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Everything posted by MisterrSingh

  1. Surrey Nagar Kirtan - Ahmediya Muslim Stall

    Ahmediyas: a historically persecuted -- at the hands of mainstream Islam! -- Muslim sect that's held up as an example of the "good", acceptable, and tolerant side of Islam. Yet, this is what happens when you give any Islamic group an inch; they reveal their true hand, and reach for a mile! This is EXACTLY the reason I roll my eyes when people get misty eyed about fringe Muslim sects -- such as Sufis -- being an antidote to the mainstream khattar orthodoxy of the Sunni & Shia crews. The fact isn't that Ahmediyas and Sufis don't share the beliefs and the aim of their Ummah brethren, i.e. the establishment of the Caliphate and the subjugation of the Kaffir. The difference is these minor sects desire the same outcomes as their bigger brothers, only they aren't too fussed on getting to that destination in a hurry, as opposed to the Sunnis and Shia who want it all yesterday. The Ummah reigns supreme. Muslim apologists and sympathisers are either too dense to process this FACT, or are willfully omitting these inconvenient truths in order to strengthen their narrative of #notallmuslims.
  2. I flagged up this issue a few years ago. Nothing. I said back then we're going to see traumatized young Sikhs in the next decade and more, taking this to the western media, which will bring us so much behzti, and will funnily enough dissuade future generations from Sikh-centric events and causes... so, basically doing the Indian intelligence services job on their behalf. Now it's still relatively in-house, but the [censored] chamche and enablers we've cultivated in our communities are doing a fantastic job of being in denial, either through ignorance or because of utter delusion, because their favourite [censored] has a silver tongue or can hold a note or two on the stage, which obviously means he / they must be beyond reproach(!) I'll repeat what I said a few years ago: we seem to have inadvertently created a situation in the West where young, gay or bisexual Sikh men are using the religious and communal social apparatus to indulge their sexual urges, believing they are hidden from plain view. Gay does not equal paedophile, but when there's an overlap of these same individuals trying their luck with underage boys in their supposed care at these get-togethers and camps, then we have a serious problem.
  3. War In Syria

  4. War In Syria

    Lying British and American scum. The media stooges making the case for these strikes need hanging. The plan was always Iraq > Afghanistan > Libya > Syria > Iran > Russia. Saudis are comfortably in bed with the various western governments and agencies pushing their respective agendas. I expect another flimsy pretext for war to emerge in the next few years, with Iran being next, perhaps in another 10 or so years. Meanwhile, the incessant disinformation and brainwashing will continue.
  5. Punjabiyat - An issue for Sikhs

    I had the exact same thought yesterday. I agree, the positive aspects of our culture such as our language, our folklore, and other cultural and historical markers should be treasured for posterity, but I can't help but think we've lost our way. In many ways I think Punjabiyat has inadvertently dumbed down the impact and image of Sikhi. I look at the contemporary figureheads of the Panth, and I think, "No. You can fool these simpletons, but you aren't making a mug out of me. You're not what Dasme Paatshah had in mind for us." But, as I said, there are some wonderful aspects to our culture besides the weird self-destructive and egoistic pandering parts of it. I'll try to briefly summarise the problem as I see it, and I genuinely believe a considerable aspect of the overall problem lies in third party perception as well as our own Punjabi interpretations gradually bleeding into that which should be immutable. In Sikhi we have a philosophy that, if gifted to a community of people who came from medieval Italy, for argument's sake, would be considered a treasure for humanity. The problem as addressed by this topic arises because of the somewhat erroneous assumption (I wouldn't quite call it discriminatory) that the humble origins of the faith and the seemingly... unsophisticated following who took up the faith are considered to be an indication of the substance and value of the philosophy itself. We haven't done ourselves any favours in this regard, as this is where I believe Punjabiyat is wielded as a stick to beat Sikhi, because we've sort of floundered and coasted along since the arguable golden age of our faith, and eventually for the admittedly essential act of survival and proliferation we've become the very thing that we weren't kind of supposed to, i.e. an organised religion and everything it entails. We've switched off. We just follow without any serious khoj. Coupled with the human desire to create factions and subgroups for various purposes, which could be argued is even more of a problem in desi cultures, there's a sense we've forgotten and neglected the spirit of that essential founding spark which allowed our faith to emerge. Being surrounded by the Indianess of India on all sides means we've regressed socially, intellectually, and spiritually. There's so much going on, and can't be pinned on a few reasons.
  6. Forced Marriage

    Like I said previously, he seems like a decent chap. I'm simultaneously frustrated with his lack of gumption and a serious dearth of street smarts and healthy cynicism. Again, I've seen two close friends of mine chewed up and spat out by the Punjabi marriage process, and I think I'm seeing something similar here. Although in this instance the girl seems to be faultless.
  7. State of the UK - Is it safe?

