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  1. Please watch the video before you read my response: MY RESPONSE: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! As someone who actually supports the concept of an independent state run on Sikh values (Khalistan), I don’t think that songs like this do anything for positive the movement. We need less gang bang hood type of music videos, and we need actual change in terms of drug addiction, female infanticide, low birth rates, lack of education, etc, all of which will actually help the Sikh community, rather than a music video in which we are waving around guns and talking about assassinating people. They put videos of Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, but don’t realize that whenever people came to him asking to join the movement, the first thing he said was to pick up a Gutka before the Gun, because the real power of Sikhi comes from Bani. Baba Bhindranwale also never boasted or showed off, and and neither did he all of a sudden start demanding a separate state, but he primarily focused on major issues in the panth, and used violence as a last resort. Our community has a habit of ignoring the important humanitarian and intellectual work of sevadaars and mainly focusing on the action part. People always talk about Baba Deep Singh as a physical warrior, but forget how he had an entire life of studying Bani that led up to his legendary Shaheedi. We all like to talk about Khalistan, yet forget the main issues affecting the panth like drug addiction, farmer debt, suicide, casteism, sexism, lack of education, low birthrates, etc. The Panth doesn't have the infrastructure to build or support another country, and before we start boasting about end goals, we should at least primarily focus on our main issues. A common response that I get is that this is just a music video, and that it at least does a good job of reminding people about important issues, however I would argue that there are better ways of talking about the issue of Sikh independence without waving around weapons and acting like a gang. The last thing the Panth, and the Khalsitani movement needs right now is even more bad publicity, and videos like this only reinforce the common held belief that the main advocates of Khalistan were from the west. PS: At least they didn’t put a communist flag in this video, it was a decent song tho. TL;DR: Can we focus more on Bani and less on wearing Kaali ? Thanks! Question for the Sangat: What do you guys think of this video?
  2. The daemons involvement has never been in doubt, just surprised the corrupt GK did not take it to the authorities for a healthy sum and political favour. https://www.sikh24.com/2018/02/06/breaking-jagdish-tytlers-videos-confessing-murder-of-100-sikhs-made-public-by-manjit-singh-gk/#.WnmDpnOnwwA
  3. One of my relatives had said this to me, and it kind of makes sense. If jarnail singh wasn’t in akaal takhat in the first place then the Indian government wouldn’t need to enter harmandir sahib. They could have fought anywhere else, on open field etc. But he chose harmandir sahib. The Indian government had gone into harmandir sahib to capture sant jarnail singh right? So if he wasn’t situated in akaal takhat, the government had no reason to enter harmandir sahib and kill the Sikhs. (I’m not condoning the Indian government and especially not indra because of what the government did to the innocent Sikhs, I’m just talking about akaal takhat)
  4. Do Sikhs still hate Hindus for what a Hindu minority did to a Sikh majority
  5. Does anyone have any newspapers etc, from the time, regarding Santa Singh's 22 misdeeds mentioned in the below article? http://www.1984tribute.com/Jhujaroo-Jeevani.php?id=395
  6. Does any person have a PDF copy of the book released by Baba Harnam Singh Jee Dhumma which lists all of the shaheed Singhs and Singhnia of 84?
  7. Approx 250 Sikh dharam fauji's who vowed to fight to the death with their sikh brothers in arms with just their turbans and clothes for armour and lightly armed defending the darbar sahib golden temple vs 100,000 enemy brahminwad neo-mughul Indian troops with sophisticated weaponry, Kevlar bullet and blast proof armour and commando trained Elite soldiers. Our kaum's brave lions may have all lost their lives defending our Guru's home but they gave the enemy one hell of a beating. And thus their Indian terrorist operation blue star, their destruction of thousands of Sikh life and Sri Akal Takht laid the foundation stone and for the fight for Khalistan.
