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Good idea!! I am on my way to the Gurdwara!!

The whole of the Guru Grant Sahib Ji, the Dasam Granth Baniyaan are my my favorite!! All the Kirtanyas and the Ragis are my favorites! I love listening to them all!!

It is all to do with how weak is the recipient's mind. If it is weak because it is not doing the Paath and Nam Jap then definitely the evil powers will overpower them!

Simran345 Penji, what I am trying to say is as follows:- Guru Ji started two Langars (1) Spiritual and (2) Temporal. Gurbani is the Spiritual Langar and daals and phulkeys are the temporal Langar. My question was, why are sikhs only interested in the temporal Langar and disregard the Spiritual one? Some sikhs say that sabat surat concept has no place in the modern western countries in which they live. They also question the necessity of kesh and kirpan or panj Baniay and Amrit sanchar? They do so much kintu prantus when it comes to the Guru's teachings, why? Yet, give them a plateful of black daal with aaloo gobi sabzi and boondi walla dayee with few phulkas, they will happily devour it, no questions asked!! But when it comes to embracing the tenets of sikhi, they run a mile as quickly as their two little legs can handle it!! Their excuse, the tenets belong to some ancient and not modern/western times! One of the tenets of sikhism is riddance of the caste system. This system truly belongs to ancient times but our sikh people are not prepared to let go of it, why? If the parents of those children that make fun at sabat surat sikhs had taught them what sikhi is all about, they would have grown up as accepting and educated adults. Beating up another child or children just because they are following the Guru's teachings shows the bullies are coming from families where no one has ever taken the time to sit down with them and explain and teach them about sikhi at home. So, in my view parents have to teach their children to love and respect others and not attack them in the school playgrounds plus what sikhi is all about! Thank you for listening, Penji!

Sikhism does not demand forced conversions, that is true. I rather have a disciplined mind any day, than freedom which leads me to be disrespectful to my faith. What good is one's 'freedom' when the mind is not trained to use it sensibly? Our minds cannot be trained to be disciplined without Guru ji's help and guidance. An undisciplined mind is what makes people behave like animals, that's is why we need Guru ji's guidance to learn how to refine and perfect our minds, so that we can utilize our freedom to make refined and perfect choices. It is Guru ji's Bani that helps us to chisel our minds. Guru ji intended for a sikh to marry a sikh in order spread sikhism. If sikhs had followed this hukam every sikh would have ended up with a disciplined and perfected mind!! There are so many sikhs married to westerners and their children have either become atheists or converted to muslim religion, because no one took the time to teach them their father's religion. Some of them are also either divorced or separated or alcoholics!! Being modern does not mean a person should forget their religious/spiritual identity. If that was the case then why would majority of sikhs born in modern western countries still have sikh first names? Those names have their origination in the sikh religion itself, don't they? Why don't they consider them to be obsolete or outdated and not suitable for modern times? Why do they still eat the panjabi food in modern western countries then? Obviously, saag and makki di rotti, aaloo walley parontheys, cholley with puryiaan, aallo barryaan and black, brown and yellow daals don't belong to the modern western countries, why do they still eat them? If they can enjoy their typical panjabi diet in modern western countries, what is stopping them enjoying their faith which is so precious, more precious than food? Why do they still believe in the ugly, odious caste system in the modern western countries? Do they for fraction of a second believe this belongs or should belong to the modern western countries in which they are living?

I think, in both the above cases, someone with black magic powers is doing this to them. There are people that know how to do this kind of thing in this evil owlrd of ours.

This needs to be taught when they are children. I have also heard many sikh girls make fun of sikh boys that are sabat surat. How can they do such a think if they come from sikh family background? You would think, the parents would have taken the time to educate them about sabat surat concept? Once anyone marries anymore outside of their faith the chances of teaching their children about parental faith becomes that much more difficult. When their children wanna marry to to someone who is neither from the mother's faith or the father's faith how are they going to stop them? Their children will turn around and say that they married into different faiths themselves so who are they to object to them getting married to someone from a third different faith altogether? This is the reason a sikh was meant to marry a sikh so this religion could progress and multiply with future generations. A sikh mother is more likely to teach sikh dharam to her children if she knows why Guru ji wanted a skih to marry a sikh. Sikhism does not believe in converting others. If every sikh did what Guru ji intended for them to do we would not be having so many problems. It is only normal and natural that anyone coming from sikh background wishing and hoping to marry a sikh, so why do we not see this happening normally and naturally?

Astonishing! It is all to do with negative powers which many people dwell in ignorantly.

Why are sikh boys marrying hindu girls and not sikh girls? There is no shortage of sikhs girls as far as I am aware of. What is wrong with sikh boys, don't they realize that this is the reason why many sikh girls end up with muslims? If you look around you will notice not many hindus or gujeraatti boys married to sikh girls. This goes to show they are reluctant to commit to other than their own.

I have also known many sikh girls and boys marrying outside of there race and religion with there childrren ending up with muslims and also having kids with them outside of the marriage. Many punjabi sikh girls also having ended with black guys and having kids with no marriage.

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You really need to visit other forums to find out what people thing about interfaith and interrace marriages. They don't write positive comments. Everyone wants to marry in there own race and religions and many don't recognise marriages outsiede there ethnicity or religion. You need to all wake up and stop thinking it a good thing. Both are evil, whether interfaith or interrace, these marriages donot work. They both have problems. In interfaith marriages, the couples just pretend they understand each othes religions but they never do. They pretend to keep the peace only. Their children also know how fake the parents are when they do this to stop fights with each othes and the relateves. In the end children change there religions to other relgions or become atheists. Interrace marriages are too full of problems as the couples come from alien cultures from their birth cultures. There is always one who has to compromise all the times and the children soon learne who is the stronger out of the two parents. One partner has to give in always and the marriage is not equal it is unfair. The children also suffer in this set up.