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  1. You misunderstand. The SGPC especially now when it is controlled by the Badals will never work on such a project. It can only happen when the Panth takes back control of the SGPC when the next elections take place. This why Jathebandis like Waris Punjab De are important as are others who have been striving to spread awareness about the need to take back control of the SGPC from the Badals. Only with Panthic control will be truly know just what the real income of the SGPC is, there being no doubt that money is siphoned off by the Badals and their cronies and income is shown as far below what it actually is. Also there are thousands of acres of land that the SGPC owns which are given on maamla to their cronies for a couple of thousand rupees when the going rate is 30-40,000 rupees per acre. The truth will only come out with Panthic control of the SGPC.
  2. Their whole income is the sale of milk. During lockdown there was a boycott against their milk in a few places in Punjab and even Al Jazeera and the New York Times reported on this, then the liberal hara.mis got involved and got the boycott stopped by the administration. If a boycott is started all over Punjab these people would have no income and they would eventually leave Punjab or at least the rural areas. Muslim farmers in Punjab are facing boycott and Tablighi Jamaat must be blamed for this (tfipost.com)
  3. Bhaiiyas have been coming to Punjab since the late 70s and migration to Punjab for them has become the norm, Sikligars and Vanjaras have never been to Punjab apart from some Dharmik Yatras organised by Sikh organisations. British Sikh Council which has been building Gurdwaras for them in their Tandas has been looking at relocating some to Punjab but the problem is that they are used to their lifestyle of living in Tandas away from cities and towns. It will take time to create an urge in them to come and settle in Punjab as well as resources to make their settlement in Punjab a success. Personally I feel that the only way this can happen is if the SGPC is under Panthic control. The SGPC has the funds as well as the land holdings to create employment opportunities for them in both their traditional jobs as well as create linkages between them and the Kisans for them to work as labour for Kisans. This is why this year is so important, the loss of Badal has created an impetus which could never be created before to take back control of the SGPC. That is why if you have relatives who are Keshdhari in Punjab, you should make sure that they register for their votes.
  4. I think we don't even have to get involved so much, watch this video which is about when some Hindutvis protested against Muslay coming out of the Mosque every Friday shouting the slogan "Allah Hu Akbar", look at how our so called Panthic media and Panthic leadership went running to stand with the Muslims. What do we gain from this? These people will never support us if we face any issues and they stood with the Kashmiri paedophile last year and yet we bend over backwards for them.
  5. I agree with you 100%. On our side we need to unite and we need to have Panthic organisations similar to the RSS and Bajrang Dal. Until the gandh of the Badal took over Akali Dal we have Jathas attached to each Gurdwara and we could count on getting a couple of thousand Sikhs together at short notice. The lack of mobiisation is what we suffer from. If on the first day when the events happened 5000 Sikhs had gathered around the village, the local administration and the police would have wet themselves and been running around seeking a resolution to the issue. So instead of them writing out FIRs against the kisans we could have used the threat of mob violence to make sure the FIRs were just for manslaughter and not murder and our people could have got out on bail in a few days instead of them being on the run or afterwards facing languishing in jail for years before betting bail. We still do not understand the power of the mob in the Indian political system. The Gujjars understood this so they not only managed to get all the FIRs registered against the Kisans but also stopped any FIRs against the Gujjars who had attacked the Sarpanchni's husband and left him half dead. Amritpal Singh Sandhu is now the president of Waris Punjab De and his take on this issue is one I don't think any Sikh will have any objections to.
  6. That's a question that came to my mind, this will put these Hinduvis into quite a quandary, but I think that essentially they will support us. This is probably the best time to sort out the problem of these Gujjars, if you read all the comments online the 90% of apnay and Hindus are supporting the Kisans. It is interesting that these comrades are playing their dirty games with this issue as well as Jatinder Chinna of Kirti Kisan Union and supporting the Gujjars. He got confronted by Sikhs while he was trying to take the side of the Gujjars. I wrote a few months ago that we need to unite as a people and we need to confront the liberals and their allies because they people have shown that they will always stand with the Muslims against us. I think people are definitely waking up in Punjab. The fact that Ravi Singh and his KA clowns have kept out is that they know that the issue is one where no amount of BS Punjabiyat and Bhaicharak sanjh will undo the damage the Gujjars have done.