  8. I remember back in the 80s and 90s there was various documentaries about the political affairs of the Sikhs in the UK and in punjab/india but nowadays there's nothing. Everything to do with religion is almost entirely focused on Islam and its notorious groups and people. In 2012 an american ex-special ops neo nazi white supremacist murdered 8 people in a gurdwara in wisconsin and no documentary was made covering it. Recently we learnt that the British thatcher government had involvement in helping (in very limited capacity as they say) the Indian government attack darbar Sahib in 1984. We learnt that Thatcher also said things back in 1980s to malign British Sikhs of southall in regards to the sectarian christian/catholic northern Ireland troubles. There should be enough material out there for some clever documentary journalists to investigate the real role of the British government in the Sikh genocide of 1984. The Sikhs of punjab in 80s/90s were in a very similar situation to that of tamil hindus of present times. The british government aided the sri lanakan buddhist senalese government to cause the tamil genocide in 2009. British govt funded Channel 4 news covered it in various news bulletins and made documentary on it. However no one has done the same for the Sikhs they haven't exposed the British and other governments role in our peoples mass murder and attack on our religious institutions. Even our own so called religious leaders and organisations that claim to represent the voice of british sikhs (like sikh federation, sikh council, etc) have strangely gone gupt and silent as a mouse not said a word since 2014. It seems like some backdoor deals are being done undercover.
  9. For more than 50 years, the Central Govt has made Panjab give away more than 50 percent of its river water, for free, to the non riparian states of Rajasthan, Haryana and Delhi. And it has costed Panjab more than 20 lakh crore rupees (£200 billion pounds). Today only 20 per cent of Panjab's water needs are being met by its own river water. In this film, Pritam Singh Kumedan, an expert and advisor to the Panjab Govt on riparian water issues, reveals, in an interview with UNITED SIKHS, how Panjab can stop giving away this water for free. Will the politicians, who Panjab is voting for on 4th Feb 2017, ensure that Panjab does not give away its water to non-riparian states anymore?
  10. Respect?

    Do u guys think that shaheeds and their families get enuf respect? I mean, surprisingly even some Sikhs call the karkus terrorists. The words pierce my ears like arrows and pain my heart. After all their kurbanis people have no better words than "terrorist". Must b something to do with the highly biased hindu media at the time. I had one in my extended family (my happiness knew no bounds when I found out). what do u guys think?
  11. http://akaalpublishers.com/?product=reflections-on-1984
  12. Simranjit Singh Mann?

    Why exactly did the Hindu government choose to use him to be wrongfully accused of crimes on 30 different instances when there were so many great GurSikhs all over against the Akal Takht beadbi in 1984?
  13. i have yet to see this video where the slogan "KHOON KA BADLA KHOON" was shouted does this video exist? it was broadcast on doordarshan channel on tv in 1984.
  14. Sikh Research Institute We Remember ‪#‎SikhGenocide‬ ‪#‎AntiSikhGenocide‬ ‪#‎1984Genocide https://m.facebook.com/sikhresearchinstitute/photos/a.192727064088390.53248.183608415000255/1146929018668185/?type=3&ref=bookmarks ‬
  15. Facts Of 1984 - Summary

