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  1. They are hind-ians (aka those who inhabit the ancient land of hind) and are more interested in Hind-ism than Hindu-ism. What Sikhs failed to realise is after 1947 when the Hindu's found themselves to have a majority rule again after nearly 1000 years they are more interested in defending and preserving what remains of land of hind than actual reviving and practising hinduism and uphold any of its values or teachings. The most militant and ultra nationalistic hindian will do anything including murders, torture and terrorism to ensure India is safeguarded. And the militant of these people are the types who join R&AW operations against their precieved enemies. We can even see some our own Sikhs who been brainwashed to follow this ideology of hindism especially onces who join the indian army they will rather defend india than Sikhi. We see the results of that when some traitor Sikh generals and sikh soldiers took part in the attack on darbar sahib in 1984 and those traitor punjabi Sikh policemen who killed their own Sikh brothers in the fields of punjab in late 80s to early 90s. Today we see most hindu's do not really believe in their religion, alot of their hindu religious figures the sadhu's, swami's and sants are complaining they are in grave danger of dying out as younger generations dont believe in their paths as the internet is brainwashing the youth into other ideologies. Alot of hindu religious figures are getting caught up in fraud and sexual exploitation scandals and jailed bringing the hindu faith in disrupt. But what is being replaced in young hindu minds is deep sense of nationalism. Anyone who utters a word against india is seen as a heretic, a blasphemer, an anti-national terrorist who wishes no good to their nation. It is their new religion now not hinduism but hind-ism
  2. Not that long ago, having a "Sikh" CM who wasn't a full keshdhari Sikh would have been a shocking development. Nowadays, it's not even worth mentioning. Tomorrow, the CM will be a mona with some stubble who wears a pagh in public The day after, the CM will be a mona without a pagh Next week, SGPC members will be allowed to trim Meanwhile, clowns like Deep Sidhu are held up as panthic heros This is a community in freefall that doesn't have any standards. Degenerate behavior has become so normalized that nobody even notices anymore.
  3. Just realised, 5 comes up a lot on Sikhi, just wondering, if this has been discussed before? 5 elements to make up the body 5 senses 5 pyare 5 theives 5 good qualities 5 banis 5 ks
