||11|| (ਹੇ ਸੰਤ ਜਨੋ! ਜਿਹੜਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਵਿਚ ਜੁੜਦਾ ਹੈ, ਉਸ ਨੇ) ਗੁਰ-ਸ਼ਬਦ ਦੀ ਬਰਕਤ ਨਾਲ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ-ਮਿਲਾਪ ਹਾਸਲ ਕਰ ਲਿਆ ਹੈ, ਉਹ ਜੋਗੀ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਵਿਚ ਟਿਕਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ (ਮਾਨੋ) ਆਸਣ ਉਤੇ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ ।੧੧। When you look up Bhai Sahib Singh translation in Punjabi, he translates exactly the same as the Punjabi translation above So at this point we have achieved the goal to say yoga, kundalini yoga postures are not promoted in Gurbani. There is more to say on this article written by Harjinder Singh Khalsa, but I will have to save it for another day. I have added the link to Harjinder Singh Khalsa article below. https://www.sikhnet.com/news/yoga-sikhism
  4. Nidar Busted Again.

    I shared this with several pages on facebook, and share it again on this forum as well. Nidar, the Lost Sikh Warrior, has now fled to Germany after divorcing his wife. His personal affairs his own, the main reason for his departure is probably the fact that his shop has closed down in UK. We all remember how several Nihungs, who he asserted were supportive of his dancing style-cum-"martial art," went on video and refuted his claims. Whilst surfing the net, I chanced upon some of his prior fallacies: "Baba Mohan Singh was unanimously elected as his (Giani Gurbachan SIngh Ji's) rightful successor to Samparda Bhindra. Why else would he still have control of the original shrines and lands at Bhindra established by Baba Sundar Singh?" http://www.<banned site filter activated>/htmls/article_samparda_kartar2.html Giani Ji's own views: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Gurbachan_Singh_(Bhindran_wale)/Sant.Gurbachan.Singh--Passing.Taksal's.Mukh.Sewa.to.Sant.Kartar.Singh.mp3 His website is full of mendacious propaganda. To clear up some his falsities regarding Baba Santa Singh: "Niddar Singh has propagated the myth that as per the elder Singhs of the Budha-Dal, it was Baba Santa Singh Ji who acquired land for Giani Kartar Singh Ji Bhindranwale to construct the Chowk Mehta Branch of Damdami Taksal upon. Who these Singhs are he fails to mention. The Singhs we have approached substantiate (yes, they actually substantiate) that Giani Kartar Singh Ji became Jathedar of Taksal in '61. Baba Santa SIngh Ji became Jathedar of the Budha-Dal in '69. During '61 Baba Ji was in Ludhiana, conducting Amrit Sanchaars and there is no record of him ever having visited the original Taksali H.Q. let alone interfering in it's affairs."
  5. 3ho?

    Why hasn't anyone stopped 3HO from doing all of their manmat? If someone is new to Sikhi wouldn't that soul get permanently lost or extremely delayed in their journey to Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's message going to these people?
  6. Tantric Yoga?

    Could anyone please explain to me what Tantric Yoga is? The reason I asked on this Forum is because on the 3HO website I know there will be a biased. I wanted to know, why exactly do people do it? It looks disrespectful and bad from what I saw from Gursant Singh.
  7. There was a question ask to basicsofSikhi creators yesterday on the folowing site. http://ask.fm/basicsofsikhi The question arose because of the unclear response basicsofsikhi gave, when asked what they think of 3HO cult? The question further elaborates on what he considers to be 3HO practices and how aware he is of Yogi Bhajan's creation, 3HO. This is not a smear campaign against basicsofsikhi, but to get a clarification on their stand. Once they answer the question, it will be posted here.
  8. Why Be In A Relationship?

    Missing that special someone in your life!!!!! Well, don't look no further, the cult of 3HO has solved your problem. Pull out your magic carpet from under your bed. Don't forget your purity white garb.......and the most important objects......stone idols!!!!!! I actually took the liberty to try this and guess what I found that special someone. I felt so green and relaxed inside. There was a faint voice in the background telling me puff, puff pass, puff, puff, pass, but my relationship is special, I don't share this joyful joint union with any hippie or Nihang. If anyone is missing thumbs we can provide you with a medicine that will RE-GROW YOUR THUMBS tooooooo (Special Mushrooms!!!!!!!!). Now sit back relax and make sure you got that thumb jammed between your eyebrows............and repeat that special someone's name out loud. http://yogamint.com/video/why-be-in-a-relationship
  9. Is 3H0 Based On True Sikhi?

    Please watch the following videos including other parts to it: In fact I would suggest watching all the videos in the channel for those unsure about the wrong teachings of 3ho. It is wrong to slander a jathebandi based on a few individuals commiting big violations of sikhi. However it is our duty to be aware of and warn the panth of any organsation which is actually BASED on anti sikh principles. This ex long term member of 3ho has been brave enough to publicly discuss anti sikhi practices of 3ho, especially its founder yogi bhajan. There was already a great book written on this by Dr Trilochan Singh regarding this issue but many people do not about this. A free pdf version is available online. However you will always get those with a snatan or vedant "all is one and good" type mindset having a soft spot for 3ho despite the evidence of their main princniples being hugely against the teachings of GuruSahib. Remember this isn't about exposing a random indiviual doing dodgy stuff and then using that as an excuse to attack a panthic jathebandi, this is about being aware of this group 3ho being based on and having teachings and principles which are very much against the teachings of gurbani. Clever ppl will say this is racist. No it isn't. Infact punjabi ppl normally love white people. So being against 3h0 is NOT being against white sikhs. 3ho have "sikhs" of various ethinicites. Then on the other hand white sikhs are found in other jathebandis so please do not foolishly take being against the teachings of 3h0 as being against anyone who is white. As this gursikhs in the youtube videos has said - if we don't bring awareness to the panth about their teachings and gross violations of gurmat then they will always be a danger of brainwashing innocent sikhs into their manmat. This is a worldwide sikh forum and it has a duty to teach correct sikhi and also warn us about any group which is teaching something which is very much against basic sikhi.
  10. Watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aBsPssfMgc#at=235
  11. What is Yoga?

    http://www.gurbani.org/articles/webart301.htm
  12. I am a Sikh

    Why do you believe Snatam Kaur of 3HO, NOW has to make a video of trying to convince everyone that she is a Sikh? Seems pointless right!!! Shouldn't her actions speak for whether she is a Sikh or not?
  13. i saw some pics of 3ho sikh who doing havan, and poojas on the ganga , is it true,is all the miri piri ac student do this, i am amritdhari singh and i wear only a sarbloh kara, and 5 kakkar, i saw they wear also stons in necks, please tell me anybody about this
  14. Can anyone who attends any 3ho functions or considers themselves 3ho, explain the following for me? http://www.gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=569
×