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  1. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

    Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

    Singh ji, where did you scanned volume 1 ?? 

    On 21/11/2012 at 5:55 AM, ElusiveFighter said:

    I have both volumes.

    Will make them available via a new websitein a few months after they have been scanned, along with a few other rare Gurmat Sangeet granths. It's about time certain people stopped having a monopoly on Sikh resources which should be the inheritance of the whole panth (as was originally intended).

    Ustaad Sital Singh Sitara has also recently released a book on all the raags of sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

    At the same time, we should generously create demand for more quality work by 'purchasnig' good books, good kirtan, good kathhaa etc, in order to ensure the sevadars are able to have a decent living and provide for their kids (duty of grisht). If sevadars are able to commit full time to seva, then the quality of seva will be so much higher.

    Only out of print or books where the author has expired should be scanned/digitised/OCRd, and where the author is alive, then done with their permission. There is no point being 'Khalsa' if the most basic of ethics elude us.

    Don't despair, inspire to share.

    :-)

     

  2. 20 hours ago, simran345 said:

    Don't know, never heard of that one. Was it USA based? 

    hanji USA based, if only i knew which gurudwara ..i cud contact them

    20 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

    I'll be straight honest I've never heard of this before, but I do think there could be alternatives 

    this site has been mentioned in this forum few times ( below are the posts mentioning longislandkeertan site). Infact, a memeber of this forum is/was the member of longislandkeertan.

    maybe someone is able to contact them and wud know whether the content has been moved to another site?

     

  3. Wjkk wjkf

    I need contact information for Amrit sanchar by ajnala damdami taksal

    And where is Amrit sanchar done by mohan Singh bhindrawale ji? Is it in boparai kalan? I wud need there contact info too if possible.

    When is the Amrit sanchar in January?? Any particular dates?

    I m planning to come to India in the week of amrit sanchar. So I have to book tickets.

    Thanksss

  4. Right to Freedom of Religion

    25. (1) Subject to public order, morality and health

    and to the other provisions of this Part, all persons are

    equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right

    freely to profess, practise and propagate religion.

    (2) Nothing in this article shall affect the operation

    of any existing law or prevent the State from making

    any law—

    (a) regulating or restricting any economic, financial,

    political or other secular activity which may be

    associated with religious practice;

    (b) providing for social welfare and reform or the

    throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of a

    public character to all classes and sections of Hindus.

    Explanation I.—The wearing and carrying of kirpans

    shall be deemed to be included in the profession of the

    Sikh religion.

    Explanation II.—In sub-clause (b) of clause (2), the

    reference to Hindus shall be construed as including a

    reference to persons professing the Sikh, Jaina or

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  5. Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal,

    Dear all and curious_man Jee,

    Thanks for your explanation.

    I hope I have understood it correctly.

    1 is Brahm and all rest that are written are the definition and explanation of 1.

    Hanji, Balbir ji you have understood it correctly.

    Singh 12356777 Jee wrote "It is in the shape of the sword but it also means that Akaal purkh is the sword."

    In my opinion, he meant that sword is a metaphotical meaning of Akaal Purakh. Just like Dayalu, kripalu, etc. Sword here means the shakti.. in simple terms, that One is the shkati or power or cause for everything. How? Thats explained in whole Gurbani.

    Don't take sword to be literal, its like saying Balbir Singh is like his father, does it mean you have become "father"? No. That means you just have some characteristics (shakal soorat, or chaal, or the way you talk, etc) which is similar to your father.

    Hence, generally the Nihang samprada, being trained in martial arts, relate 1 with the sword (shakti) in just a pictorial metaphor, because its in their nature. A businessman, will try to see profit/loss in daily activities, while a scientist wud try to reason, hence a martial artist would try to see martial aspects and be happy :)

    You wrote ". . . everything is one ,"

    So, Akaal purkh is also one of everything. Isn't it?

    Also, will it be enough if I carry a piece of paper written 1 on it when I fly. I have heard Airlines do not allow a real sword on planes.

