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  1. Commitment to Nitnem

    Is it because it is too long? I mean I can't read Gurmukhi so what you could do is read the transliteration or if not, what I do is I listen to it while reading it. This way I get the pronunciation correct and it's more faster. Just have full dhiaan while doing this though.
  2. Question

    Unless he is a teenager (most likely) then he is most likely to get the urges.
  3. Question

    It's literally in the maryada, 'Fornication or adultery.' Adultery = intercourse with someone who is not in their spouse Fornication = sexual intercourse between people not married to each other (Both are the same meanings)
  4. Question

    The only bujjar kurehit related to this is adultery. Are you a teenager? To stop I'd suggest seeing Hopefully it helps you.
  5. How To increase Sikh population in UK

    If there is a lot of hate crime in the UK then I don't know how people will react if 2-3 turban wearers come at their door. Some people don't pick up the door to 'Jenovah Witnesses' most of the time.
  6. Royal visits Sikh temple

    You do know this post is from 2003? If you were just leaving your opinion then nevermind
  7. Dhadrianwale exposed

    How about the UK-based arm of him, 'Nirvair Khalsa Jatha', is there anything wrong with them or are we all blinded by them as well?
  8. dealing with narcissist

    Ok so what I am assuming is that you are stuck with some egotistic human being who just wants fame? Or more of a capitalist? That's just my two cent but w/e. I'd suggest to try confronting them. Tell them to leave you alone or you need some space? Is this person your wife or something? Is it someone who is close and you can't just 'tell them to go'?
  9. dealing with narcissist