    This caught my attention, comment posted by somebody on Facebook on one of the pages: " Facts of 1984 First day - 31st October 1984 9:20 am: Indira Gandhi is shot by Sardar Beant Singh ji and Sardar Satwant Singh ji at her residence, No. 1 Safdarjung Road, for the Attack on Sri Darbar sahib June 1984. She is then rushed to All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS). 10:50 am: Indira Gandhi dies. 11:00 am: All India Radio listeners learn that the two security guards who shot Indira Gandhi were Sikhs. 4:00 pm: Rajiv Gandhi returns from West Bengal and reaches AIIMS. Stray incidents of attacks in and around that area. Rajiv Gandhi has already by this time spoken to some high ranking congress officials and politicians. 5:30 pm: The motorcade of President Zail Singh, who is returning from a foreign visit, is stoned as it approaches AIIMS. EVENING of 31st October 1984 URGENT meetings are taking place at a high ranking congress leaders residences in Delhi. One of those meetings was at 24 Akbar Road, New Delhi attended by members of Parliament and senior members of the Congress party including Jagdish Tytler, Sajjan Kumar, Kamal Nath, Dharam Das Shastri, Vasant Sathe, HKL Bhagat, Lalit Makhen, Arjun Das amongst others What is being discussed? The planning of a genocide! How to bring in tyres, kerosene oil, iron rods, and have enough transport to mobilise paid hooligans, rapists, murderers from one point to another...how the police are not to intervene, how state media will be used to show inflammatory speeches and scenes. Congress MP's are ordered to make pacts with known 'criminal gangs' in their area's to eliminate Sikh men, rape their women and loot their belongings. A memo is sent out to ALL Delhi police stations ordering the immediate 'stand down' of ALL Sikh police officers till further notice AND for all Sikh police officers equipped with fire arms to return their fire arms to the local police station as of immediate effect. 1000's of photocopies of Voters list are being printed, containing ADDRESSES of Sikh houses and businesses in and around Delhi. Organised and well equipped gangs of ruffians set out in different directions from AIIMS. The violence, including violence towards Sikhs and destruction of Sikh properties, spreads. Rajiv Gandhi is sworn in as the Prime Minister. Senior advocate and BJP leader Ram Jethmalani, meets Home Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao and urges him to take immediate steps to protect Sikhs from further attacks. Delhi's Lt. Governor, P.G. Gavai and Police Commissioner, S.C. Tandon, visits some of the affected areas. Late evening, Delhi transport corporation buses are making their way out of Delhi to surrounding states to pick up paid hooligans/mobs. NIGHT of 31st October 1984 Meetings are still taking place AND now truck loads of Iron rods and tyres are coming into Delhi from surrounding states. Trains and tankers full of kerosene oil are also making their way to OLD Delhi. Jails around Delhi housing the most ruthless criminals are now being emptied of ALL those criminals including murderers and rapists, on the grounds that they can go FREE if they kill Sikh men and rape Sikh women, they are also told they will be paid for every Sikh that is killed and for every Sikh woman that is raped. Second day - 1st November 1984 Congress party MP Sajjan Kumar and Trade Union leader Lalit Maken handed out 100 rupee notes and bottles of liquor to assailants. On the morning of 1st November, Sajjan Kumar was seen holding rallies in, at least, the following Delhi neighborhoods; in Palam Colony from 6:30 AM to 7:00 AM, in Kiran Gardens from 8:00 AM to 8:30 AM, and in Sultanpuri from around 8:30 AM to 9:00 AM. In Kiran Gardens at 8:00 AM, Sajjan Kumar was seen distributing iron rods from a parked truck to a group of 120 people and instructing them to "attack Sikhs, kill them, and loot and burn their properties" The FIRST killing of a Sikh occurs in east Delhi. Armed mobs with guns lead the way. 9:00 am: Armed mobs take over the streets of Delhi and launch a massacre. Among the first targets are Gurdwaras. Sikhs seen in cars, public transport, including buses and trains are being dragged out...Sikh men are being beaten with rods and tyres are being placed around their necks...doused with kerosene oil..they are being set a light! Before they are being burnt they are pinned down and their hair and beards are being forcibly cut off. 120 Sikhs working at the Bokaro Steel