  4. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ। ਸਿੱਖ ਕੌਣ ਹੈ ? ਕਿਹੜੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾਲੂਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਲਾ ਕੇ; "ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ" ਬਣਦਾ ਹੈ ? ਠਾਕੁਰ ਦਲੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਰੱਖਣ ਵਾਲਾ ਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ "ਸਿੱਖ" ਹੈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ "ਸਿੱਖੀ" ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਨਾਲ ਹੈ ; ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਸਰਧਾ ਭਗਤਿ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ (ਮ:1) । ਸਿਰਫ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ, ਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ "ਸਿੱਖ"(ਸ਼ਿਸ਼ /ਮੁਰੀਦ) ਹੈ। ਜਿਸ ਸੱਪ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਛਾਂ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ, ਉਹ ਵੀ "ਸਿੱਖ" ਸੀ। ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮ ਲੇਵਾ (ਨਾਨਕ ਪੰਥੀਆਂ) ਨੂੰ ਮਿਲਾ ਕੇ ਹੀ ਸਮੁੱਚਾ ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਬਣਦਾ ਹੈ। ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ: ਸਿਰਫ "ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਧਾਰੀ ਖਾਲਸੇ" ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ; ਜਦ ਕਿ "ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਧਾਰੀ ਖਾਲਸੇ" (ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ) ਤਾਂ ਸਮੁੱਚੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਦਾ ਇੱਕ ਸ੍ਰੇਸ਼ਟ ਅੰਗ ਹਨ। ਭਾਈ ਘਨਈਆ, ਭਾਈ ਨੰਦਲਾਲ, ਦੀਵਾਨ ਟੋਡਰਮੱਲ ਆਦਿ ਸਿੱਖ; ਦਸਵੇਂ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਵੀ "ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਧਾਰੀ"ਨਹੀਂ ਸਨ: ਪਰ ਉਹ ਵੀ ਮਹਾਨ ਸਿੱਖ ਸਨ। ਅੱਜ ਵੀ ਜੋ ਹਿੰਦੂ, ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ, ਜੈਨ, ਬੁੱਧ ਆਦਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਰੱਖਦੇ ਹਨ, ਉਹ ਸਾਰੇ ਹੀ "ਨਾਨਕ ਪੰਥੀ" ਹਨ ਅਤੇ "ਸਿੱਖ" (ਸ਼ਿਸ਼ /ਮੁਰੀਦ) ਹਨ। ਕਿਉਂਕਿ, ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਕੋਈ ਵੀ ਵੱਖਰਾ ਪੰਥ ਕਦੇ ਵੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਅਤੇ ਨਾ ਹੀ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਇਹ ਬਚਨ ਕੀਤਾ: "ਮੈਂ ਇਹ ਵੱਖਰਾ ਨਵਾਂ ਪੰਥ ਬਣਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹਾਂ, ਇਸਦਾ ਨਾਮ "ਸਿੱਖ"(ਉ ) ਹੋਵੇਗਾ। ਜੇਕਰ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਨਵਾਂ ਵੱਖਰਾ ਪੰਥ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਉਸ ਨੂੰ "ਸਿੱਖ" ਨਾਮ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਤਾਂ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਵੱਡੇ-ਵੱਡੇ ਪੀਰ: ਜਿਵੇਂ ਸਾਂਈ ਮੀਆਂ ਮੀਰ, ਪੀਰ ਬੁੱਧੂ ਸ਼ਾਹ ਆਦਿ; ਉਹ ਕਦੇ ਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾਲੂ ਨਾ ਬਣਦੇ। ਜੇਕਰ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਵੱਖਰਾ ਪੰਥ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਹੁੰਦਾ, ਤਾਂ 'ਪੀਰ ਭੀਖਣ ਸ਼ਾਹ' ਦੋ ਕੁੱਜੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਥਾਂ, ਤਿੰਨ ਕੁੱਜੀਆਂ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਆਉਂਦਾ। ਪਰ, ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਵੱਖਰਾਪਣ: ਵੱਖਰਾ ਧਰਮ, ਵੱਖਰਾ ਪੰਥ ਕਦੇ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ। ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਕਰਾਮਾਤਾਂ ਵਿਖਾਈਆਂ ਅਤੇ ਸਾਂਝਾ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦਿੱਤਾ, ਤਾਂ ਹੀ:ਲਾਮੇ, ਹਿੰਦੂ, ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ, ਬੋਧੀ ਆਦਿ ਸਾਰੇ ਹੀ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾਲੂ ਸੇਵਕ ਬਣੇ। ਇਸ ਲਈ ਹਰ 'ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮ ਲੇਵਾ ਸ਼ਰਧਾਲੂ' "ਸਿੱਖ" ਹੈ। ਜੋ ਵੀ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨਦਾ/ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਰੱਖਦਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਗੱਦੀ-ਨਸ਼ੀਨ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨਦਾ ਹੈ: ਭਾਵੇਂ ਉਹ ਇੱਕ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨੇ ਜਾਂ ਬਹੁਤਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨੇ; ਉਹ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਆਪਣੇ ਉਸੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ ਅਤੇ ਸ਼ਰਧਾ ਸਮੇਤ ਹੀ ਸਿੱਖ/ਸ਼ਿਸ਼ /ਮੁਰੀਦ ਹੈ। ਜਿਵੇਂ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ, ਧੀਰਮੱਲੀਏ, ਰਾਮਰਾਈਏ, ਸਹਿਜਧਾਰੀ, ਨਾਮਧਾਰੀ ਆਦਿ। "ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਪੰਥੀਆਂ" ਨੂੰ, ਉਹ ਜਿਸ ਵਿਸਵਾਸ਼ ਵਿਚ ਵੀ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਅਤੇ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਜਿੰਨੇ ਵੀ ਗੱਦੀ ਨਸ਼ੀਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨਦੇ ਹਨ; ਉਹਨਾਂ ਸ਼ਰਧਾਲੂਆਂ ਨੂੰ, ਓਸੇ ਰੂਪ ਵਿਚ "ਨਾਨਕ ਪੰਥੀ" ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ "ਸਿੱਖ" ਪ੍ਰਵਾਨ ਕਰਨਾ ਯੋਗ ਹੈ। ਜਿਵੇਂ ਕਿ ਉਦਾਸੀ: ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਤੋਂ ਉਪਰੰਤ ਬਾਬਾ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਚੰਦ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ, ਧੀਰਮੱਲੀਏ: ਬਾਬਾ ਧੀਰਮੱਲ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ, ਰਾਮਰਾਈਏ: ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਮਰਾਇ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਅਤੇ ਨਾਮਧਾਰੀਏ: ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਰਾਮ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨਦੇ ਹਨ। ਇਸੇ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਬਾਕੀ ਸੰਪਰਦਾਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਵੀ ਆਪੋ ਆਪਣੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ ਹਨ. ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਓਸੇ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਵਾਨ ਕਰ ਲੈਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਕਿਸੇ ਵੀ ਸੰਪਰਦਾ ਨੂੰ ਆਪਣੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ, ਦੂਸਰੀ ਸੰਪਰਦਾ ਉੱਤੇ ਠੋਸਣੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਚਾਹੀਦੇ। ਜੇਕਰ ਅਸੀਂ ਇਸ ਉੱਤਮ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਾਲ ਸੋਚ ਨੂੰ ਅਪਣਾ ਲਈਏ, ਤਾਂ ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਪੰਥੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਲਾ ਕੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਦੀ ਗਿਣਤੀ 50 ਕਰੋੜ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਧ ਹੋ ਜਾਵੇਗੀ। (ਕਿਉਂਕਿ, ਬਹੁਤ ਸਾਰੇ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਆਖੇ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਵੀਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨਦੇ ਹਨ।) ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਰੰਗ ਬਿਰੰਗੀ ਫੁਲਵਾੜੀ ਦੇ ਰੰਗ ਬਿਰੰਗੇ ਫੁੱਲ; ਕਈ ਸੰਪਰਦਾਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਰੂਪ ਵਿਚ ਹਨ। ਕੁਝ "ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮ ਲੇਵਾ ਸੰਪਰਦਾਵਾਂ" ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਹੇਠ ਲਿਖੇ ਹਨ, ਪਰ ਸਾਰੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਮਿਲੇ: 1) ਉਦਾਸੀ. 2) ਸਿੰਧੀ. 3) ਧੀਰਮੱਲੀਏ. 4) ਰਾਮਰਾਈਏ. 5) ਸਤਿ ਕਰਤਾਰੀਏ. 6) ਹਿੰਦਲੀਏ. 7) ਹੀਰਾ ਦਾਸੀਏ. 8 ਨਾਮਧਾਰੀ. 9) ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੀ. 10) ਨਿਹੰਗ. 11) ਬੰਦਈ. 12) ਨਿਰਮਲੇ. 13) ਸੇਵਾ ਪੰਥੀ. 14) ਗਹਿਰ ਗੰਭੀਰੀਏ. 15) ਨੀਲਧਾਰੀ. 16) ਅਕਾਲੀ. 17) ਭਗਤਪੰਥੀ. 18)ਸਿਕਲੀਗਰ. 19) ਸਤਿਨਾਮੀ. 20) ਜੌਹਰੀ. 21) ਅਫਗਾਨੀ. 22) ਮਰਦਾਨੇ ਕੇ. 23) ਅਸਾਮੀ. 24) ਲਾਮੇ. 25) ਵਣਜਾਰੇ. 26)ਅਗਰਹਾਰੀ. 27) ਸਹਿਜਧਾਰੀ, ਆਦਿ। ਵਿਸ਼ੇਸ਼ : ਇਹਨਾਂ ਸੰਪਰਦਾਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ, ਬਾਹਰਲੇ ਸਰੂਪ ਅਤੇ ਪ੍ਰੰਪਰਾਵਾਂ ਆਪੋ-ਆਪਣੀਆਂ, ਵੱਖੋ-ਵੱਖ ਹਨ। ਉਸ ਵਖਰੇਵੇਂ ਕਾਰਣ ਹੀ, ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਫੁਲਵਾੜੀ ਰੰਗ-ਬਿਰੰਗੀ ਹੈ। ਉਸ ਰੰਗ-ਬਿਰੰਗੀ ਫੁਲਵਾੜੀ ਨੂੰ, ਰੰਗ ਬਿਰੰਗੀ ਹੀ ਰੱਖਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਹੈ। (ਉ) ਸੰਸਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਦੇ "ਸ਼ਿਸ਼੍ਯ" ਸ਼ਬਦ ਤੋਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦਾ ਸ਼ਬਦ "ਸਿੱਖ" ਬਣਿਆ ਹੈ। ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਿਸ਼ /ਸਿੱਖ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਸਾਡਾ ਸਿੱਖ ਨਾਮ ਪ੍ਰਚੱਲਿਤ ਹੋ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਜੋ ਕਿ ਸਹੀ ਹੈ, ਇਸ ਨਾਮ ਨੂੰ ਵਰਤਣਾ ਯੋਗ ਹੈ। ਅੱਜ ਸਾਰੇ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਵਿਚ ਸਿੱਖ ਨਾਮ ਵਾਲੇ ਧਰਮ/ਪੰਥ ਦਾ ਬੜਾ ਜਸ ਹੈ। ਨੋਟ : ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਦੀ ਚੜ੍ਹਦੀ ਕਲਾ ਚਾਹੁਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਸੱਜਣ, ਆਪਣੇ ਵਿਚਾਰ (ਦਲੀਲ ਸਹਿਤ) ਬੇਝਿਝਕ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਹੇਠ ਲਿਖੇ ਨੰਬਰਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਈਮੇਲ ਰਾਹੀਂ ਭੇਜਣ ਦੀ ਕਿਰਪਾਲਤਾ ਕਰਨ ਜੀ : ਠਾਕੁਰ ਦਲੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੰਪਰਕ ਨੰਬਰ : ਰਾਜਪਾਲ ਕੌਰ +919023150008, ਰਤਨਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ +919650066108 ਈ.ਮੇਲ :- rajpal16773@gmail.com, ratandeeps5@gmail.com . . . . . #thakurdalipsinghjidipehel #thakurdalipsinghji #gurunanaknaamleva #Sikhs #sikhism #sikhpanth #khalsa #khalsapanth #nihangsikhs #NanakPanthi #namdhari #namdharisikhs Canadian Punjabi Post
  5. Sikhs believe in DEGH TEGH FATEH. Degh means food, clothing, medicines etc for all. If we don't save our water, forests, agriculture, animals etc. How will we hv langar, milk etc. How will we do shikaar and get best wild meat? How will we make natural medicines from plants if we cut plants and trees?
