Kira

I prepare for tests by taking what im taught and applying it to whatever question that may come up, I have no idea which kind of tests you take/taken but the ones im used to aren't simply "What is X?" Guru Sahib was given the advice to love and respect his wife. And never share the bed of another woman, why would Guru Tegh Bahudar Ji advice his son never to share another woman's bed if he wasn't implying beforehand that loving your wife does encompass a physical aspect. If that aspect however engulfs someone then it is Kaam. The same is said for heterosexual encounters. You keep confusing Kaam with anything sex related. Marriage is the union of 2 souls, it's spiritual, Love can be expressed in non-sexual ways. i have never said that a physical relationship outside of marriage is right, please dont put words in my mouth. I was addressing all this "gay is clearly kaam based" nonsense. You're taking the literal meaning off it and refusing to explore what it actually means. The advice was to encourage faithfulness and devotion. the 5 evils we are warned about are caused mostly by an increase of a certain thing or virtue. Can you name one Gursikh from Guru Ji's time who was homosexual? I'm not trying to smart here, im actually intrigued by this. Of course they can. We all can, the vices are the biggest demons in all our lives. What has that got to do with anything? The Guru's accomplished many great social changes in their times. But that has nothing to do with the Rehet maryada which was written up a good few decades ago (1950s) I believe. It was created by the Sikh Sangat and many takhsals have their own variations. That only proves my point that social factors would influence it greatly as even during that time the SGPC were in the pockets of India. They still are, they've never ever gone against them. Their still afraid of the word Khalistan and even struggled to point the finger at indra Ghandi for her acts of pure evil. Our Physical appearance,orientation, race etc shouldn't have any impact on our spiritual Journey. Many people here are treating "gay" as a disease that needs to be cured. a homosexual couple who spiritually push themselves forwards together have just as much of a chance of reaching Akal Purkh as a hetrosexual couple. I'd like to add that I was born in India, I spent a large chunk of my childhood there and I go back regularly. Saying that I'm "brainwashed" because i hold a different view to you is rather unsikh-like.

You don't need to celebrate Christmas. Honestly just celebrate a time of family. Only people that actually Celebrate christmas now are the die hard christians.

I'm actually disgusted by some of the responses by the posters here. I usually just read this forum but I felt compelled to respond here. Being gay (homosexuality) isn't a choice. It's not something that you just decide to become, it's not circumstantial and it's defensively not something that arises from Kaam. Homosexuality isn't seeing a man and then lusting after him. The same way you would see a woman, a gay man would see a man. Guru sahib restricts us from following after Kaam, in any shape or form. There was even a dictation (a part of Gurbani I think) where Guru Tegh Bahudar Ji spoke to Guru Gobind singh Ji about a similar topic. He spoke about how it was alright for someone (in this case Guru ji) to enjoy the physical aspects of a relationship. However he warned the young Guru that he mustn't even dream of going to another. That alone should speak Volumes to the people claiming homosexuality is just lust. It isn't. Gurbani is silent on the matter, for everyone assuming that Guru Sahib should spoon feed us everything then you're honestly wrong. They provided us with the tools to go about our lives. Waheguru made gay people and they should be accepted into Sikhism, they can lead a normal life WHILE being a Sikh. Whether the anad karaj should be extended to them I'm not qualified to answer, im still young and probably unaware. I'd like to add that the person justifying the Rehet Maryada made by the SGPC really needs to know the exact context behind it. They live in Punjab, a part of India where woman are still treated badly, the caste system exists and murders can walk away. Do you honestly think they would add into the Rehet that 2 men should get married? the mere thought of it would result in riots and protests.