    What is a narcissist?
  10. Links/Important Info on Taksali/Nihang/AKJ/Nanaksari

    That sort of makes sense and doesn't. For example, for a puratan samprada they wouldn't call it Jatha but they call the head of whatever it is the 'Jathedar'. http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Jathebandi
  11. I researched these posts and found some links if you want to know more about a Jatha. Part 2: Taksali Maryada: (Credits to @TaksalDaSingh9771) Main Taksal: Damdami Taksal 1.you live an honest life and follow Guru Granth Sahib ji. 2. Believe in dasam bani 3. Take santhiya from a taksali singh 4. Do nitnem 5. Keep taksali rehit to take Amrit if you haven't (me) 6. Believe that meat is last resort 7. Try to fight 5 chor everyday 8. Have a good heart 9. You're nitnem is: Japji Sahib, jaap sahib, tvae prasad swaye (sravag sudh) chaupai Sahib (hamri karo hath) anand Sahib 40 pauria {morning} sampooran rehras (taksali gutka) {evening} rakhiya de shabad and kirtan sohila {night} 10. Do ardas everyday for maharaj to give you rehit daan bibek daan etc. http://www.vidhia.com/Rehat Maryada/Gurmat_Rehat_Maryada_-_Damdami_Taksal.pdf http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/history/leaders http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/ http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/code-of-conduct/37-organization/56-q-a-a Nihang Maryada and links (credits to @Destruction) Main Nihang Dal: Buddha Dal http://www.shastervidiya.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Fighting-Traditions-And-Fighting-Arts-Of.pdf Transliteration - Gursikhan di Puratan Maryada - Buddha Dal gutka Satguran di Gurbani da furmaan - "Gur Satgur ka jo Sikh akaaey, su bhalkey utth Har Naam dheeaavey. Udham karey bhalkey parbhaati, ishnaan karey, Amrit Sar naavey" (Mahalla 4 Vaar Gauri panna 305-6) 1. Guru ka Sikh Amrit vele utthdey samey, Ardas karey sukhan naal raat gujri, Kriya sodhan da bal bakhsho 2. Utthke jangal (medaaney) jaan samey jal da garva le ke jana. Madaan khed ke garva changi tarha sodhna (maanjna) Shehran vich bhi Latrine vich pani hove, hath saban naal saaf karne. 3. Mukh Maanjana (Datan karni) jal kol rakhna. "Kangha dono vakht kar - Paagh chunh kar bandhai. Datan neet kareye, n dukh paaveh Laal ji." (rehtnama Bhai Nand Laal Singh ji.) 4. Ishnaan thandhey jal naal karna. Sareerak avastha vichaar lenni. 5. Kacchera badlann samey ik pahauncha laahaunna ik paaaunna. Nangey modhhe ja nangey sir kacchera nahi badlana. 6. Aasan te baitth ke dumalley (dastaar) sajaaunee, godhean te hazooreean pa laina, Dastar kaccherey nu na lagey. Dastaar pech pech kar ke uthaarni, topi vang nahi laahauni - chun ke fir sees te sajauni. 7. Amrit veley pehlaa 'Vaheguru' mantar da jaap saavdhaani naal shabad-surat jorh karna, swaasan naal. 8. Dargaahi hukam mutaabak; "fir charey divas Gurbaani gavey - bahdeeaa uthdeeaa Har Naam dheeaavey" (M 4 Vaar Gauri - Panna 304-6) 9. Saverey Amrit vele Gurmantar ante Moolmantar da jaap karke, Panj banian da saverey path karey ja suney. Behdeaan uthdean, Vaheguru jaap ja Mool mantar da jaap karde rehna. (Panj Baanian : Jap Sahib Jaap Sahib, Swaiye (sravag sudh), Chaupai, Anand Sahib (Sampooran). Hor baanian khushi aavey parho. Shami - Sodar Rehraas --Aarti Aarta parhe ja suney. Saaun samey kirtan sohila da path kar ardas kar bisraam karey.) Vaheguru mantar bina hor mantar da jaap na karey. "vaheguru ke mantar bin, Jaapey aaur koi jaap. So sakat, Sikh mool nah, baacat sri mukh aap.17. (rehatnama Bhai Prahlaad Singh ji) 10. Kesi Ishnaan - Bibeki Singh reetheaan ja sucham dahi jamaie naal kesi ishnaan karey. Khulla Singh - jis naal ji chaahe karey. 11. Kes harrey karan samey nangey na rakhey, chhota patka pala upar rakhkey harrey karey (sukhaave). Kacchera badlan samey bhi kesh nangey kachhera na badley. 12. Kes pichhey sutt ke harrey na karey, Baiey ja daaey(saja ja kkabbey) kes khuley rakhke upar kesgi neeli rakhke sukaavey. 13. Kanga karan samey jo kes jharan ouhna nu pairan vich na suttey, (eh Guru ki mohar han) Sambhaal ke agan bhet devo. 14. Gilla ja sukka kacchera modheaan te na rakhey, Kesan Dahrey nu lagda he (Kacchrea kamar kassey banney) 15. Dahrha khulla rakhey Rom na chhedey, Kalaf na lavey, na kaley karan lai koi aooshudi vartey, so tankhahiaa. 