  6. Our nature is totally disturbed. We are greatly over populated. Shud we keep on increasing population and kill mother nature? Many Sikhs say that birth and death are Hukam and have 3-4 kids. Gurbani says that don't worry, God will take care of everyone and give everyone food. These Sikhs, when their 3-4 kids reach youth age, take so much tension about settling their kids and run after rich or nri families to get their kids comfortably settled. I personally feel whole human race shud decrease population, otherwise we will face societal collapse as nature is COMPLETELY disturbed
  7. ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਮੁਤਾਬਿਕ: ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਦੀ ਵਿਆਖਿਆ | ਠਾਕੁਰ ਦਲੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ गुरबानी के अनुसार: सिख पंथ की व्याख्या | ठाकुर दलीप सिंघ जी ਇਸ ਵੀਡੀਓ ਵਿੱਚ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਦਲੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਮੁਤਾਬਿਕ ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਇੱਕ ਭਗਤੀ ਮਾਰਗ ਅਤੇ ਸੰਤ ਮੱਤ ਹੈ। ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਵਿੱਚ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਭਗਤੀ, ਨਾਮ ਜਪਣਾ ਅਤੇ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਕਰਨ ਨੂੰ ਸਰਵੋਤਮ ਮੰਨਿਆ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਅਸਾਡੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਅਸਾਨੂੰ ਭਗਤ ਬਣਨ ਦਾ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਭਗਤ ਹੀ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਹੈ। ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਬਹੁਤ ਥਾਂਵਾ 'ਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਹੁਕਮ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਨਾਮ ਜਪਣ ਅਤੇ ਜਪਾਉਣ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਦੀ, ਕੀਰਤਨ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਦੀ, ਕਥਾਵਾਚਕਾਂ ਦੀ, ਚੰਗੇ ਕਰਮ ਕਰਨ ਅਤੇ ਕਰਵਾਉਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਸੰਤਾਂ ਸਾਧਾਂ ਦੀ ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰੋ। इस वीडियो में ठाकुर दलीप सिंघ जी ने बताया है कि गुरुवाणी अनुसार सिख पंथ एक भक्ति मार्ग और संत मत है। सिख पंथ में प्रभु भगती, नाम जपने वाले और कीर्तन करने वाले को सर्वश्रेष्ठ माना गया है। हमारे सतगुरु साहिबानों ने हमें भगत बनने का ही उपदेश दिया और हमें भगत ही बनाया है। गुरुवाणी में अनेक स्थानों पर सतगुरु जी हमें यह भी हुक्म करते हैं कि हमें नाम जपने व जपवाने वालों, कीर्तन करने वालों, कथावाचकों, अच्छे कर्म करने व करवाने वाले साधु संतों की पूजा करें। Thakur Dalip Singh Ji explains in this video why Sikh Panth is a path of devotion and Sant Mat according to Gurbani. Prabhu Bhagti, Naam Japna, and Kirtan are regarded as the best by the Sikh Panth. Our Satguru Sahibs have both taught and created us to be Bhagats. Satguru Ji also commands us to worship those who chant and recite Naam, those who perform kirtan, narrators, saints, and saints who do good deeds and get things done in numerous places throughout Gurbani.
  8. There is a misconception here among some apne that only Mirpuris are carrying out grooming activities in the UK. The reality is some of you are naive. Many grooming gangs have been Pakistani Punjabis, and even Bangladeshis and Afghans. The partition violence, genocide and mass rapes were initiated and committed by Punjabi Muslims against Sikhs. The forced conversion of Sikh girls in Pakistan is carried out by Punjabi Muslims. Pakistani Punjabis are themselves no better than Mirpuris but scapegoat Mirpuris for everything wrong in their own communities. Many of the groomers have been Pakistani Punjabis yet some of you act like Pakistani Punjabis are culturally akin to Sikhs just because some Sikhs happen to speak in the same dialect of Punjabi as some Pakistanis. The ringleader of the Rochdale grooming gangs was a Pakistani Punjabi from Gujrat confirmed here. This gang was the most perverted of all grooming gangs and it was run by Pakistani Punjabis: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-grooming-gang-deportation-rights-10903124 Another Pakistani Punjabi extradited from Faisalabad. He is another pedo from Rochdale jailed for raping kids: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7942011/Child-rapist-fled-UK-Pakistan-begins-19-year-jail-term-extradited.html The grooming gangs in Oxford were Pakistani Punjabis (most Pakistanis there are Punjabis). You see names used by central Punjabi Jatt tribes such as "Virk" and "Dogar" : https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/14/oxford-gang-guilty-grooming-girls https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Taxi-driver-three-friends-sentenced-total-68-years-gang-rape-drunk-woman-passenger.html Pakistani Punjabis have endless videos on tiktok mocking Sikh victims of grooming gangs just look at this page: tiktok.com/@datpakistanipunjabi
  9. 1. Do any of you guys know of a good tattoo parlor? I am hoping to get either a khanda tattoo or a Bhindranwale tattoo. Maybe both. 2. Do you know of a good place to get my beard trimmed? Preferably in a way such that the mustache is thicker than the rest of the facial hair so that I have that ultra douchey look? Thanks.
