14 minutes ago, Deepthinking22 said:

The only one confusing here is you bro.  Most people are baffled by your posts.  I admitted my mistake in who I quoted but for anyone who is not going to get emotionally triggered by it, my points still hold true.  

You only speak for yourself. You DO NOT speak for others. Learn to respect your elders. If you really must insist on understanding my posts, you will have to get inside my head!

11 minutes ago, Deepthinking22 said:

Sounds like you jumped off your own boat a long time ago bro, from this post and many if not all of your others

Don’t you dare insult my Nani. She was a better Sikh than you could ever be. She spoke more sense than you ever would and she was not your average everyday Sikh, she was a devout gursikh lady, if you know what that means!

On 4/20/2022 at 3:07 PM, Deepthinking22 said:

 

Listen. I like many others here (I'm sure) want to see the Black community throughout the world prosper (Sikhi would be great for them). But not at the expense of others and also, they cannot do this without confronting and fixing their flaws.  

And what about your own community?  Why are you do keen on seeing them *f prosper what about the brown Sikh community? You have got some very deep rooted inferiority complex within your subconscious mind, it is so deeply rooted that you are ashamed of identifying yourself with your BROWN SIKH kaum. Grow up and smell the coffee and see we what’s happening your very own kaum  first, before commiserating with those that have NOTHING in common with us in terms of our wonderful Sikh religion, our history, our culture and our people. Besharm badmash! 

I think, Sikhi WOULD be GREAT for you too if only you’d care to apply to your thick head! Apply it to yourself first and then apply it to others. Practice before you preach. I bet, you are NOT even an Anritdharri Sikh yet. Confused characters like you never are.

@Deepthinking22 and @singhpunjabsingh You’re both confused.

8 minutes ago, kangw said:

My Nani taught us not to go to anyone for support. Support your own and they will support you in return. She said not to beg others to highlight your problems do it yourself. My Nani was a very devout Sikh and believed if we don’t marry our own brown Sikhs, Sikhi will not grow. It’s a brown Sikh people’s struggle and not anyone else’s to fight racism, so no point posting converts over here. Grotesque, frightfully grotesque strategy in my view.

We brown Sikhs have different history, different life experiences, different needs, different religion and we can’t expect others to fight our battles who have nothing in common with us. Others cannot be our role models, we have to find them in our own kaum.  No point in posting images to promote grotesque ideas. Stick to your own.

My Nani taught us not to go to anyone for support. Support your own and they will support you in return. She said not to beg others to highlight your problems do it yourself. My Nani was a very devout Sikh and believed if we don’t marry our own brown Sikhs, Sikhi will not grow. It’s a brown Sikh people’s struggle and not anyone else’s to fight racism, so no point posting converts over here. Grotesque, frightfully grotesque strategy in my view.

36 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Wheeling out 'Uncle Thomas' is like some white wheeling out Rami Rangher as proof of serious problems with Sikh extremism. It's manipulation. He's bull5hit. You don't do any Sikh argument any favours by wheeling people like that out - if anything it just enforces the perception of white boot licking sepoy Sikhs, who've readily jumped on a white man token's words.  

Frame our own discourse, don't lazily jump on another people's ready made insidious agenda. 

This is exactly what I have been waiting to hear from you. Good work, keep it up! Don’t let the two i*i*** for the likes  of @singhpunjabisingh and @Deepthinking22 brainwash you with their confused identity crisis. It seems Deepthinking22 came across his ‘uncle Thomas’ when he jumped off the boat. My Nani always taught us to have our own story tailored to who we are and what we need, not copy others because we have different needs, we are culturally different and also there is no other religion on this earth to match ours. We as brown Sikhs are unique with unique needs and we must let the world know this, we exist. We are not going anywhere and the sooner you see it the better it would be for you all!

17 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Fair point. 

In any case I stand by my last post.

 

We need to start projecting ourselves differently. A lot of socio-political things are in a flux right now globally. We have to face that reality and what it means for us and adapt accordingly. 

Plus we've had this debate before, and we did get hordes piling in the stereotypes about blacks, which doesn't really help with dealing with the matter in my opinion. If anything it just petrifies loads of giddarhs to see kalay as some out of control, savage, unconquerable beasts - which just feeds into that whole 'docile' stereotype on our part. 

Stop being such a hypocrite and holier than though here! If you don’t feel comfortable under your skin like the rest of those you represent, it’s not difficult to notice. Most of your issues arise from there and you are not able to recognise it. In fact, after reading your posts one cannot fail but realise that you are so uncomfortable with yourself in terms of who you are. So please stop preaching, stop it.

20 hours ago, Jassu said:

Blacks look down on nerdy blacks. I had a black girl friend who was into anime and nerdy things and talked more posh and she said the other black girls looked down on her and wouldn't include her into their group. Blacks PRIORITISE criminal/ghetto behaviour. 

And how do they look upon those look alikes, so called, empty <banned word filter activated>-pots claiming to be Sikhs, imitating hand, finger, facial, hip and legs movements of the group and the very ones your friend comes from? Besides why are you and your lot struggling so hard to be like them? What’re your reasons to be accepted by them, have you not got a superior heritage or what? Do you not originate from where early civilisations of Harrapa and Mohenjidorro took place? What about the message of Guru Nanak which is far ahead and so superior than what emerged from Abraham’s trap?

22 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

No. take some responsibility. Juts have f**ked the whole structure of the panth by promoting their own culture like it was their dharam. You know it well. That faggy stuff in bright clothes. Brainless songs and movies. Acting all Maula-jut towards other apnay, but acting like a billhi in front of others. There's a big list, it could go on. 