16. Baana (Akaal Fauj da) Neelaa pehney(Neelaa Dastaar Neelaa Chola) Kamarkasa (Dastaar hethan Neela patka kesan naal Kesgi jaroori pehne ate Shastar) Safed kacchera terh, (pajama nahi pehrna) Sardeean vich 'Half Stop' di varto lorh anusaar keeti ja sakdi 17. Dasan Guru Sahiban da saroop sri Guru Granth Sahib Guru Saroop maney - Dasm sri Guru Granth Sahib te Sri Sarb Loh Granth Shib - Guru Vaak ucharan man ke Guru Saroop hi isht upasana karni. 18. Tek Akaal Purakh di ate parcha Shabad (Gurbaani da) rakhna. 19. Panj Piaareyan ton Khande di pahul - amrit chhak ke, (Mard) naam naal 'Singh' ate bibian 'Kaur' shabad vartan. 20. Adha nam nahi sadna poora nam sadna. 21. Panj kakaar (Kes, Kangha,Kara, Kirpan, Kachhera) eh sareer de ang samjhaney, kis vakht (ishnan karan samey ja raat saun samey) koi kakaar sareer ton vakh nahi karney. 22. Kanga danda tutta nahi vartana - do kanghe rakho, ik hovey tan danda tutan te ardas karva saabat kanga vartna. 23. Dastaar Gurmukhi sajauni , Farrhey vala Singh , Dastaar saja ke 'Farrhey da shabad (jo is gutkey vich he) yaad kar parey. 24 Farrha (Guru Ka Nishaan jaan) adab satkaar da khaas dheean rakhey. 25. Guru darbar bina ishnaan hazoori na javey, Baharon namaskar kar lavey. Jad Guru Hazoor javey panj ishnaan karke javey adab sahit namaskaar karey. Juraab pa ke na javey. 26. Amritdhari Singh - Panj kakaar di rehat dharan karey, ate kurahit ton sada bachey. a. Singh Singhani kesan naal kesgi neeli jaroor rakhey. b. Kirpan isht jaan ke har samey pehn rakhni. c. Singh Dastar dhari hove (Topi manmat te kurahit he) "Hoi Sikh topi dharey, Saat janam kushtti hoe marey." d. Rozana ishnaan karna. e.Rozana hee, Vaheguru Mantar da jaap te savere te shaam deean banian samey zaroori parhneean. f. Dharam di kirt karke vand chhakna g. Guru namit dasvand denna h. Satsang karna - Seva karna. i. Har karaj Gurmat anusaar karna. Hor matan dee rees nahi karni j. har samey sri Guru Granth Sahib ji dee ageea hukama vich chalna. k. Sach bolna. Sat, Santokh, Dheeraj Shubh gun dhaaran karney. l. Ninda karn to parhej karna. 27. Kurehatan : a. Kesan di beadbee nahi karni, Koi rom bhi sareer ton nahi chhedna (katna) b. Tamaaku (dhumar paan) sevan nahi karna. c. Kutha khana (mussalmani kalaam naal koh ke maarna), sakht varjat he. d. Musli yudh (Bhaav Par Naari da sanbhog nahi karna) , Sakht varjat he. e. Meeney-Masand-Dhirmaliye, RaamRaiey, Nari Maar Kuri maar - Sir Gumey te patit naal varton nahi karni. f. Chori-Yaari-Jooaa nakhid karam nahi karney. g. nashean ton jithon tak ho sakey bachan da yatan karna. Inna de Sundar sareer nu vasi karan nahi karna. h. Devi - Devtey - Moorti pooja (Photo pooja) Marhi - Masaani - Math - pooja, Shagan - apshagan, Tirath-Bart rakhney , Sootak - Patak, CChho - CChaat, Sraadh karney , Chhaiaa, puchheaa, Jantar-Mantar-Tantar aadh bharam karan to sada nirlep rehna, eh nahi mananney. 28. Akaal Fauj, sada shastar-dhari tyaar bar tyaar ravey. 29. Har karaj Ardas karey Satguru agay. Uthdean behanddean ishnaan karan - Naam japan - Parshad chhakan pehlan te chhakan uprant shukrana Vaheguru Akaal Purakh ji da karey. 30. Cheetah bhajae (peshaab karan te) Panj Ishnan karey. 31. Gurbani, kisey saroop vich hovey (Gutka ja pothi) swacch rumaal vich rakhey, ate kisey uchi jagha rakey, satkaar te adab rakhey. 32. Sikh Sikh te vaar na karey - gareeb di rakheea karey. 33. Dhi - Bhenan da paisa na vatte na khaey. 34. Shastar na visaarey jeha hukum he : a. 'Tanddey pani jo nahi naavey. Bin Japu parhey ju paavey.Bin Rehraas-Sandean jo khoveh. Keertan parhe bin rain ju soveh..15. Karey bachan jo paalaeh nahi. Gobind Singh tis ttaur kat nahi. b. Sikh hoe bin loh (shastar) jo firreh. Aavat jaavat janamey marey..12. (rehatnama) c. Nagan hoe baahar firhe, nagan sees jo khaae. Nagan parsad jo baitaiee, tankhahee baddo kahaee..24. d. Paag utaar parsad jo khaavey, so Sikh kumbhee narak sidhaavey. e. Bin Jap Jaap japey, jo jevah prasad. So bistta ka kiram huei, janam gavaavey baad..13.. (rehatnama Bh. Prehlaad Singh ji.) 35. Be Amriteeay naal ral ke nahi cchhakna. 36. Jithon tak ho sake sucham rakhnee (such hove t sach paaeeay) GuruVaak ja kee rehat na jaaneeay, Gur mantar nahi cheet. Ta Ka bhojan khaeeay Tootey Har Sion preet. 37. Gurmukhi akhar sikhney parhney - Gurbaani kanth karni, Gur Itihaas parna sunanna, Bacheaan nu Sikhi rehat val prer-rat karna. 