  10. VahegurooJeeKaKhalsa VahegurooJeeKaKhalsa SangatJee. I have a inner hope or objective to get my panj Bania Kanth and even more, but im finding it hard I know it takes time but I was woundering if there is anyone that could give me any teckniques or tips to getting GurBani Kanth. VahegurooJeeKeeFateh*
  11. according to gurbilas patshahi dasvin by koer singh, there were 25 mukte after the panj pyare, can anyone find their names? I think I had their names but I cant seem to find them anywhere there is one version of kesar singh chibber that has fourteen i think according to sikhiwiki and most scholar name only 5 mukte while on the topic, can anyone confirm whether the five original nirmala were amritdhari or not nowadays many chose not to become so and many do
  12. While a lot has been written about Sikligars, Satnamis and other 'lost' tribes of Sikhi, little is known about the Vanjaras. We know some historically important Vanjara Sikhs like Bhai Lakhi Shah and his family, but others than that very little is known about them. Most NGOs have also focused on Sikligars mostly. Very little efforts have been made to reconnent with Vanjaras. While talking to sevadaars on field, they have told me that while Vanjaras are not in saroop anymore (usually don't have uncut hair or a turban) as compared to the Sikligars, they can be considered Nanakpanthis and have many ceremonies which are Sikh influenced (such as some tribes singing the name of Guru Nanak during their weddings). They are huge in numbers, were historically Sikh (or Nanakpanthis) but have been heavily targeted by RSS, Christians and Muslims. Good to see some of them returning to their faith in Telangana but we have to make more efforts to reach them. Dhan Sikhi.
  13. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=441317660906591&id=100050850813377
  14. Gur Fateh Ji, I want to become a true sikh and not one just in name and want to follow my 5 kakaars. But for that i have to stop getting my hair cut every month and i feel apprehensive about difficulties i will face in growing my hair. Can someone help me with the journey or more preferrably who has gone through this process before?? Thanks. Vaheguru ji ka khalsa, Vaheguru ji ki fateh
  15. Hi, This has probably been discussed before but it's something I can't really wrap my head around. I'm a singh with full beard and have cousins who are the same, we are finding it difficult to find Sikh girls as life partners. The ones I've been introduced to have a problem with me not cutting my beard and being vegetarian etc... few have asked me if I would cut my beard etc... this coming from supposedly Sikh girls and it's quite disgraceful. I've had more interest from girls who are not Sikh...i.e Gujarati, English girls etc.. who don't seem to care about me being a full singh, it's raising questions in my head about the future of Sikhi as a whole, our Sikh girls are moving away from our faith/traditions and adopting western values and ways above all. One of my cousins got fed up and cut his beard in the hopes to be more 'accepted', but I feel this is the wrong choice to make. I'd be lying if I said the thought didn't cross my mind but I don't want to move away from Sikhi just to find a wife, but it seems like our Sikh girls are. Suppose this is more of a rant than a question as such.
