Kira

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  1. You should try castration..sure fire way to deal with masturbation.
  2. So let me get this straight. You wanted evidence so I gave you it but suddenly its all too much? I've just presented you with evidence from multiple sources, one of whom comes from a Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. All of whom just said that Farid Ji met Guru Nanak Dev Ji and he ISN'T the same one as the on residing in the 12th Century. At-least have the balls to admit you were wrong. eh have you ever bothered reading Anand Sahib? There's an entire pauri there devoted to the topic of listening to the Guru, and the Guru made every sikh drink Amrit. So tell me again how my definition of Sikh is wrong when its the very one that Guru Gobind Singh Ji followed. This whole "definition of a Sikh" is getting off topic. The point of this thread was to point out Farid Ji was a Sikh. If you wish to discuss this then make a new thread. I have exams so I won't be answering anymore, however the Sangat here share my views so I'm sure they'll answer you just fine.
  3. you know there is something called an Index? Page 89. The same is mentioned in Bhai Mani Singh Ji's JanamSakhis, so will you now argue that Bhai Mani Singh Ji didn't know what he was talking about? My definition is the one laid out by Guru Sahib. Cry all you want but you're fallible, Guru Sahib isn't.
  4. You keep repeating the same thing yet you provide no evidence for anything you say. Right. Continue to flaunt hot air, if Labels were so bad then why does Bhai Gurdas Ji use them, why does Gurbani use them. "systematically undermine it" Don't make me laugh. You tried to assert Farid Ji wasn't a Sikh and that went badly. Now you have evidence that you were talking about the wrong Farid Ji so you decide to just ignore it and say "i can undermine it" ok then kiddo.
  5. MY proposition is flawed? ok then. Please go through that post bit by bit and point out where the flaws are, point out where in that quote that this Farid wasn't the contemporary of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. You simply decided off the top of your head that it was the Baba from 350 years ago. So prove it. All you do is making sweeping statements and have nothing to back it up. I'm not even raging, I'm just baffled someone is so clueless about the very history they come here to discuss. http://www.vidhia.com/Bhai Veer Singh Ji/Puratan Janam Sakhi Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji-Bhai Vir Singh Punjabi.pdf Here you go. Purtan Jaman Sakhis from the 19th Century done by a Historian who also agrees with me. So please, go on. Refute him and dissect his evidence.
  6. So basically you want evidence, you get evidence and then you throw a hissy fit because it completely negates your viewpoint. Ok then. Enjoy your time, I think you have some major issues to deal with.
  7. Did you even bother to read the quote from Bilija Singh I put up? Clearly not.
  8. Yes he did. However as I was corrected, the Farid Ji in Bani was a contemporary of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. So He actually met Guru Nanak Dev Ji in his physical form after he manifested in Talwandi.
  9. ਸੁਣੀ ਪੁਕਾਰਿ ਦਾਤਾਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਗ ਮਾਹਿ ਪਠਾਇਆ। "ਚਰਨ ਧੋਇ ਰਹਰਾਸਿ ਕਰਿ ਚਰਣਾਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਪੀਲਾਇਆ || He literally says, Guru Nanak Dev Ji made his Sikhs drink Charan Pahul Amrit. If it was un-necessary he wouldn't have done it. If you want to learn about the importance of Amrit read this. http://www.vidhia.com/Bhai Randheer Singh Ji/Meaning-of-amrit.pdf
  10. If you believe he was a Sikh then as Bhai Gurdas Ji said he must have taken Charan Pahul as it was mandatory to become a Sikh.
  11. What an absolutely stupid thing to say. If Baba Buddha Ji wasn't a Sikh in your book then that's fine. That quote alone says that all Sikhs of Guru Nanak took Charan pahul. If that excludes Baba Buddha Ji because you can't seem to see him as a Sikh then please the fault is in you.
  12. I recommend you read Gurbani then. There's ample on the subject, Look up Maskeen Ji on youtube, he's done videos on it (yes he happens to be proficient in Sikh History and all the Granths out there).
  13. We just established that Guru Nanak Dev Ji can manifest anywhere and anytime he wants. Do you actually think it takes mental acrobatics to conclude that Guru Nanak Dev Ji appeared to Farid Ji? If you want evidence that Baba Buddha then please pick up any historical Granth pre-1900. I'm really done here, its apparent you're either purposely being thick or simply too dim. I'll assume its the former.
  14. Charan Pahul Amrit was done to all Sikhs who wished to enter the house of Nanak. Stop telling lies now. Guru Angad Dev Ji received the Gurgaddi, in the form of Bhai Lehna Ji he had taken Charan Pahul too.