38. Sri Guru Granth |Sahib ji dee hazoori suchet ho baithna, Maleen Hava nahi teeaagnee, je bevasi hovey bahar uth jana. Paath karan vala Singh hazooreeaan zaroor rakhe, Paath karde samey sareerak ang nu hath la ke koi kriya nahi karni - Hazooreeay naal karni, ajehe hath Guru Bani nu lagan te beadbi he. Naaska di mal bhi hazooreeay ja jal naal saaf karni. 39. Mool Gursikhi da sva -Bhaou, Bhagti-Simran, Jap-tap Sabar Santokh, Dharam Karam he. 40. Bihangham Singh kisse agay hath fella ke kujh mangey nahi. Sabar Santokh Guru Bharosey jo devey so khai te dirrh vishvaash rakhe. 41. Koi ajehe karam na kare jis naal Akaal Fauj de Baney te Bani di beadbi niraadar hunda hovey. 42. Singh Singh nu milan samey Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki Fateh bulaavey. Eh hukum Singh Singhni doha lai he. 43. Janam to maran tak saarey Sanskaar Gurmat naal karney. 44. Shromani Panth Akaali Buddha Dal valon manaey jaan vale purb (mahallean) te zaroor pahaunch ke hazareean bharneean, ate daswandh haazar karke Guru keean khushian praapat karneean. Shromani Panth Akaali Buddha Dal de mahalley ; a. Vaisakhi - sri Damdama Sahib , Guru ki Kanshi, Talvandi Sabo ki (Bhatinda) b. Hola Mahalla - sri Anandpur Sahib c. Vaddey Sahibzaadeyan ji di shahaadat - 8 Poh, sri Chamkaur sahib. d. cchhotey Sahibzaadeyan ji di te Mata Gujri ji di shahaadat 13 Poh , sri Fatehgarh sahib (Sirhind) e. Katak Sudi Pooranmashi (Avtaar Dihaara Patshaahi 1) Sultanpur Lodhi (Kapurthala) f. Maghi - Sri Mukhtsar g. Basant Panchmi - Patiala - Chhauni Nihang Singhan, Buddha Dal, Lower Mall Rd. 45. Kann-Nak cchedney (Singh Singhni lai vajat he - ( Saabat Soorat rehna) Ang bhang nahi karney. Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki Fateh ! Khalsa Rehitnama (Buddha Dal gutka page 359) Ek Onkaar sri Vaheguru ji Ki Fateh. Sri Mukh Vaak Patshaahi 10 Tab im bhaniyo gareeb nivaaj. Shastran ke adheen he raaj. Dhunn sang saarey Prabhu ji sunaai. Bina Tegh Teerang rahe nahe bhai. Bina shatran Kesang, nar bhed jano. Gahe kaan taako, kitey le sidhano. Ehey mor agia sun leh piaarey. Bina Tegh Kesang n divo deedaarey. (Gurbilaas Bhai Sumer Singh Ji) Yaatey Sarab Khalsa Suniaeh. Aayudh dhabey utham guniaeh. Jab hamre darsan ko aavoh. Ban suchet tan Shastar sajavoh. (Gurpratap Suraj rut 3 adhiaaie 23) (rehatnamean vich vee shastardhari hon bare baar baar taageed keeti he ) Kachh Kirpan Kabhu n teeaagey. Sanmukh larey n ran te bhaagey. Shastr Heen n kabhu hoee. Rehat vant Khalsa he soee. (rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh ji) Khalsa so jo chaeh turang. Khalsa so jo kareh nitt jang. Khalsa so jo shastr ko dharey. Khalsa so jo dusht kao maarey. agay safah Bhai Nand Lal Ji da. Safa ke faryand ko eion he laazma. Aapan ko beeh bisve kar rakhna. agar tuyang pari chu baashad tisey uthha kar palak n dikhna. Langot, Kachha, Kass kar baras nagey karna. Aapan ko bakhtrr turang ko paakhar surang ke mukh par bana kar kasna. annee banney to kami n karna. Hoe haror aagay hoe larna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9_SGzCY28 http://www.sikhanswers.com/sikh-history-personalities/who-are-nihang-singhs/ Akhand Kirtani Jatha (AKJ) https://akj.org/ AKJ differs from mainstream Sikhism in their interpretation of one of The Five Ks of Sikhism: instead of accepting the kes or "uncut hair", they interpret the command as referring to keski, a small turban, which they maintain must be worn by Sikhs of either sex. Kes is given a higher requirement. They are against any forms of meat, including Jhatka. This is a topic on gurmatbibek.com which is very much an AKJ forum. http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,1963 As mentioned in the name of the Jatha, they elaborate more on their Kirtan. Here are a few examples of their kirtan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0Y4Aav_KE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rt6E4OyRl0 (I am going to keep AKJ short because their maryada and facts are really not hard to find) https://vidhia.com/Bhai Randheer Singh Ji/Autobiography-Bhai-Sahib-Randhir-Singh-Ji.pdf https://vidhia.com/Bhai Randheer Singh Ji/ Please use these links they tell you a lot of what Bhai Randhir Singh said. Nanaksar Kaleran "Nanaksar, near jagraon in Punjab is center founded by Sant Baba Nand Singh Jee, followed by Sant Baba Ishar Singh. Thereafter, they split into many branches each headed by some one claiming to be spiritual descendent of Sant Ishar Singh. Their Gurudwaras are spread all over Punjab and are found in Delhi and overeseas as well. They