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  1. again the real understanding here should be of balance. Desire for one's partner is fine as long as it does not get in the way of your jeevani. if you do your nitnem , sewa , simran wand shakna etc without fail, it doesnt matter whether you go to your partner 10 times a day, but if you fail to does the nitnem etc and go to your partner then it's wrong. the balance has to be there so that it doesnt take over your life. And again this is an individual thing as well. depending on your lifestyle you may do this more than others and less than than some. we may express horror at a couple who do it every day or many times a day, but if they dont neglect their sikhi to do it then we shouldnt be bothered. and im getting the impression that we are focusing more from a male perspective. any females have any thoughts they wanna share?
  2. see kaam is used for god and bad things. Good for procreation. Bad if you wanna do it and think about it all the time all the time and forget other aspects ofyour life , spirituality, prayer, sewa etc. in the same way krodh anger is only good if its directed in a positve way, as Guru Gobind Singh says in Bachiotar Natak, " when the arrow struck , the anger in me rose..." . Bad if you are angry over sumthing and brood on it all day and forget your nitnem. duz this make sense? the 5 chor are there to be controlled, not killed cos at some time in our life we are going to need and use them in some way or the other.
  3. Kaam means desire, and this can expressed sexually as well. Gurbani tells us that we must always control it, not let it control us. It doesnt tell us we must kill it dead. We have to try and make the 5 chor our slaves in this world rather than be slaves to the 5 chor. Bhagwan Brahma once said to Akal Purakh, " whoever is created , enters a state of samadhi and then merges back into yourself. They do not reproduce( have no sexual desire). So there is no continiuty. Akal Purakh then created Kaam and the other 4 thieves and let them loose on creation. This will ensure that the creation reproduces and expands. However the creation must always keep these 5 theives under control." this is a sakhi from muktnama. If you wanna hear it in full go to www.gurmatveechar.com and look for Giani Thakur Singh under Katha. Its in his folder, and i would recommend to everyone to listen to it, cos i havent the brains to explain it properly.
  4. chatanga

    Being A Girl...

    do you know why women are smaller? and have smaller feet? So they can get closer to the sink. boom boom! :wub: :wub:
  5. if your talking bout the nitnem gutka i dont think the budha dal do their "own gutka", and im sure that it would be little difrent from ther Taksal gutka.
  6. Well done these men. May Akal bless us all to follow inthier footsteps.
  7. maybe one of your relatives in india thinks you need saving....
  8. chatanga

    Marriage

    i dont know about about God , but i didnt choose who i was gonna marry!!
  9. akhand means uniterrupted. there has never been a time limit on the paath, however whichever family would hold an akhand paath would always try to do as much sewa as they could, and there weren't really professional readers , so the time would be much longer, but as time as gone on the actual paath has come under the control of time. Confusing? now very few families actually take part in the paath, and many people are "trained " to read it, so they read it mumbling missing a few words,sentecnes , pages here and there just so the bhog will be on time. God forbid the paath, run 1 or 2 hours late and the "family" had to keep there relatives in the darbar without talking to them for all that time. The granthis would get chhiter man!!!
  10. in panjba you can buy a good tabla for about 2500 - 3500 rupees which is about 30 -40 quid. go to dtf andf they cost double that. Im after a tabla head for the smaller one. duz anyone know where i could get one in the uk and how much is it from india? dotn wanna get ripped off by the shysters.
  11. Prem more or less all the panjabi papers do the things you want to stop. write a letter to the oldest and most read panjabi paper in the western world des pardes and ask them to stop jadu toone adverts in a paper that contains gurbani and religious content. start on them first plz and then turn to the sikh times. sikh times are way down the list !!!
  12. chatanga

