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You can report me. You can get me removed. You can do a shabeel on me but the truth will never die. Someone else will say it and people like you will nkt be able to cope. Like you are struggling to cooe reading my replies. It is okay. Forums are not the only platform to do parchar. You guys keep proving how hot headed you are. Read gurbani singh. Maharajs gurbani.

Funny how you say that. Atleast follow guru granth sahib ji first. Gurbani says over and over again, stand by the truth. We dont listent to a word guru granth sahib ji tell us. We cant even speak up against evil and save our panth yet we get offended when someone goes against jathabandi stereotypes. Amusing. Of course i do not. I have prem for guru pita ji. I respect their bani. We dont need hinduism in our religion. I am not the only non missionary that believes that. I would never insult gurbani am i stupid. Of course you guys believe the hindu stories as gurbani.

Chatanga It is not up to you to label what is a lie and what is not. A lier to me is a mahapursh to you. Lol No my disapproval is he does manmat. He follows and encourages manmat at his dera. He has turned maharajs taksal into his own taksal. As result of that his true colours have surfaced and that has led him to oppose dhadrianwale. he brough his defeat upon himself. Maharaj knows how much faith i have. I do not care how much faith you think i have or have not. I hope maharaj give us all faith and stronger faith. Yes there is a time and place. I obviously disapprove people saying maharaj ate meat. And so forth. There are endless topics i disapprove. I didnt know this was the umbrella thread in which i am expected to write down each belief of mine. I would rather not drag missionaries down when other things need to be dealt with like gursikhs innocent lives. I havent opposed the missionaries? You havent opposed bhupinder singhs killings by taksal. You havent opposed the killing of the father or two young sons he was a parcharak. INNOCENT. Oh wait, you wouldnt! Because he has missionary links! Oh yeah. Of course. Lives dont matter as long as theyre not taksali....rise above jathabandis ji. I have always spoken my mind. You dont know me at all. Someone hasnot put a gun to my head telling me what to write. Everything i write is my mind my decision my beliefs. Okay. I need to go into detail then i guess. Back then Taksal did things, rituals like jyot, but they did them genuinely. The sharda for maharaj was above. They did certain things without following the ritual behind them. They didnt make the petty rituals the maryada. They didnt say you have to wear a gol pagh and no pajami. If someone did not follow the maryada the puratan singhs didnt go militant on them. Taksal was perfect. As in Taksal had the right morals and the aim was panthic!! They gave shaheedi! Taksal was a panthic jathebandi. Sant ji were panthdardi. dhumm is not panthdardi and nor does he have his life in gurmat . Over the years, things that the older singhs did genuinely have now become part of taksal. The taksal at sant jis time was Damdami taksal. You must enjoy my responses because you are obv making me repeat a lot. I do not mind repeating if it helps. Sant ji and the Damdami Taksal they led was perfect. You seem to be openly suporting the panth gadaar dhumma here. Hmmm. Interesting. Actually i supported a missionary comment as soon as the i started responding. I commented on dhundas video pretty early. My true colours are what they are. You dont like them and that is not my problem. In no way have i tried to hide my opinion. I am proud of my beliefs. I am proud that maharaj has given me insight into certain matters. I am thankful to not let taksal put wool over my eyes. You feel someone is closer to guru ji if they oppose missionary stories then? Just by Supporting the ancient mahapurshs and preach rituals? I feel someone is closer to guru ji if they make me feel a stronger connection with guru ji myself. I feel if someone makes me feel that way and gives me that boost and helps us live in the present then to me that is a guru ji da asli singh. Not by telling me how mahaan a killer is.

Chatanga, Yes. I believe that if maharaj want they can do anything. Maharaj can make missionaries see more sense. There is more hope there becsuse they are on the right track they have the right mindset. That is what i am saying. You just want me to bash missionaries and lick dhummas feet. I will not. Nevertheless, it is a panthic maryada. Get over it. Dhumma forced himself to be jathedar. What would you prefer? Should we all follow taksals hindu maryada and believe sahibzade are hindu avtars and sarovars cleanse us and jyots enligten our soul? That sand will purify and we should use sand to wash everything? That bhoras are sacred and taksal is higher than the panth? Should we argue against those who use bindiya and viakaran? Should we shoot missionaries? Should we hate on those who question the hindu stories mixed in dasam granth? Should we follow dhummas footsteps? Should we do barsis year after year after year just for the sake of it? Should we follow taksal? I chose PANTH. I am a SIKH. Open about your beliefs? To me you seem pretty concrete. How have i said anything secretive. I am saying in no way am i missionary or influenced by them. In no way am i taksali in no way am i nihang. We should tske the good from jathebandis and at this moment in time missionaries and akjs are the only ones with any goodness in them! Then again. After each and every response of yours you seem more adamant to try and prove me wrong. By all means go ahead and bash my views and call me rss and this and that.... it makes no difference to me because to me. Taksal was once perfect and it has now gone chaotic and hopeless.