are distinguished by a large potrait of Guru Nanak Dev jee, which they claim is rendered by an artist on the basis of 'darshan'(vision) Sant Ishar Singh Jee had of the Guru Saheb. They wear white and all the drapings in their Gurudwaras are white. They do not accept money as an offering. However, Kadah Prasad, fabric for clothes/ dresses and other groceeries/ fruits are accepted as offering. They encourage people to bring cooked langar from their homes. Their mool mantar goes on till 'jap' following 'guruprasad'. They are normally very strong in keertan and sing very passionately and have a large number of young men who have dedicated their lives to the movement and take vow of celebacy and do not have families." From my personal experience of Nanaksar, the langar is bought from home, they believe the nanaksar gurdwara is the garden of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. http://www.philtar.ac.uk/encyclopedia/sikhism/nanak.html http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/5157-nanaksar-the-true-purpose-and-some-amazing-facts/ nanaksar rehraas sahib: https://www.scribd.com/doc/56094501/Nanaksar-Rehraas Nanaksar Aarti: http://www.scribd.com/doc/56096973/Nanaksar-Aarti All Bani's: http://nanaksarkaleran.net/otherinfo/banidownload.html Maryada (Gurmukhi): http://nanaksarkaleran.net/maryada.html Maryada English: The frequent visits of Sant Mihan Singh and Sant Amar Singh of Nanaksar (-"the Sacred Pool of Nanak") tradition resulted in the establishment of their centers, particularly in Richmond B.C. and Toronto.28 They were also responsible for conducting amrit-ceremonies in the early seventies according to their own Nanaksar Maryada, which significantly differs from the standard manual. For instance, the Panj Piare prepare amrit separately in a different room in an esoteric manner and do not allow the novices to watch the ceremony as participants. When amrit is ready, however, they invite them for initiation. They recite the complete Anand Sahib (forty stanzas), a longer version of the Benati Chaupai and complete Mulmantar (from ihk oankar to nanah hosi bhi sochu) during the amrit-ceremony. The Nanaksar tradition originated with Sant Nand Singh Kaleranwale (1871/72-1943), who enjoyed high spiritual reputation for his piety and asceticism.29 He was succeeded by Sant Ishar Singh (1916?-63)30, who built an imposing gurdwara called Nanaksar at Kaleran village, near a small town of Jagraon in Ludhiana district. He is credited with having initiated about 750,000 Sikhs with the baptism of the double-edged-sword (khande da amrii) during a brief period of his ministry between 1950 and 1963.3' When he died in 1963, he was succeeded by three contenders who set up separate seats in Nanaksar. Each of them has built up a considerable following and influence among the rural people from the neighbouring districts of Ludhiana, Ferozepur and Faridkot. Several of their followers have settled in North America and Britain during die last two decades. They follow their own Nanaksar Maryada, which includes the celebration of puranamashi (the night of full moon), the recitation of arti ("adoration") at each concluding ceremony and the devotional singing of hymns (keirtan) while Akhand Path ("unbroken reading" of the Sikh scriptures) is going on. They do not mount the Nishan Sahib (or "Sikh Flag") at their gurdwaras.32 All other Jathabandi's Other jathabandi's are basically just a group of sikhs. For example, dhadi jatha. They don't have a whole new jatha with a maryada do they? Jatha simply means a group/parade. And a jatha inside a jatha, for example a kirtani group that are akhand kirtani's, they are a smaller jatha that don't believe in anything different, just a little group. Joining a Puratan Samprada / Jatha I am no expert on these type of stuff but here are my 20 cents: To join a Samprada of any sort, you need to follow their rehit top to bottom. You are still a Sikh just different beliefs. Now to actually be in the Jatha fully, you need to take amrit from that specified Jatha. Let's say you wanted to become a Nihang, you will need to ask the current Jathedar (they have lots of headquarters) and ask him questions. Same with taksali most likely. Otherwise you can just take amrit from that Jatha and follow what they say. Remember one thing though, you are to be following your Guru, don't be a sheep and follow the Jatha just for the sake of it. Now AKJ is fairly easy too, just follow the maryada and the amrit from them.