  16. Sat Sri Akal to All, I would like to start with the premise that I do not wish to offend anybody but I have critical questions as a mona sikh looking to develop my faith deeper and I've started learning gurmukhi. I hope you can all guide me on the path. Here's some critical questions I have around Sikhi that I need clarification on please. If you could provide sources also so I can fact check I would sincerely appreciate it. Q. What times are the 3 main prayers performed between and how long do they take to recite? I work within the technology sector across different time zones and I struggle for time with a new born and I'd like to know if there are mandatory banis I can recite in times where I struggle for time and how long would each take to recite? Q. What is the sikh stance on profits of the Abrahamic faiths? Please reply with validity of each mentioned profit; mohammed, jesus, moses, soliman, noah, abraham, adam. Q. Are there any specific eye witness accounts of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Travels from non sikh sources? Q. I recognise we must provide reverence to all sikh guru ji's, but why do we have Kirtans chanting guru ji's names e.g. Guru Ram das ko mili badai; surely we should only praise God and not have Kirtans for gurus, as this would go against what Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached. Q. Why do people pray to pictures of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji as though he is God, when idol worship is prohibited in Sikhi. I have witnessed this quite often, and I'm informed it's a way to pray to God (specifically citing Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji is God). Q. Is Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji a profit (I understand he is a guru) but I get different answers from my sikh brothers. I'm not sure if Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji is a spiritual master, a devine profit or similar to Jesus as God on earth in the flesh. Sikhs I've spoken to say he is the light of God, but I struggle to understand this concept. Does that mean God sent Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji with a revelation and he became a profit or he was a part of God and sent to mankind? Q. I struggle with the concept of when we die we go to the court where your deeds are read and witnesses are Guru Hargobind Ji, If I'm not mistaken, please correct me If I am wrong? What about the other gurus, are they not present? And what about followers of other faiths will they be judged in the same court as sikhs? If they do (followers of other faiths) how will they relate to the gurus? The reason I ask is because Jewish people claim they are the chosen ones and only God will come to them similarly with Islam and Christianity. Q. Are there any sects of Sikhism that follow just what Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached and not the other gurus? My paradigm is if Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji received revelation I want to follow him not the other gurus who may have been influenced by social environmental factors. This leads me to the sub question: |_ Q. If Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji was surrounded by / and in congregation with Muslims including Bhai Mardana day-to-day, is there a possibility that the later gurus through persecution incorporated Hindu doctrine a long the way. Q. How do we know conclusively that what Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached was not changed a long the way through theater gurus? Q. I recognise the heinous atrocities commited by the moghul tyrants against the gurus, but why do we have events and kathas etc on the Shahids of the panth. Surely this is a form of polytheism? And we should focus on the bani instead of on the atrocities that happened. If I relate this to Islam for instance, the sunni school of thought don't consider those (shiha) Muslims who hit themselves as a symbolic sign of reverence to atone for the murder of their imam Ali, If I'm not mistaken. Q. Are there any specific citations on reincarnation and how the process works in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
  17. Beware of Muslims ! Sikh brothers awake and be very cautious. The Muslims to whom you say our brothers and u say they are very close to us . You say they are better than Hindus ; you must watch this video .from this you can understand what is a Muslim thought psychology . Must see this video where Muslims say they will not take even food langar from Gurdwara because it it is HARAAM. They will not allow any Gurbani Kirtan in their masjid mosque. https://fb.watch/9NOB2YKe_3/ You must acknowledge this bitterroot that Muslims do not bow to our Siri guru Granth sahib ji even if they come to our Gurdwara. Most of them consider us as Kafir. They are from a totally different civilization which can not match anywhere, anytime with the Sikh thoughts.
  18. About Vadde mahapurkh's early life before joing Sant Sundar Singh ji's jatha, is it true they had taken pahul from Budha Dal and had been a nihang singh before hearing Sant Sundar Singh jee at a smagam where budha dal mukhi Akali Baba Teja Singh were also present. There are several different views on this, and since most of sangat here is from England, fortunately residence to sachkhand niwasi Giani Gurdev Singh ji, Giani Pritam Singh Likhari ji and other prominent singhs of jatha bhindran, I was wondering if anyone had heard something of the sort from a singh etc., there are people saying Vadde Mahapurkh used to consume jhatka once and degh as well until becoming mukhi of Taksal. Just want to clarify the details. Would appreciate any further khoj done. Anything about this in sri gurmukh prakash or giaan kirna or khalsa vachitar jeevan?
  19. Can someone help me find out where these swaiye are in sri dasam granth, found a interesting article quoting and claiming bhai daya singh ji pyares rehitnama to refer to these along with sravag shabad, dinan ki pritpal, etc. Most of these commonly recited swaiye are present in sri akaal ustat so if anyone can find these two before, please provide feedback on this forum waheguru jio.