  7. One thing that I have noticed on this forum is that there are some people who use the forum to grind their personal axes, these being mainly Daily, MisterSingh and CaliforniaSardar who based on what personal experiences they have had determines what they think of Punjab and Punjabis (Jats in Daily's case and Sikh women in general in CS,s case). The person who wrote this rant has some very serious personal issues and these are best resolved by him outside of the forum. From what I gather from previous posts, it was freshies flexing at his Gurdwara and then I think land issues in Punjab. Using these experiences to post drivel like Punjab is finished shows that there is no even an iota of sympathy for his own people in this person especially, even Daily at least gives some constructive solutions but people like MisterSingh are here to spread their negativity and any of our enemies who reads these types of posts will think that Sikhs have already given up. This guy is the very opposite of Chardi Kala.
  8. Contrary to the usual detractors (pendu this pendu that) with a axe to grind, our people are incredibly resourceful and ambitious if given the right conditions, the main one being a corruption free political/bureaucratic system. Hopefully if AAP lives up to their claims and provides such an atmosphere then the Punjab could turn the corner and again become a prosperous state.
  9. You do know that the horror stories are what get the tongues wagging and hence the perception that these horror stories are the norm.
  10. It's not just the physical, it's how you carry yourself and what your self confidence is like. To be honest, your posts about not getting a wife does show that you lack self confidence and if that is true then your body language will show a woman exactly how confident you are and you will already have lost even before you speak to her. If you want to gain confidence I would suggest you think about taking up boxing. It gives you a lot of confidence and the gait of a boxer appeals to many women. Even if it doesn't and the woman still rejects you then you could follow her and beat up the guy she rejected you for!!
  11. Ok, I will see your 'prince with the natives' and raise you 'Rasta demands reparations'
  12. The political atmosphere is Punjab is heating up. The fact that AAP won has added to the sense that anything is possible now. The SGPC has stated to act very Panthic now but not amount of pro-Panth statements will stop them from suffering the same fate as their master Badal. The attempt to reignite the Kisan andolan is interesting, one of their demands is to withdraw the history books which present Sikh history and Sikh Gurus in a poor light. I say Interesting because the leaders now understand that an andolan has to have support from the Panth otherwise it fail before it has even started. The youth especially have been getting more politically engaged, the fact that Kultar Singh Sadhwan the Punjab speaker who incidentally is the grandson of Giani Zail Singh apologised so quickly to the Akal Takht Jathedar after a video of him undergoing a ceremony where a Bahman waved a cow's tail on his turban shows that he understands that excuses that were used before that politicians need to keep all sections of society happy won't wash anymore. The Delhi based Giani who presented a Siropa to Modi when he met 'sikhs' along with MS Sirsa was stopped from doing Katha at a gurdwara in Sohana in Punjab. The Sangat did not confront him or physically stop him in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib, they started to do Naam Jaap as soon as he started his katha. The Naam Jaap went on for a few minutes and ended with a jaikara. Then a member of the Sangat said that those who give siropas to Modi will not be allowed to do katha at the Gurdwara. The Giani seeing that he would not be able to do katha, left the stage although he was later confronted by some youths when he was starting to leave the Gurdwara premises.
  13. I agree that Bhagat Singh is propped up the Indian media but you second point I cannot disagree with more, I have never met a mona who justified him being a mona on Bhagat Singh! I
  14. To be honest the average Sikh has no idea what Bhagat Singh's ideology was or what his struggle was. They just know he was hanged by the British for fighting for independence. This is about the sum total of their knowledge. The comrades are more knowledgeable in that they know that he was an atheist, he wanted Sikhs to give up Punjabi and he wanted Hindi to the language of India and even wrote an essay on it when he was younger and he never revised his opinion. He had links to Arya Samaj, he shot the wrong British police officer who he thought had beaten Lala Lajpat Rai with a lathi resulting in his death. In fact it is commonly believed the Lala died of a heart attack soon after the attack. Lala Lajpat Rai was a top Arya Samaj leader. Bhagat Singh also shot a Sikh constable Chanan Singh who attempted to apprehend Bhagat Singh when he shot the British police officer. The comrades never want a debate on Bhagat Singh and his ideology because they know that if the truth of Bhagat Singh's ideology comes out then he will lose mass support among common Sikhs.
