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  1. lol bro I have missed so many days since being busy on my machine learning course while working full time ?
  2. I think it was the east african tarkhans who started this parchar against jatts in the uk. I reckon most indian tarkhans are close to jatts culturally and socially, but some indian background tarkhans started behaving like their east African relatives. When the east african desis including many east african sikhs and punjabis came to uk, they gained such bad reputations amongst the still traditional sikh immigrants from india, because the east africa sikh women were known to have haircuts and also drinking, which clashed with the traditional punjabis. Now obviously things have changed for the worse for the former traditional families now as well! However, one of the worst thing is that east african sikhs compromised on maryada to please their british masters. I say sikhs insteads of tarkhans, because non-tarkhans also went to east africa and similarly compromised their values. I say this, because I know that some kenya sikh families are known to give pahul to their children at 6 years old, which is related to how traditional Singhs such as Nihangs Akalis also give bhujangis pahul at a young and similar age. They were probably descended from Nihang Singh ancestors, I wonder what the ancestors would say on compromising their maryada in the way I am writing the next paragraph?! I understand the british required sikhs to tie up their beards and wear standardised turban styles in the army, maybe this was required for the east Africa train workers as well? However, I can see (and even amongst current indian army sikhs) that the beards are kept tied up with fixo/simco even after work hours, and they have passed the anti-rehit practises down to their descendants as well, with some descendants getting fed up of the fixo routine and just trimming the darhi, actually in 2000s the tramline style was popular. But the worst breach of maryada is wearing a starch pagh which can be taken off and put back on like a topi, how can rehit be so compromised for work, and then they continued doing this outside of work and passed this to descendants, whilst being Amrit-dhari Singhs as well? I knew some kenya tarkhan background Singhs at uni, their parents gave them pahul at 6 years old, and didn't even teach their children how to read gurmukhi, the Singh was reading bani in English, like <banned word filter activated>??? Anyway, I am sure even if they were more non-tarkhans including more jatts immigrating to work for the goray in east africa, I am sure even they would also have compromised their values and sikhi, as can be seen happening in the pends now. However the hypocrisy pakhand shown by east africa/kenya tarkhans in the uk is unbelievable. As you mentioned, they want to be associated with Ramgharia misl even if many of them have no affiliation to the misl, to be honest the misl wasn't related to one caste or tribe, just that the last leaders were from tarkhan backgrounds. Many of them say they don't follow caste, yet still use their surnames and practise casteism using insults against jatts including on forums such as sikhsangat, yet it is the jatt people they solely blame for being casteist, but can't see their own casteism; but ALSO they have their own RAMGHARIA gurdwaras while saying they do not believe in caste! And to be on ramgharia gurdwara committee you have to be from tarkhan background, and nothing to do with ramgharia misl !!! Sooo. after all that and my experiences with them it is hard for me to respect most east african sikhs, and that includes the non tarkhan ones as I have come across some, including actually a few Kenya jatt families/sikhs I have come across as well.
  3. So hearsay is a punjabi word as well, who knew. there are so many words which have culturally crossed across the globe!
  4. yeh just saw he says sikhra near the end of the video, I don't think he meant it in any disrespectful way and was being really respectful. But it does alert to the normalised use of sikhra amongst pakistanis, obviously the hate must be strong if it is normal vocabulary. I am sure I have heard Guru ji use sikhra in gurbani as well though, so the origin may not be bad
  5. I heard from katha that kurri actually comes from the word koora, ie that it is a derogatory word for women. I wonder how much punjabi has changed with neo-gurmukhi introducing pehr bindi letters using z, p and sh
  6. we still use bataoo, and we still have a saying "bataoo kadi na khaoo, kareley do veley
  7. (7) Seventh Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: We Sahajdhari Sikhs, True Lord, trim our beards according to Mughal style when some of us have to attend Mughal courts, or attend to clerical duties in Mughal service. What shall we do now? Guru Gobind Singh Answered: You, who are Sahajdhari Sikhs should now keep a full beard, just as the Khalsa Sikhs keep, but if there is official compulsion, you may comply with the orders of your rulers. But when you go to the Sadh Sangat (Congregation of the Sikh Temple) and wish to participate in their activities, offer Ardasa (Invocational Prayer) seeking forgiveness for this transgression.
  8. I am in west london, I guess south east england as well
  9. Most gatka akharas are good at Morris Dancing, they just dress up in bana.
  10. more traffic, it's often congested. It has a crossrail station next to Park Avenue Singh Sabha gurdwara, so a person doesn't even need to live there, just catch a quick train from neighbouring areas such as West Drayton, Langley, Iver, Ealing Broadway or even Paddington! Still a waste-hole lol
  11. move to an area near slough or southall, or even between so you get access to many gurdwaras. Living in Southall isn't that nice.
  12. could have put down shaheedi degh here ? Could have had 2 or 3 wives. 10 wives is even more than enough for most puraatan Singhs, exceptions were Maharajas like Ranjit Singh. ?
  13. the problem is he was trying to get a short beard by using fixo, hairspray etc. it is the tying for a shorter beard culture which causes this complex. He got the result for a short beard in the end, just in the incorrect way. He could have left it open or just tidied it up a little, there is too much obsession for tied beard in some communities of sikhs such as east africa/ kenya sikhs, also seen in Afghan sikhs, and some urban indian sikhs.
  14. I actually seen Brazilian girls interested in marrying sikhs or Singhs, and I think have seen this happen in some cases. And genuine ones, not users.
  15. no idea about the traits, all I know is other pak punjabis think of mirpuris as rubbish/trash.
  16. sikh families used to have a lot more children at the first half of the last century, and before the last century, there were also polygamous marriages, probably not many like Raja Ranjit Singh though. Proper rehitee families should be having more children, but these families which are destroying sikhi values should have less children as possible. Actually maybe they are better off in the girlfriend boyfriend stuff like goray than getting married and grihast, make the money, get comfortable and then exercise time
  17. bumping after pandemic lockdowns, and term 2 is beginning in the uk for 2021/2022
  18. people usually post on sikh reddit asking where to get traditional sikh instruments, and there are knowledgeable people there.
  19. where's the announcement? no warning, no post-outage notice?
  20. I could not access sikhsangat on the weekend, was there an outage? I did not see any announcement made?
  21. I don't read Suraj Prakash, but I do listen to katha. So does it have to be reading, or can it be listening as well? I am also doing a really slow sehaj paat of Guru Granth Sahib on my mobile, sometimes I take long gaps before I commence.
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