    Balbir Singh

    Again you are taking it literally. For example, there is nothing wrong if someone says steam, ice, waves, drops, ocean is nothing but water from the substratum point of view. Similalry, everything is 1, because that 1 = Brahm, is the substratum, or basis, of everything in this universe. How? Again Gurbani further explains that.

    :biggrin2:

  6. Mehtab ji, as you know there is a disagreement between scholars of the panth regarding 17 or 11 Bhatts.

    Basically sampradas, kavi Santokh Singh ji, bhai Vir Singh ji etc.. say 17.

    While Prof Sahib Singh and scholars after them say 11.

    Pandit Kartar Singh Dakha say 19!!

    Moreover, regarding the pics shown above, they don't give any decision since (read my previous post) even the spellings of svayie and extra || are mismatched. so there is certainly some copy error. Hence, not good examples.

    so is it Tal or Kal? - I dont know. Since the printed saroops have Tal, hece in my opinion I would read as Tal.

    :)

  7. Some Gurmukh pyara did not copy it correctly.. as u see it after Ik Oankaar Satigur Prasaadi|| the second pic has two extra || and spelling of savaiye is different in both pics. so thts a copy error and can be applied to kal/tal as well. thts y majority is used and majority of granths have Tal.

  8. May I ask why so many more letters and numbers are added to 1?

    Balbir Singh

    Balbir ji, 1 is vaachak for Brahm because thats the vishya anubandh (topic or matter of discussion) laid down by our Guruji.

    For example, if we open a book on organic chemistry, lets say the title of the first chapter is Carbon, then you get to know that organic chemistry is all about carbon. Then it goes into detail for explaining what it wants to tell about carbon in the chapter and further in all chapters.

    Similalry, Guru Granth Sahib ji starts with 1, so question comes to mind what is 1? That 1 is Brahm.

    How do you get to know that it is Brahm and not anything else?

    Well, if we continue the example as above, the title of chapter 1 is Carbon. Ok, what if someone doesn't know anything about carbon?

    Lets say the book is meant for graduate students. Still, it gives the basic definition of carbon atom and its structure, discovery etc in beginning of first chapter, or atleast a paragraph, even though for a graduate student it might seem redundant. Hence, if there is a slight doubt in student's mind that organic chemistry is not about carbon, then by reading the first paragraph or the whole book he/she can say that organic chemistry is all about carbon.

    In the same way, to make sure that 1 is indeed a vaachak for Brahm and nothing else, whole Guru Granth Sahib is there to be read. If not whole, then atleast with just Mool Mantar any doubt regarding 1 not being Brahm will be cleared.

    :)Good question though!

  9. theres no way you can read every sihari and onkar as the flow of the paat becomes slow and broken it loses its chaal. I believe they are there for arth purposes. I would emphazise not to read them. Just look at how slow and be -ras Bhagat Jasvant Singh Dodar Canadavale's paat is who read all the siharee's and onkar' and then see how beautiful the jaap is by Bhai Jarnail Singh Damdami TaksalVal

    pal ji... thts just your opinion tht Bhagatji's paath ucharan is "slow and be-ras". tht paath is for practice for santhiya.. ask jarnail singh ji (whose paath u find is very rasila) and he will tell u abt bhagatji's ucharan.. u will be surprised..... even when u learn something like vaaja it indeed sounds "be-ras"..

    with proper santhiya u can read paath fast and with subtle sounds of aunkars and sihari.. u will never miss any lagmatra and u will see it wont break the chaal and lay. talk with any senior DDT gursikhs.. and they will tell u abt how high respect of santhiya they have for bhagatji... even gyani thakur singh took santhiya with him.. thts other thing that he doesnt teach to pronounce lagmatras because it sounds "be-ras" to general public..

    infact listen to jaap sahib by a nihang with all the proper chaal of various chandds .. i guess u will say tht jasvant singh ji's jaap sahib style is beautiful..:p

  10. please visit www.gursevak.com for complete santhya as per sant gurbachan singh ji DDT