Plant Jharkhand thrown alive into burning furnaces. In Agartala, Tripura 40 Sikh families who took refuge in a police station to save their lives were burnt alive in the police station. In Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh 12 Sikhs were hanged from the ceiling at the railway platform. Sikh women are being gang raped, beaten...stripped naked they sit next to the burning bodies of their husbands, bothers, sons. 40-50 Sikh girls are kidnapped and taken to a Chilla village where they are raped for 7 days!! Sikh belongings are being looted, their homes and business set alight. The police refuse to help or intervene. In some cases, the Police actually assist the mobs by disarming Sikhs so they could attack them. The worst affected areas are low income colonies like Trilokpuri, Shahdara, geeta colony,Mongolpuri, Sultanpuri and Palam Colony. 100's of Gurdwara are being burnt, Shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji de saroop are being set alight...Waheguru. This scene is being replicated in others parts of India. The state media show looped video clips of Amitabh Bachchan raising slogans like "Khoon ka badla khoon" (blood for blood) and "Khoon ke chintey sikhon ke ghar tak pahunchni chahiye" (Splashes of blood should reach the doorsteps of Sikhs). Third day -2nd November 1984 A repeat of 1st November. And A curfew is announced throughout Delhi, but is not enforced. The Army deployed throughout Delhi too but ineffective because the police did not co-operate with soldiers (who are not allowed to open fire without the consent of senior police officers and executive magistrates). The killings, rapes and looting continue. Fourth day -3rd November 1984 Massacre continues. By late evening, the national Army and local police units work together to subdue the violence. After law enforcement intervention, violence is comparatively mild and sporadic. In Delhi the dead bodies of the victims were taken to All India Institute of Medical Sciences New Delhi and Civil Hospital Mortuary Tis hazari, Delhi. It is now believed that 30,000 plus Sikhs Perished throughout India during these 4 days of State Sponsored Massacre. 100's of Sikh women listed missing / unaccounted for. 100's of young children missing / unaccounted for. We NOW ask you to please help raise awareness of this massacre, so the remaining culprits that are STILL alive are brought to account Never forget 1984 Must read Its too long but true pls pls read at once pls......"
  16. 2Nd November 1984

    Today in Sikh History: 2nd November 1984 Curfew was in force throughout Delhi but only on paper. The Army was also deployed throughout Delhi but nowhere was it effective because the police did not co-operate with the soldiers who were not empowered to open fire without the consent of senior police officers or executive magistrates. Meanwhile, mobs continued to rampage with the same ferocity with mass killing, rapes and torture. There was stench of death surrounding Delhi, yet no one was accountable. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153105534302791&substory_index=0&id=240716567790
  17. On the day Sant Bhindranwale was pronounced dead by Indian Authorities, Sanjay Suri a Hindu Crime Reporter for The Indian Express (who also reported on the genocide in Delhi) travelled to their home on 6th June 1984. What he reports 31 years later will leave you speechless.
  18. Sumedh Saint has been replaced as Punjab Police Chief be a similar person Suresh Arora. http://m.ndtv.com/india-news/punjab-police-chief-replaced-after-scripture-desecration-row-1236180
  19. 1984 Dissertation Help

    I’ve been told to think of an area of interest for my dissertation in university. I would like to do it on 1984 Operation Blue Star because it’s close to my heart but I do not know what avenue to take on it and cannot think of possible questions. Some other students from university have stated it would be difficult to do because of the lack of academic research connected to it. Any suggestions or ideas?