    Adultrery

    when you say "we" do you mean the 5 piare? or we individuals or the sikhsangat members? chatanga
  13. in some cases the youth are very reluctant. take segdely st in the west midlands for example. they have many youths there but very little going on in terms of active parchaar in the wider community.
  14. Well doen. those words are so true.
  15. nihungs cant get married? thats bow-locks. The nihang priority is always the Dal Panth, ie the army of the panth, and this requires great time and sacrifice. So just as a housseholder woudnt have the time to make such a great commitment tio the DalPanth, its an advantage that they are not married. However their are absoluety NO injunctions against Nihangs marrying. chatanga
  16. I feel soory for you as i have a faint idea of what your going thru, however wiv me its the other way round. I was the only mona in my family and my 2 siblings were kesadhari when we were young and in our teens. I didnt wanna keep kes then and myparents were always cross with me. Now 10 years laters i am the only kesadhari while my siblings have gone the other way ie haircut. dont lose faith whatever you do. I will advise that you keep the sangat of believers as much as you can , and also "conveniently" leave a few books/ periodicals/dvds etc about sikhi lying around where your family will see them. chatanga
  17. tell that boy he can get any help he needs.There are plenty of orgs that will help him.
  18. you people seem so obsessed about running a country. What about the need for life? Would you rather be in a country that was well run, even tho your life was in danger, becasue of whay you are ?
  19. Bhai Sahib, to be able to meditate properly takes a while to condition yourself. It wont happen over nite. If it did we'd all be brahmgianis. Always have faith in the word. If you find it hard by yourslef, go to the gurdwara at amritvela( yes they are open) and do your medititating there with the sangat. chatanga
  20. QUOTE(Jai Tegang! @ Jun 13 2007, 10:18 PM) Once upon a time the khalsa had to scatter itself into the jugles and deserts in order perserve itself...after years of hardship the khalsa came back and ruled the punjab and beyond. today, the khalsa is scattered even further out across the seven seas. time will show what glories await. Guru Gobind Singh ji commanded Sikhs to learn Rajniti(not the dirty politics played out to take down other sikhs) for a reason. Common sense and knowledge of Rajniti would dictate Singhs living in the west not board the plane to india, shout khalistan slogans, get arrested and await there "delayed" trials for the next 10 years...achieving nothing. It is through these interent forums, marches, rallies, speeches, essays, books, posters, songs that awareness is raised and youth is prepared for the next phase of the never ending struggle that the Khalsa has had to face. Thankyou Tegang for finding the words my simple mind couldnt find. That is 100% correct.
  21. the thing is that SS Mann can say it and he has political clout to say it loud. However your average person in india withno political clout cannot say such things without expecting a criminal case against him and also beatings by the ravan sena. Ran-niti at this times says that because of the hypocrisy of the ravan raj govt, its best not to say anythig openly, but to keep it underground. Just like when Bhai Sukha Singh and Mehtab Singh dchanged their appearance to get close to massa. Why didnt they go in full bana? Becasue they knew they wouldnt be able to get close to massa. Ran-niti at that time was to go incognito. chatanga
  22. lol internet kids and their dreams .... keep dreaming .... jehra enna soorma india akke keyon nahi bolda ... yeah i know balls are need when going face to face which are missing among many ... " to quote jassa. jassa what you chatin bout? u have never read Sikh history ? when abdali came to panjab to loot/fight what did the sikhs usually do ? Vacate Lahore and go to the safety of the lakhi jungle. Where did Dal Khalsa go for safety in those times? in northern rajasthan in the jungle. Why did Guru Ji make the chamkour into a garhi? for safety. Why did Baba Santa Singh Ji have police bodyguards ? for safety. are you gettin my point yet? Ran-niti does not dictate that you need to put your head into the lions mouth. I thought you of all people being a Nihang would have known that. chatanga
  23. Both were mone untl they got caught. They wouldnt have been able to do half the things they did in bana. Read " jail chithia" about their lives. its in panjabi.
  24. So Baba Banda Singh, the misls after him including baba Deep Singh, Nawab Kapur Singh, Maharaja Ranjit Singh and all othe Sikh kings went against gurmat by creating their own raaj? Having Raaj is not against Gurmat. In these days its even more essential especailly if you live under ravan raaj , like in india. India is the mother that kills its children. India is the snake that eats its offspring. chatanga
  25. what do you expect in ravan raj? do youexpect ravan sena do have any compassion? chatanga
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