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    should i leave amrit?

    Well, I'm 15 and an Amritdhari since I was 10. Since two years a beard started growing on my face and I didn't bother much about it, until now. Teachers tell me that I need to shave, while my peers stay away from me cuz "i look like a terrorist" lol. At first I didn't think it much but continuous pressure by pretty much everyone has made me feel quite depressed. I thought it would be great to tie it, but my parents don't want it cuz they say this is papey-tarkhana da kam lol. my father is an ex amritdhari mona and my mother also removes her facial hair. to be honest, my father had warned me not to take amrit cuz he said there will be a time when i would want to cut kes, eat meat etc. it was difficult to find some money to buy some hair gel as my father doesn't give me any pocket money and when i ask for some he either swears or says he doesn't have anything. truth is that much of his income goes to extra-school activities like taekwondo, football, 4-5 tuitions which cost almost 600 euros. all that just because he wants me to "become something" by simply cutting me off from society. i don't own a phone while pretty much everybody does and even the pc i'm using now is a gift from a friend of my father. he somehow expects me to be the best kid in school and become a doctor, while most of the time i'm exiled either to football, taekwondo or any freaking tuition. when i complain he starts beating he hell out of me. all that has made me think that it would be better to leave amrit. panj pyare had told that when taking amrit my caste was eradicated. but everytime i go to gurudwara i see amritdharis asking my caste. i also see amritdharis hating each other while we were supposed to be a family.
  21. I am a sikh girl, I’m 20 years old, I have a pretty good image, I do Kirtan, I do path and I also tie a dastar. I’ve always had many male friends but never felf this wa until recently I met a boy… he isn’t very religious, and still I don’t know why I still feel very attracted by him. We also got a chance by text msgs to confess this to each other. I would have never thought to fall for someone who isn’t amritdhari, but this person really cought me. He wants to meet… and above all this he said he is ready to accept me as I am and that really hit me. SO I know this is all wrong, I have an image that I can’t ruin… But what about what I feel? How can I control it? Tbh kaam is getting me… I don’t want anything bad to happen, but at the same time I think it’ll be an experience even if I’d feel guilty for the rest of my life but it will surely be something that will make me feel alive. Please help… let me know… should I give it a go? or should I forget about everything?
  22. Interesting video, thought I would share Talks about Udasis, Nirmlas
  23. I saw a news piece today of well meaning Sikhs providing free langar/aid/shopping to people in southall and slough. Every time i hear of charity and religious groups helping people its always the Sikhs or Christians very rarely I'll see muslims, hindus and buddhists helping non-believers of their faith. Buddhists I don't hear ever doing anything for non-buddhists yet they command a religious following of 500 million+ believers in their ideology. They have 3-4 countries to their name also and generally have a better representation and PR than Sikhs. Afghan sikhs have long complained of persecution from local muslims and jihadi terrorists but most world governments drag their feet in helping them by not giving them urgent immediate refuge instead many in the past have had to risk their lives illegally traveling in shipping containers where a few died few years ago. Surely Sikhs are missing something here? It seems to me no matter how much our people do for charity for non-believers that will all be forgotten as soon as anything negative comes up. There needs to be a trade off. If a non-believer gets langar they must do something for Sikhs or Sikhi even if its just free sewa like wash the dishes. I was humbled when I saw an irish non-sikh guy who had an homelessness and alcoholic problem who used to come to my local gurdwara to get langer but in return as a give back to the community he used to wash the dishes. That guy has passed away now but it shows how much he appreciated and grateful to Sikhs and how Sikhs appreciated him in return. We need a something for something culture brought back not something for nothing as we all known when something is free it is not valued as its considered like air or water. When theres value to something people appreciate it alot more this is how human beings are and we need to wake up to that fact.
  24. Read this blog too https://www.thesikhmindset.com/blog/the-origins-amp-emptiness-of-dil-saaf-ideology
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