  20. So the UK makes a deal with the Saudis to vote for each other so they can both secure places on the UN Human Rights Commissions. Even though Saudi hasone of the worst human rights records in the world, human rights take a back seat when trade deals and western interests are up for grabs. Is anyone surprised ? Then you wonder why the enquiry into British involvement in the 1984 Harmandar Sahib attack was 'white washed " and shut down... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/29/uk-and-saudi-arabia-in-secret-deal-over-human-rights-council-place
  21. WJKK WJKF. Sangat ji. Im looking for sevadaars for next year march. Some points i wasnt happy with this year. 1. Our sangat sitting on the road and kirbs when listening to the speakers , eating food. I was hurt seeing our elders sitting like beggars eating roti on the kerbs. Solution:- we need people who have events companies who can help with plastic seating for a few hours. 2. I seen a few ladies in tears as theyd sprained ankles, but no first aiders about. Solution:- We need first aid sevadaars and people that can provide any foot massage for elders. (5mins). 3.I seen a few sevadaars running up and down trying to keep people off the paths as it was obstructing normal pedestrians. Solution:- we need lots more sevadaars who are fit enough to run or walk briskly to provide stewarding and security. If you have a SIA badge then thats a bonus. 4. After the march people were tired and tried finding the coaches it was bedlam. Confused people struggling to find the coaches. Solution:- we need more young sevadaars who could guide people to the coaches on the embankment by holding up plakards as guides for the sangat. If you can help or have any links to people who can for next year then please contact me by email : mindasingh@hotmail.com
  22. 1984 Katha Videos Pictures

    PLEASE POST ALL 1984 OPERATION BLUESTAR VIDEOS PICTURES ETC. HERE http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VgebozKUsPQ http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bl4ED9BnhE http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iiLbqEA2yKQ http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdC5O8fvkwY http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2FVrHFjY8ig http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3PYfD0uRqfo
  23. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ॥ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ॥ UK MP John McDonnell says Sikh Genocide of 1984 was similar to the Jewish Genocide in Germany by Adolf Hilter London: On the eve of the premier of upcoming movie ‘Patta Patta Singhan da Vairi’ on April 12, UK MP John McDonnell said that the Sikhs were subjected to genocide in 1984 by the Indian state just like the Nazi regime of Hitler subjected Jews to genocide. Talking about the Sikh Genocide of November 1984, MP John McDonnell said that this was sequel of the genocide of the Jews in Germany by Adolf Hitler. File photo - MP John McDonnell While appreciating lyricist turned singer cum actor Raj Kakra, MP John McDonnell said that ‘Patta Patta Singhan Da Vairi’ movie portrays the tragedy of Punjab. The ‘Daily Ajit’ reveals that the story of the movie revolves around a Sikh youth, whose father becomes a victim and is shot by the Indian Army during the armed attack by Indian State on Darbar Sahib, Amritsar in June 1984. It also demonstrates the tales of atrocities committed by Punjab Police on civilian population of Punjab during the last two decades of 20th century. The movie also elaborates the state conspiracy in rampant drugs abuse in Punjab. It is notable that ‘Patta Patta Singhan Da Vairi’ movie was initially denied clearance by the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) but it was later cleared by Film Certification Appellate Tribunal (FCAT). The movie is set to hit screens worldwide on April 17.
  24. The Tragedy of 1984: Challenges for a Sikh Journalist Source: http://sikhsiyasat.net/2015/03/16/the-tragedy-of-1984-challenges-for-a-sikh-journalist/ This article is published at the Sikhsiyasat web site. I could not copy and paste it here. If you like to read it, please read it at the link http://sikhsiyasat.net/2015/03/16/the-tragedy-of-1984-challenges-for-a-sikh-journalist/
  25. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ, ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ New Gandhi statue unveiled in London's Parliament Square The British prime minister, David Cameron, and India’s finance minister, Arun Jaitley, were joined on Saturday by Gandhi’s grandson, the former governor of West Bengal, Shri Gopalkrishna Gandhi, and Indian actor Amitabh Bachchan for the inauguration ceremony. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/14/new-gandhi-statue-unveiled-in-londons-parliament-square During Sikh New Year's day, David Cameron participated in insulting Sikhs by hosting Indian actor Amitabh Bachchan, who is alleged to have incited racial hatred and genocide against Sikhs, for the inauguration ceremony. A leading German historian said Mahatma Gandhi was "one of the greatest friends of Nazi Germany" because the Indian activist and the Third Reich shared a shared a common enemy in Britain. Gandhi's quote on the Children Of Israel "the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher's knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs." Gandhi insisted on referring to Sikhs as "hindus" and said "I read your Granth Sahib. But I do not do so to please you. Nor shall I seek your permission to do so. But the Guru has not said anywhere that you must grow your beards, carry kirpans (swords) and so on". Gandhi attacked Gurmukhi. In a letter to a friend, Amrit Kaur, he wrote, "I wish you would persuade enlightened Sikhs to take the Devnagri script in the place of the Gurmukhi". The UK government aided India in planning Sikh genocide during 1984.