  12. That's in a separate thread, I split up the 4 jathe/samprade
  13. Credits to @Jacfsing2 for pointing these Puratan Samprada's out for me. Khalsa "Khalsa (Punjabi: "the pure") refers to both a special group of initiated Sikh warriors, as well as the community that considers Sikhism as its faith. The Khalsa tradition was initiated in 1699 by the last living Guru of Sikhism, Guru Gobind Singh. Its formation was a key event in the history of Sikhism. The founding of Khalsa is celebrated by Sikhs during the festival of Vaisakhi, the Sikh new year. Guru Gobind Singh started the Khalsa tradition after his father had been beheaded for resisting the religious persecution of non-Muslims during the rule the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb. The Khalsa redefined the Sikh tradition from the start. It formulated an initiation ceremony (amrit pahul, nectar ceremony) and rules of conduct for the Khalsa warriors. It created a new institution for the temporal leadership of the Sikhs, replacing the masands system maintained by the earlier Gurus of Sikhism. Additionally, the Khalsa provided a political and religious vision for the Sikh community. Upon initiation, a Khalsa Sikh was given the titles of Singh (male) and Kaur (female). The rules of life, included behavioral code (Rahit, such as no tobacco, no alcohol, no halal meat), and a dress code (Five Ks).The initiated Khalsa is also a warrior with a duty to protect the innocent from any form of religious persecution. The Sikhs who revere the teachings of Sikh gurus, but have not undergone the initiation have been called Sahajdhari. A Sahajdhari Sikhs do not accept some or all elements of the dress and behavioral codes of the Khalsa Sikhs. The Khalsa has been predominantly a male institution in Sikh history, with Khalsa authority in male leaders. In contemporary era, it has become more open to women." 5ks: Kesh Kanga Kirpan Kachera Kara Bujjar Kuherits: Not to disturb the natural growth of the hairs. Not to eat meat of any animal slaughtered. (Some may argue Jhakta is allowed which is instantaneous strike to the head) Cohabiting with a person other than one's spouse. Using tobacco or alcohol. - Anyone who breaks these 4 sins has broken the Amrit and the boost of naam their panj gave them, and will need to retake amrit to become a Khalsa again. http://new.sgpc.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Raj-Karega-Khalsa.pdf http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://old.sgpc.net/CDN/Sikh_Rehat_Maryada_English.pdf&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=puO8WZ63GsKbgAb3h7XwBQ Udasi (Sect of Baba Sri Chand) * Udasis wear clothes of ochre colour – Sikhs do not. * Udasis may or may not have long hair – Sikhs are enjoined to. Cutting the hair is an act of apostasy. * Udasis are not enjoined to keep the five kakkaars – Sikhs are. * Udasis need not be initiated in the ceremony of Pahul – Sikhs must. * Caps are the peculiar badges of Udasis – Sikhs are prohibited from wearing them. * Udasis observe Hindu rites and ceremonies – Sikhs do not. * The chief object of worship of Udasis is the ball of ashes – this is condemned by the Sikhs. Udasis adore samadhs – Sikhs do not. * Udasis may smoke – Sikhs may not. Smoking is an act of apostasy. * Udasis employ Brahmins – Sikhs are not allowed to. * Udasis perform shraadh (ancestral rites of offering food to the dead) – Sikhs do not. * Udasis observe the caste system – Sikhs do not. http://www.sikhanswers.com/sikh-history-personalities/what-do-you-know-of-udaasis/ Udasi is a religious sect of ascetic sadhus based on the teachings of Sri Chand (1494–1643), the son of Guru Nanak, the founder and the first Guru of Sikhism. The Udasis do not reject the Sikh Gurus, but attach greater importance to the line of succession from Guru Nanak through Sri Chand to the Udasi mahants. They interpret the message of Guru Granth Sahib in Vedantic terms. They do not abide by the Khalsa's Rehat Maryada. "The Udasis were key interpreters of the Sikh philosophy and the custodians of important Sikh shrines until the Akali movement. They brought a large number of people in the Sikh fold during the 18th and the early 19th centuries. However, their religious practicies border on a syncretism of