    ..it has all santhya in form of pothis and pdf.. audio/video for sehaj paath and audio/video for pothis

    ..gurmukhi writing styles

    ..health stuff

    ... pothis on santhya.. teaching pronunciation

    ...arths of sukhmani sahib, humility shabads, baba fareed ji and kabeer ji..

    lots more :D

  11. WJKK WJKF

    its good to see the chardikala of bhai gurbaksh singh ji.. i m totally supporting him for this cause.. i m not offending him in anyway.. i have great respect for him..

    but just a question for our future.. y we sikhs have opted for this hunger strike style protest.. like i m not complaining ..just want to assure myself... becoz we know this govt and badal and this system will not change.. even if he dies it would be like a fly has dead and the system will remain same...

    y dont we sikhs just give a kick in the butt of such a sarkar.. do not vote at all for anyone .. do not let pass any legislative bill.. just protest ..stop the work.. stop going to govt offices.. stop driving taxis trucks.. stop working on farms.. stop the money exchange.. their are hundreds of ways..

    y the need of hunger strike.. yes he is still in chardikala.. thts because he must be a pure at heart gursikh.. no doubt in that.. he will surely accept death smilingly... but what wud be the result.. one more added in the list of shaheedi.. and the time goes on..!!

    its soo frustrating... i feel like crying and sometimes angry..

  12. For Waheguru ji.. its all a HIS game.. tamasha!!

    if we as kids are playing on the beach.. we built many sand castles happily.. and smash it happily

    so .. yes holocaust.. or ram raaj.. doesnt matter to Waheguru ji.. He is enjoying the play of HIS toys (jagat, jiv).. whether they fight or love.. and according to our deeds or karams HE bestows "gifts" (sukh or dukh)...

    thts y HE is said Nirgun!!

    but for best players of the game -

    1.mahapurakhs (HE gives the best gifts - brahamanand, or makes them His own saroop, or even gives darshan or help them in HIS Sargun form)

    2.mahaevil (HE also gives them His best gifts from the other side of spectrum.. thats terrible joons, terrible pain, terrible death..etc)

    the more we read/listen Gurbani.. the more we will tend towards Guru's teachings and our free-will would turn towards doing good deeds.. if not in this life.. then in future lifes as our sanskars will be full of impressions of gurus teachings..

    So.. as I said.. HE is truly Wahe.. its better if we increase the prema bhagti in our minds and be the best players of the game (1. or 2. thats ure choice)!!

  13. WJKK WJKF

    an example: u know that hydrogen consists of one proton and one electron.. how many of us have actually seen or experienced or witnessed it?

    we just know it cuz its in our science books. only if we go deep and somehow get hold of electron microscope or we get to masters or PhD level only then we can really "experience it".

    similarly we only "know" what hukam is (infact, many of us dont even know it), but still if assumed we just know it as we know the hydrogen atom in the above example. only very few elevated souls have really witnessed the hukam (the will of Akaal Purakh) and when witnessed, it becomes hard to explain as explaining theory of relativity to grade 1 students.

    so yes, Guru ji reminds us wht the hukam is.. Guru ji tells us that hukam is with u and its naam, its simran, its remembrance of akaal purakh.

    since Guru ji reminds us again and again to do simran, to do good deeds this proves that we have a free will and we do get away from the path of anand!!

    but everything is under guru's hukam.. right?? confused???

    yes - everything is under HIS command!! and u know what .. even "our" so called free-will is also under HIS command!!

    a dog can say that i can roam freely in the backyard.. but in reality its the owner who has let the dog to raom freely in backyard.

    so great saints have said that ..hey waheguruji... yes , we have free will but this free will is given by YOU.. hence waheguru ji ..everything is from YOU.. everything is under YOU!!

    hope it clarifies the doubts.. and we drop on on the feet of gur shabad.. and our free will becomes prema bhagti which is guru's huakam and then we will see that indeed our will is God's will !!

    WJKK WJKF

    ************************** its really a good topic :)

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