  15. Look at this attempt to look like some Viceroy come to see the natives!
  16. Although not related to Sikhi but I thought it was interesting how the world has changed over the last few years. Back then these two sometimes called the best loved royals after the Queen would have been mobbed and their tour would have been a guaranteed success. Here is a right wing gora trying to blame the BLM activists for hijacking the tour. The blanking of Kate by the Jamaican politician is a classic.
  17. It is mainly the leftist and Ambedkarites who have taken the side of the Gujjars, the usual anti-Jat, anti-Sikh crowd. Most Punjabis know what these Gujjars are like. The lack of coverage by Panthic media is disappointing. The Gurbani Akhand Bani channel which has been very good in covering Panthic issues has not posted any videos. The irony is that when some Hindus protested against the Namaz at a Hoshiarpur mosque this channel had their video cameras there and interviewed the Muslims the next day. The good thing is that if you read the comments on the youtube videos at least 90% are supportive of the villagers and many are even saying what was unthinkable even a few months ago, that these Gujjars need to be kicked out of Punjab. The other 10% are Muslims, leftists and the usual 'bahut bura hoiya' id.iots. The youth of Punjab and becoming more aware and now understand that if we don't get our act together we could lose Punjab in a few years time. Here is a video of the attack on the farmers' houses when they threatened the farmers' wives with rape.
  18. I would have thought they would have waited until they were at least 5% of the population before they tried anything. 2 killed, 10 injured as farmers, Gujjars clash in Majitha village - Hindustan Times
  19. I would be dubious of such stories because many falsehoods were spread by the British to try and paint the Sikh royal family members as illegitimate so as to support their own claim to Punjab after annexation.
  20. This what they are told behind closed doors. No wonder they display such hatred towards us and yet our leaders never tire of showing solidarity with these people. I have always said, we need Sikh-Sikh Bhai Bhai and not fake slogans like Sikh-Hindu Bhai Bhai or Sikh-Muslim Bhai Bhai. This is why I could not care less that their school girls are can't wear Hijab in Karnataka. Them having to fight this battle means that they are expending their time and resources so they have less time for their usual mischief. If the Hindus come after us after they have dealt with the Muslims then so be it, be strong and organise but don't lose time and energy on showing solidarity to these people, let them feel the heat.
  21. Since you are such an expert on Punjab, please share your wisdom regarding what should have been the Sikh response to the annexation in 1849? It should make for an interesting discussion.
  22. I remember our armchair expert was waxing lyrical a few years ago about a Khalsa army general and how great he was during the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, but when I pointed out that in 1857 he had joined the British and fought for them in UP our armchair expert revised his opinion and said the former Khalsa general was a gaddar..lol. Armchair experts especially those whose only experience of Punjab is through reading books and who are many thousands of miles away from Punjab tend to have a very binary view of any situation or individual.
  23. This something that armchair experts who have no experience of rural Punjab fail to understand. After 1857, the Sikhs were in competition with the more numerous Muslims and Hindus of Punjab. What our armchair expert thinks our people should have done is stayed out the British administration and army and fought back against the British. The Muslims and Hindus would have loved that, the Muslims especially would have cornered the army and police jobs and relished having the British to back them while they enacted another genocide against us.
  24. The real anti-Hindu violence was after 1984, prior to 1984 the Hindus who were killed and for which action the Kharkoos took credit were anti-Sikh Hindus like Lala Jagat Narain and his son Ramesh Chander. BJP leaders like Harbans Rai Khanna who had vandalised the model of Harmandir Sahib at Amritsar railway station. There were killing on buses but unknown organisations like Dasmesh regiment too credit for it and it is likely these killings were by Indian agencies. Bluestar was justified by the Indian government and Indian media by using the excuse that Sikhs were intent on driving Hindus out of Punjab and force Sikhs from outside Punjab to move to Punjab. Even though none of this was the case pre-1984, it became a self fulfilling prophecy because when Sikhs started the migrate to Punjab after 1984 genocide, then Kharkoos would have been less interested in keeping Hindus in the villages of Punjab.
  25. Your family history is the history of the majority of our people. My grandfather's younger brother also fought in the trenches of northern France. Unfortunately his didn't survive the war and became Shaheed in 1915. We have a matti in our village to commemorate him. His name is written at the Indian war memorial at Neuve Chapelle. Before Corona we used to visit that memorial every year on his death anniversary. There is a visitors book there and there were so many comments by apnay whose ancestors fought in the battle and have visited the memorial from countries like UK, Canada and USA. http://www.radcliffeontrentww1.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sikhs.png
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