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URGENT: Volunteers Needed for Surrey Nagar Kirtan!
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Update: The Vancouver Nagar Kirtan was a success, now we are preparing for the Surrey Nagar Kirtan, and it’s going to be a big one! -
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! If you are going to attend the Surrey Nagar Kirtan and wish to volunteer with Basics of Sikhi, please message me ASAP!
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Like Naamdharis @MrDoaba is Triggered
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You have no idea how much Ranjit “Singh” damaged the Sikh Psyche. He was boarderline ritualistic, and even very superstitious. He got played by the Hindus and even changed the colour of the Khalsa Nishan Sahib from Guru Hargobind’s Basanti to Orange.
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The Khalsa Panth had not, the General Sikh/Punjabi community did, sadly the once noble Khalsa titles that were earned have now become a cultural name.
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Their character already speaks for itself. Maharaja Ranjit “Singh’s” era was so bad for Sikhi that it took the Singh Sabah Movement to stop the corruption, some of which still remains today. That by itself says a lot.
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Raag Mala is a major one, there are also controversies some people (a minority) bring up regarding Bhagat Bani’s PS: Before anyone strawman’s me again I just wanna state that I believe In Bhagat Banis and Dasam Granth
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We can never be certain because the original Saroop that was verrefied by the Guru was lost, and even the Saroops that are attributed to Baba Deep Singh are said to have differences. Im surprised how the Panth lost the original Saroop only 100-200 years after its creation. For a Dharam that often times prides itself on how it’s founder wrote its central text, we have done a horrible job, and the enemies of the Panth will exploit this (anti Sikh, Muslim site even talks about this).
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The last topic I created was about 10 days ago, and I would not consider posting a new topic after such a period to be going too fast.
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@Balkaar
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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I have heard conflicting information regarding Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s wife Jind “Kaur” (only a Kaur in name). Shes often praised and seen as a role model for Kaurs. However, recently I have seen people say that she was corrupt and sleeping with the Dogra’s. What do you guys think?
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* Reincarnation
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Why are so many people getting mad over this issue? Maryada is not set in stone like Gurbani is, Maryada is meant to change over time. The Khalsa Panth is built to function like a constantly evolving organism that adapts to the current age. Innovation must not be shunned, innovation (to Rehat, not Bani) is nesesary or else we lose.
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Why do you want them to delete ALL you posts? Do you have something to hide? If your just taking your leave, and you believe your views are correct, why have them deleted? Things are aren’t adding up...
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Everyone claims to have their own version of the "true maryada" from the Guru, ironically, one persons true maryada conflicts with another.
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This guy is a legend!
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Here is a good post that talks about this issue, but it was written back in 2012:
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This is a common theme that you will refer to in this and your other comments. You keep on trying to state that I’m being rude to the Guru, but aren’t even showing an example. What did I say that’s so rude to the Guru? Or is merely asking a question rude? Also even if the question isn’t for me, at least answer it for the record for everyone else. I asked a question. If my wording is “rude”, I apologize, but you don’t even care to show me an example, yet keep bringing it up. How is my wording rude? You’re acting as if I wrote to the Guru or something. Yes, I am the enemy of the Panth by telling Sikhs not to commit terrorism, or do rituals, and other weird stuff. Yes, I am the enemy of the Panth by asking a simple question. Maybe any of the videos or organizations that I frequently promote are also enemies of the Panth. In addition to myself, I would love to see you prove how Basics of Sikhi and Nanak Naam are also enemies of the Panth. Is that why so many people in the AJK Jatha doubt authenticity of Raag Mala? Does Bhai Randhir Singh or the entire AKJ Jatha not have respect? I’m guessing anyone who doesn’t align with your specific views has no sharda.
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Can anyone answer this?
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Why are you still here? Honour your word and please take your leave.
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Simply eating meat isn’t “puteh karam”. First off, I’m not part of any pro meat Jatha, stop assuming things about me. Second, meat isn’t just for when Sikhs are being persecuted. There is an entire Jhatka Maryada built around this, but you wouldn’t care because you cherry pick Sikhi and Khalsa Maryada. Third, no one, literaly no one, is saying eating Jhatka makes you a Sikh. Following Sikhi makes you a Sikh, and Sikhi isn’t against meat, History is clear.
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Why are you so rude? All you have to do is provide me proof.
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If we had the oldest copy, then we wouldn’t any contriverces like we do today.
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Thats the thing, I dont know. Baba Deep Singh allegedly wrote 4 saroops, but the ones attributed to him have differances in them.
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WARNING: IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMMENT ON MY POSTS, PLEASE BE MATURE AND ONLY USE FACTS, NO DRAMA PLEASE Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Sikhs often love to claim that their "holy book" (Ignore the Abrehamic context) was written and sealed by its founders, and Sikhs still use the same version to this day. However, there have been numerous controversies over the validity of certain passages (you all know what im talking about). Since the original Saroop of the Guru that was written by Bhai Mani Singh Ji and overlooked by Guru Gobind Singh Ji at damdama sahib in 1708 has been lost, and numerious others were destroyed as recently as in 1984 by the Indian Government (they still refuse to give some back), how will have Sikhs preserved the Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?