Sikhism and Hinduism. When the Singh Sabha, dominated by Khalsa Sikhs, redefined the Sikh identity in the early 20th century, the Udasi mahants were expelled from the Sikh shrines. Since then, the Udasis have increasingly regarded themselves as Hindus rather than Sikhs." Nirmala Credits to @Mahakaal96 When Dasam patshah sent 5 Singhs to Benares to learn sanskriti etc they were denied access to the ashrams in Benares because of the maryada of those ashrams not allowing weapons etc. The Singhs returned to mahraj & told them what had happened & mahraj then gave them hukam to remove their shaster & gave them peach coloured bana to wear & sent them back to Benares to learn all the vidya then come back & teach all the other Singhs.... this was the birth of the Nirmala Samparda. Some Nimalas even today wear peach coloured robes & do not carry weapons... they are strictly scholars/sants. http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Nirmala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirmala_(sect) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utq09DW6yWo Sevapanthi http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Sewapanthi "Guru Gobind Singh Sahib, when he envisioned a Sikh nation, he envisioned the entire world as his realm, and not just a particular geographical area. Similarly, the All-Knowing Guru, in keeping with the traditional ways of the preceeding Gurus, knowing the core philosophies of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, envisioned an all-inclusive Sikh nation, rejecting the exclusive norms of other faiths. Understanding the ways of the Creator, he allowed some diversity and some distinguished ways within it, and personally and specifically blessed Nirmalas and Seva-Panthis. Earlier, Guru Ram Das Sahib honored and acknowledged Baba Sri Chand, founder of the Udaasi Samprada, as per Guru Nanak Dev Ji's blessing to Mata Sulakhni, for her sons. Again, Guru Hargobind Sahib, offered his eldest son Baba Gurditta and the father of Guru Har RaiSahib, as successor to Baba Sri Chand. These distinguished ways or paths are termed ‘sampardaya’ or 'samprada'. This term has, in the past, been wrongly mis-interpreted or conveyed to the public as ‘sects’ or a ‘cults’, terms that incorrectly imply deviation, arising from dissent with practised beliefs. The term samparda does not mean ‘sect’, but rather order, as in an order of monks. In this sense a sampardaya represents one among several mutually complementary orders. Each one of the major four traditional sampardas began with our Gurus blessings. There are five, traditional sampardas however, starting with the Nirmalas (spiritual scholars), Udasis (scholar mystics), Nihangs (warriors) and Sevapanthis (spiritual mystics serving humanity) and the lesser known Suthra Shahis started by Suthra Shah who was named and raised by Guru Hargobind Sahib. Sampradaya can be interpreted as ‘tradition’ or a ‘religious order’. It signifies a spiritual or a monastic progression serving as a spiritual conduit via an organisation that lends perpetuity of religious identity. It is somewhat in contrast to other Indian Guru Lineages called paramparas, where by receiving an initiation into a parampara of a living guru, one belongs to a sampradaya. The sampradaya is — a succession of spiritual mentors who carry forward and further convey a religious order of holy men. Holy men belonging to particular sampradas follow their traditional way, holding on to their order's unique philosophies, as conveyed by their mentors to their successors, hence perpetuating their identity. Each successor, however, exercising discretion, does keep the organisation further evolving, while staying with the panthic norms and their tradtional ways. Sevapanthi samprada comprises of holy men who are devoted to selfless service. The name Sevapanthi can be divided into two parts 'Seva' and 'Panthi'. Seva being selfless service and Panthi meaning someone who walks the path. Hence connoting someone who walks the path of selfless service." - http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Sewa_Panthi_Sampradaye
  14. An amritdhari teacher in my school told me that there is an amrit sanchar every month on a Sunday on some occasion which began with S but I forgot (at soho road Gurdwara) Does anyone know more details on this?
  15. Birmingham, Soho Road Gurdwara Amrit Sanchar?