These guys dont strive to better themselves they come to fight to seem hardcore singhs. The ask questions with no intention of bettering themself. Then they get so angry its funny. They do not strive to learn and improve they want everyone to sing their tune.

That badboy fantasy may be yours. Not everyone strives go be scary like dhumma. Some people have higher goals in life. 'Badboy?' You definitely remind me of the cuzzy bros at college. We shouldnt say boo to a goose. Whats the goose done to us? Yes we would do whatever maharaj wishes for us to if we came face to face with a nindak.

He is so intelligent his grammar is and sentence structure is perfect. He calls himself intelligent and doesnt know the basics of English.

Because you have nothing to back you up. We have maharaj ji to back us up. They are on our side. How do you know anything about our lives? Tackling gand spread by people like you is a duty as a sikh. Enjoy the goat say hello to him from me. ਸੁਆਦ ਲੁਭਤ ਇੰਦ੍ਰੀ ਰਸ ਪ੍ਰੇਰਿਓ ਮਦ ਰਸ ਲੈਤ ਬਿਕਾਰਿਓ ਰੇ ॥ ਕਰਮ ਭਾਗ ਸੰਤਨ ਸੰਗਾਨੇ ਕਾਸਟ ਲੋਹ ਉਧਾਰਿਓ ਰੇ ॥੩॥ Under the influence of taste and pleasures of sensory organs, one indulges in intoxicants and tasty food that take one to vices Ang 335 ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥ ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥ Whosoever takes Marijuana, fish and alcoholic drinks; all his pilgrimages, fasts and performance of religious practices shall go waste ang 1377 In life only gurbani will help you and give you strength. Not goats. Please read gurbani yourself and you will understand.

You mean it makes you more 'Chamleya' (hyper). Hate is a strong word. We are allowed to have opposing views. Its a free world. Losers? You portray yourself like a high school boy. Look at our role models our elder gursikhs the gursikhs the good parcharaks. They dress simple eat simple. "Sada pehnana sada khana". Parothe are healthy.

If only.

Yes agreed. Dhumma paid the shooter a lot of money. A lot of sangat money. Taksal would have gained respect if they killed sirsa wala or badal etc. Dhadrianwale is a flawless parcharak. The sangat can see it all for themselves.

Some taksalis speak up. Rare but there are a few. Other current taksalis believe dhumma is a satkaryog mahapursh cough cough. Some taksal 'supporters' believe sant never gave shaheedi and ran away and will come back when they are 200 years old and give khalistan. So they do not believe in jathedars. Some believe sant are not shaheed and still support dhumma. I cant get my head around that one. Others have made their own little branches and prefer to stay neutral because they dont habe the courage to oppose taksal. Their famous line is 'it is damdami taksal that 10th master created himself therefore i will do no nindya of what baba harnam singh does". The majority of taksalis as in mehta/bhindran ones support dhumma so what have they done? They have followed his plan and brought the drinks and done a shabeel accoring to his instructions. They have protected him. Charanjit singh his right man has openly promoted the killing. The taksalis who disapprove of dhumma have kept their distance like the ragis because dhumma is dangerous. He is not true sikh. What else have taksalis done. Well gave more and more open death threats and degraded taksal further.

If you want to you can. The bird was an accident. Sant didnt jhatka it. If you are aware you have driven over a cat yes you should do ardas and not cook it! Kaadar di kudrat. It is all part of gods creature and nature. The flower story tells us this moral. You love god? Then you should love gods creation. Gods light is in everyone. (Almost). Or do you guys accidently jhatka the animals like the way we accidently unknowingly walk on ants. In eating meat also comes the jhootham issues. It is proper jhooth and you are intentionally killing and eating. Then again, meat eaters wont understand and nor will they want to understand! Enjoy sharing animals jhooth. Ew.

Correct. Once sant kartar singh jis car hit a bird. The bird died. Sant ji was disheartened they stopped the car and the did a burial and ardas themselves. They didnt think 'oh lets eat it'

Extremely sad. The clouds of lies will not always hide the sun. Maharaj will punish them in due course i have faith they will.