The whole kom has become a fucked up kom minus few. Fucked up people form it and there is no doubt about it.  

On 4/18/2022 at 7:29 AM, SinghPunjabSingh said:

1. Not at all. If anyone attacks a bazurg that violent criminal ought to be severely punished.

2. None whatsoever. Sikhi teaches us to be tyaar bar tyaar and look out for the weak and oppressed and bazurgs.

A. The 50million African American population do not hate us and we need to foster greater links with them.

B. Supporting Reparations which equalise academic, health and legal outcomes for African Americans is something which I passionately believe we as Sikhs should automatically support and furthermore as they are the most oppressed community in the USA (along with native Americans). Just like how we should focus a lot of energy on supporting 250million Dalits outside Punjab and morally support indigenous Canadians in Canada or the Aboriginal community in Australia or those that were oppressed by Apartheid in South Africa or Tibetans in China, these are things fundamental to who we are as Diaspora Sikhs that pray daily for Sarbat da Bhala.

3. I don't make excuses for any violent criminals. I believe they need strong punishment for these two such despicable attacks. What I am saying is that there is no massive racist conspiracy or mindset against Sikhs by the 50million strong African American community. I am saying we need to redouble our efforts at outreach and parchaar to the community so that they all know what Sikhi is and who Sikhs are.

4. I can pull the statistics and show to you that indeed a majority of the incarcerated violent criminals from an African American background do indeed have drug addiction issues. The average middle class African Americans (the majority) in the main simply do not hate Sikhs. They are as horrified by these attacks as we are and from the State Senator down many have roundly condemned what happened despite these attacks being no big deal against the backdrop of black on black violence encouraged by the bigger real issue of White Supremacy in America. And the same can be said of low income but hard-working non-addicted African Americans too that work alongside Sikhs. They are very good people.

5. I believe these two thugs were crackheads who attacked but let's say you are right that the two attackers were actual genuine anti-Sikh black racists that genuinely espouse the racial inferiority of the Punjabi Sikhs. It doesn't follow that a majority of African Americans are racist against Sikhs. There is no major widespread phenomenon of anti-Sikh racism by 50million African Americans. Albeit that there may be a small crackhead minority which are involved in such random attacks or indeed crime against business owners.

(Similarly if two thirds of the one thousand paid Congress thugs in November 1984 were from a Hindu background {= 1 in a million Hindu's around at the time} it does not negate the fact that there are 1,000 million poor Hindu's who could be highly receptive to Sikhi if we do some parchaar to them and actually deliver an improvement to their lives instead of some of us going on about evil Hindu's that hate us as if they represent 1.1 Billion Hindu's).

Who are these faces in turbans and why are they wearing Sikh other Sikh emblems and who told them they could do it? Leopards never change their spots. Do they stand up and fight for your Sikh issues or anything? Do the white turbaned ones do this ever either? They look down on you and your lot because of your brown skins, as inferiors. Stop f******n* bragging about your plight and attacks on the f*****g vazoorgs! The vazoorgs are to blame for not teaching their children about what racism did to them when they were ruled by others in their own country. Their children or descendants have no knowledge of racist rule or racism because it was never talked about and because it was easier to brush it under the carpet than to challenge it. 
 

STOP F****n* playing God and preaching SARBAT DA BALLE here, you are NOT GOD. Do SDB for your own SIKH only people first and then the rest of the SARBAT ........ will follow by itself! You are nothing but a <banned word filter activated> morons and thats all who you are. Do the Harbajan shite yogi converts stand shoulder to shoulder with other Brown Sikhs to highlight their issues ever? Do they ever come forward to express any grievances affecting their Sikh counterparts living in western countries? GO AND PREACH THEM <banned word filter activated> SARBAT DA BHALLA FIRST.

They should remain in safe hands, India and her evil corrupt people are not the best people to preserve them as they have no respect for them. They are  corrupt to their little toe nails therefore not very safe. Poor people living hand to mouth have no respect there either only the rich do no matter how anyone tries to help them through charities. 

Red turbans look awful, full stop.  Sikhs look clownish in bright color turbans. They should only wear blue, bright orange and white ones to look spiritual  

https://www.opindia.com/2020/12/farmer-protest-sikh-priest-sant-baba-ram-singh-suicide-nurse-alleges-murder-details/amp/

‘He was killed’: Why nurse, who served at Sant Baba Ram Singh’s dispensary, is questioning ‘suicide’ angle after he ‘shot himself’ at farmer protest

• OpIndia Staff | 17 December, 2020

 

 

Disfigured Ek Omkar

Suicide note of Sant Ram Singh (Image:Aaj Samaaj)

Another point that was raised during the conversation was the disfigured Ek Omkar on the top of the suicide note. Both anchor and Amarjit said that it looks suspicious and different from the handwriting of the suicide note.

 

 

 

Unable to bear 'farmers' plight', Sikh cleric shoots himself dead | Delhi News - Times of India

https://www.timesnownews.com/

22 hours ago, PranaamShaheedaNu said:

VJKK VJKF

I am currently undertaking Santhiya and my ustaad has set some khoj to find out what ਸਦਰਸ means.

 

I have searched Mahan Kosh and cannot find anything, can anyone shed any light? I’d be most thankful!

 

Fateh

Break it down to two words. Sud is (pronounced like mud; with soft sounding  ‘d’) s+the = forever 

ras = ananda. Hence, sadras means,  Ananda that can be enjoyed forever. Hope this helps.
 

Bull Chukh muaff 

On 8/31/2020 at 7:12 PM, puzzled said:

 

On 8/31/2020 at 7:14 PM, puzzled said:

 

It is so true.