    Nevermind I found it! `There is an Amrit Sanchaar every month on the 1st Sunday after Sangrand @ Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha Birmingham (Soho Road Gurdwara). For People who need it, the gurdwara will provide the Panj Kakkars` Those who are looking to take amrit in this area, amrit shaklo! I definitely will and I say this confidentally! @simran345Thanks ji for the help which got me researching further.
  16. Birmingham, Soho Road Gurdwara Amrit Sanchar?

    "There is usually one at soho road gurdwara every Sunday after sangrand." I need more details though, is it every Sunday a sangrand happens and after the event is finished or when a sangrand ends the sunday after it?
  17. Birmingham, Soho Road Gurdwara Amrit Sanchar?

    Ye that's the one :D
  18. Kharku Thread

    Sorry for asking but what is a 'Kharku' and what is the difference between them and shaheeda?
  19. Links/Important Info on Taksali/Nihang/AKJ/Nanaksari

    Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding.
  20. Sikh girl converted - live

    It seems all setup to me, the way she answers the questions like she knew it was coming.
  21. Help Exam!

    Doesn't work that way kiddo Do ardaas, possibly Jaapji sahib. Anything you can do to be on the safe side But always make sure to study.
  22. Sewapanthi has been added, adding more info to it if I find anything else.
  23. Aarti-Aarta transliteration

    Thank you so much for that! Much appreciated.
  24. Aarti-Aarta transliteration

    WJKK WJKF Has anyone got a romanized version of the Aarti-Aarta from Dasam Granth? I can't seem to find anything online :| WJKK WJKF
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