That is not what maharaj do. That is not the way in which maharaj work. Maharaj know what we think say believe eat write do all our actions. Only maharaj knows if we (non meat eater) are giddars or you. Maharaj alone are the jugde to our actions. It is easy to name call but that degrades ones own character. Carry on.

Yes. Of course they wont try. Taksal has done maaf to sirsa wala. The head of rss? They adore this rss. Rss has snailed its way in turn to any direcrion Rss is almist everywhere. Current taksal has turned into rss headquarters. They only have energy to shoot when it comes down to dhadrianwale. You ask reasons they say 'sarovars...bhoras... this and that'. Yet rss is corrupting us our gurughar our jathebandis and these so called 'warrior militant singhs' believe everything is fine. They are totally blinded. Theyre in love with jathabandi. What you refer to as panth dhoki they see as their saviours.

That would be a lot of cooked meat in the end. Oh but it is all okay in the name of jhatka. Lol

Spot on. Lets see what he has to offer for the panth. Maybe he will do balli of a bakra. And he will be rememebered forever. (Sarcasm).

Beautifully put.

Agreed. Akjs and real nihangs like hareeya vela wale did so much pyar to bhindranwale. In this topic I do agree to a great extent with what Akalifauj says above regarding wartime: "chopping goats heads fof their tongue". How can a guru ji da sikh every justify such things. Also, yes at the time of battlefield singhs may have turned to it as a last resort but even still, it does not mean we should find any excuse to do so. Maharaj knows why the singhs did that and can we do their 'rees' they are on another avastha and maharaj do such things in their moaj. We can not always understand their reason or mouj. We dont follow the other basics, the singhs were of high character and by the way somome said the f*** word clearly that is not of a high clean character to use such foul and manmat language. Then you do rees of shaheed singhs in battle. Again, true. Shops dont sell loose animals for us to kill. It is a imvalid scenario to say 'what will happen in battle if we run out of food'. If maharaj was in battle today abroad who knows maybe they would not have let singhs eat meat. Who knows. Times change. I can see people disagreeing to what i will say now but i whole heartedly believe that maharaj did shikaar and hunting to make the animals mukat. Not to guide us to eat animals. Maharaj and the singhs were kind. Animals are innocent and killing innocemts is wrong whether it be a parcharak or even an ant. If you are going to do rees of shaheeds then go and give shaheedi. Go and live in the jungle in a forest in somewhere like himachal pardes. Silly trying to justify meat eaters.

Thing is can support who i want without being middionary. Oh lord. The 5 singh story is the story about sharda. You are easy to lecture me yet you dont know the famous sakhis. I think you were being sarcastic listing kps gill etc. There is hope with missionaries. If they have made mistakes there is hope. There is no hooe with dhumma he is a MURDERER. I think i have explained my stand pretty well. Parmeshardwar? You spend time picking faults so hows about you listen to the diwan before assuming. People who do will know they promote akal takht maryada. That is A panthic maryada. They say its not perfect but more perfect than other ones. Atleast it gets us all on onr platform! Dhumma wants taksal maryada at akal takht but that is a backward step and sangat most likely wont approve it anyway. He can try. Nope. Harnam singh puts himself first. Sarkari. We could continue this but yout beliefs wont change mine and mine wont change yours.

Chatanga. Either you do not seek answers but want to prove dhumma is good, or you are genuinely not getting anything we are saying. Point of the 5 singh sakhi, the moral is that we should seek to do darshan of maharaj through tyar bartyar chardikala singhs if we wish. This is when maharaj done jyoti jyot. I cannot explain it any simpler ji. No. You said kps gill is sabat surat. I made the comparison why your response is random. Your remark about being humble. We can br humble and have anakh and courage to speak up. Being humble doesnt mean keeping your hesd down and being apologetic. It is okay if you dont rate the response as humble. You are not the one putting our humbleness on a kasvatti. The best to me are the ones who are above the jathebandis and break free from the rituals. The best are who put panth at the heart of everything and live according to gurbani. Not according to personal maryadas. Badal came to Dhumma? Doesnt look like it. And even if he did sadly Dhumma didnt have the courage to turn him away. Sad days. I believe there should be no jathabandi. Yes i am a sikh, proudly.

Evidence above. Hot headed they get^ how can 'gursikhs' use foul language like reta**. You have no clue about me whatsoever so stop presuming you do. Taksal is not the blood line of khalsa. It is a jathabandi. Nothing more. I am not the person grabbing taksal by the throat. We all know dhumma is suffocating himself.