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  1. It is Uttrang Kaur, (Aitken's daughter), and she made a name for herself in her Anandpur locality for being an eco-warrior. She is giving a good message but in a poor fashion. Gurdwaras should be doing more to be eco-aware and recylcing, but eco-awareness is not something elder Panjabis are aware of, given the state of Panjabs soil, water and air. She needs to get the younger Sikhs to take these initiatives on more.
  2. I hope that whichever group Parmjit Singh Rana belongs to gets in. I don't know much about any of the others, but Rana Sahib has done a lot to counter the mischief caused by Sarna and his missionary group. No more dhundas and jachaks. Paramjit Singh Rana has done a lot to get kathavachaks like Bhai Banta Singh doing more katha of Dasam Patshah's Granth Sahib in Delhi gurdwaras.
  3. Here I would take shaastar to mean "law". Is this online ? I have never jeard of it being translated into english before. It is translated to read that, but it is a poor translation of it. What do you feel about this text looking at the translation 5 years on Dal?
  4. From your previous posts on this forum, it is easy to tell you dislike the type of Singhs who stood up and stopped further slander of Charitrpakhyan from being said. Looking at the OP it is evident she had no logic or rationale but wanted to post lies here. Singhs stood their ground and she was exposed. You sided with her doing nindya of Guru Sahib teachings by trying to divert the subject and you were exposed. For the future you should keep your own malicious agenda to yourself and let the Singhs handle guru nindaks. Its obvious you won't.
  5. Thanks I wsa searching for that video.
  6. Bhana ? Why allow any association with Chandu?
  7. This is the same guy who stated that 10th Guru never wrote Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth. Professor Anurag Singh did a presentation on Bal's lies, and called for him to have a debate with him. Bal refused obviously, and you can see why, the guy can't even put a sentence of Panjabi together.
  8. Any old port in a storm Mr Singh!
  9. Who would even go to that forum, if they wanted to learn about Gurmat anyway?
  10. It was supposed to have one. But it was decommissioned on the day, the final partition was announced. So there was no-one to appeal to after partition happened. The criminal british did it on purpose. First it was hthe Brahmans, now its the British? The Sikhs of West Panjab did little more than defend their own lives and hope to reach East Pakistan. This was one of his biggest blunders. The Sikhs had to pay a huge price for this. Still I like the way you have said "many Sikhs" when there was around 7000 killed. By being the first person to be jailed in a free India for sedition? You worry me. A lot. Your perception of history is based on some kind of paranoia. You can't blame others for everything all the time. we Sikhs made many mistakes over this period. But to say it was down to some conspiracy by the Brahmans or the criminal british is poor. Read about his life and you will find out.
  11. The British were of the opinion that Panjab should remain undivided and go completely to Pakistan. But <banned word filter activated> was the Congress who using Jinnah's own weapon against him, stating that as the Muslim majority areas cannot be forced to live under India (as part of the two-nation theory) Non-muslim majority areas could not be forced to live under pakistan rule. The British agreed with this and agreed to partition the two states of Panjab and Bengal. So the two main states, Panjab and Bengal were divided in a similair fashion. The Sikhs never launched any agitation that I know of against ML minority govt, as the muslim league were denied the opportunity to form a govt by the Panjab Secretary who invoked Governor's law after the muslim league brought down the Unionist govt. The muslim league only had 80 mps out of 178 so they couldn't form a government in Panjab by themselves. Governor Jenkins many times refused them on this basis. What the Sikhs were doing in east Panjab was trying to kill as many muslims as they could whilst they had the chance to, and the West Panjab Sikhs were trying to escape with their lives. At that time, the East Panjab Sikhs should have focused on the border villages of Lahore/Amritsar/Gurdaspur that held important Sikh shrines such as Kartarpur etc. They should have occupied these villages and refused to let them go to pakistan. We have all seen what a mess the pakistanis have made of Sikh heritage there.
  12. IN an ideal world the Sikh states and the Panjabi Sikhs wold have joined hands. But the Sikh states, esp Patiala, were more pro-Britihs than pro-Sikh. The Maharaja of Patiala and Master Tara Singh never got on. Patiala always supported the British over the SGPC and Akali Dal. Concerning the Kingdoms/princely states, Mountbatten gave them two ultimatums: join India or Pakistan. None were given a third option. If a huge Kingdom such as Hyderabad couldn't hold out against India, despite being 10 times bigger than all the Sikhs states put together, how could the Sikh Kingdoms?
  13. Guru Gobind Singh has not written that anywhere, and there is a chance he may have said it. The quote is also attributed to Sardar Jassa SIngh Alhuwalia, but above all it's a quote from Prachin Panth Parkash. Khushwant Singh is a cretin. His books are trading a fine line between sneering and outright contempt at the Sikh faith, the Sikh people, and Sikh future. As i said before the Sikhs did not resisit partition, they were the ones who called for it in Panjab. I'm on planet earth and i will tell you that it was Chandu Lal Trivedi who called the Sikhs a criminal tribe. Now if you are still claiming it was Nehru, please tell us what planet you are from? Unknown failed teacher? You show your ignorance of his life. Master Tara Singh was not unknown, and not failed either. I don't know what you've read, but the partition had already happened and the PBF was there to ensure the peace. How could a body that was created to help with a smooth partition actually prevent, or accelerate partition? Ok, so now you have moved from 1947 to 1849?
  14. Guru Sahib never stated it. I don't know what books you have been reading, but you're wrong. It was the Sikhs who wanted partition of Panjab to stop ALL of Panjab going to Pakistan. No he didn't. Master Tara Singh was no agent. He was just not politically shrewd or longsighted. But he wasn't an agent. The PBF was a hopeless force from day 1. It was wound up after 2 weeks because it was so ineffective. They did have one major encounter with a sikh jatha in Amritsar, where they killed about 62 Sikhs from the jatha. Your post seems quite full of hysteria more than anything. What books have you read about partition?
  15. Yes, it was subjects like these that made the forum enjoyable. I learned so much from the work that we looked at collectively. Going back to the mad uncle, it was a blessing in disguide having him there, as he in a perverse way, actually got us to look at older historical texts by oursleves rather than just beleiving whatever had been writtne prior. Cha and lassi... had forgotten about that.