    I said "people." I never alluded to their nationality or ethnicity. My next door neighbours are a family of Nigerian Christians. Most kindest and warmest people I've ever known. They've shown me more love than any Sikh ever has. There's savages in all races. In this particular context, there's a hathi in the room not many are eager to discuss, which is ironic considering there's many, many black nationalities and ethnicities who have no problem calling a spade a spade. It's the perpetually offended "educated" white man who's terrified of conducting a frank and honest discussion. That's ultimately to their detriment as history will prove one day.
  8. Forced Marriage

    You aren't cutout for a Punjaban. If you're incapable of acknowledging your own character, personality type, and general demeanour at the age of 32, then I just don't know what to say. Look for a Sikh woman closer to your own personality in your own country. You'll never find the things you're looking for in Punjab. A UK born braggart can blag a marriage to a Punjaban, and make a decent go of it. You seem like the sensitive sort to put it mildly. They can smell that on a man from a mile away. You'll be on the backfoot from the moment she claps her eyes on you. Be honest with yourself. Acknowledge your shortcomings whatever they may be. Even with everything you're going through, your refusal to introspect and learn is shocking.
  9. State of the UK - Is it safe?

    Some of the c4@p I've heard all week from some of the most so-called educated and informed people in society in regards to this issue, tells me this country doesn't have very long remaining. Delusional cowards. Let it burn. Protect yourselves and your families as best you can. If these animals and their enablers want to destroy each other, they can go right ahead. As unpopular as the following sentiment may be, until society accepts the idea that some people are born bad -- lower life forms who've inhabited the garb of Man -- then nothing will ever change. You could spend your entire life trying to plead with, reason, and tolerate these individuals. The tragedy is good people having to share living space with such individuals.
  10. Forced Marriage

    Hit your missus with this classic. She'll be putty in your hands. Don't be a Balaiti you-know-what.
  11. Forced Marriage

    Having gone back and re-read this topic and further replies, I have to say I feel the girl is not to blame in this situation. Notwithstanding her dull personality and everything we know about the contemporary Punjaban, that's no excuse to discard her when she doesn't meet expectations. That's really poor form. She's entered this marriage with seemingly good intentions. The pickiness being shown by OP should've been enacted before the marriage. I can appreciate a guy in his early 20's being coerced into marriage, but early 30's? It's uncommon, but OP shouldn't have let it happen. Whilst I'm not onboard with the Bollywood-ised solutions being proposed by some in this thread, you need to step up and sort this out like a bundha. Either make a go of it, or tell her parents you aren't bringing her over, and accordingly sort out something on the divorce front. Unfortunately, if you do end it, you won't be able to prevent her parents and family from kicking off. That's unavoidable. They might take things really badly, and in that case you'll have to deal with some pretty stark stuff. They'll be gunning for you, and looking to hurt you in any way possible. As I said, there's no cordiality in Punjabi divorce. You're going to be liable for a hefty sum of cash if you decide to part ways. Again, unavoidable. I get the impression you think you deserve a better "rank" of girl, but I'll be honest, I don't think you're quite deserving of the kind of female you're imagining. You have some serious growing up to do. I think you have a good heart, but somehow you've been browbeaten and dominated by overbearing family and parents, and that's never good for a guy. There's a way of being a respectful and obedient son without being oblivious and a walkover. You've got some soul-searching to do, preferably some that involves honourable behaviour.
  12. You keep chipping away on as many fronts as possible until those who write the narrative of society deem your cause worthy of being noticed. If you're lucky, the cause is promoted and championed by these social trendsetters and mood-makers. Then watch how it passes into the acceptable and normal mainstream. Until then, be prepared to be demonised, slandered, and killed. It's all one disturbing game; disturbing because what's at stake are the lives of millions.
  13. Taking my leave :)

  14. India

    This phenomenon you've rightly observed is brought into even greater relief when you go to Nankana Sahib in Pakistan. The atmosphere and general state of the asthaans in Pakistan is almost like travelling back in time to our Guru Sahib's era. I can't decide whether it's a case of neglect (Muslims gonna Muslim) or a desire to maintain those sites in a style that is as close to their original condition as possible. Don't get me wrong, they aren't in a total state of disrepair or anything as grave as that, but what's noticeable when compared to Indian based asthaans is the general lack of that feeling of sterility of visiting a tourism spot (in that typically cack-handed, ostentatious Indian way that just seems to be pushed to the extreme) which is what's gradually happening to major religious sites in Punjab. The historical and spiritual authenticity of our holy sites is being replaced by something I'm certain is doing more harm than good. Maintenance and upkeep is good, but not at the expense of the overall feel and experience of the place.
  15. Forced Marriage

    Something, something, Alexander The Great, something, something, letters to mother, something, something, Punjabans ploughing the fields. Apparently, they're born with it, maybe it's Maybelline.
  16. Game of geopolitics between the major powers

    Many games being played on both sides. They're making mugs of us. Don't fall for it.
  17. Forced Marriage

    ^^^ Some of his ideas are not applicable to our culture and our history. It takes a discerning mind to learn what does and doesn't apply to us. A rebuttal for the idea that "You need a partner who is a challenge" requires the exploration of so many caveats and incredibly nuanced cultural norms on our part. Having a white partner who is a challenge is a whole 'nother world compared to being with a Punjaban partner who is a challenge. Petersen's definition of challenge doesn't mean someone who makes life difficult for her mate -- because that's all she knows -- but someone who challenges their partner to think, grow, adapt, and improve themselves. How many of our women are even cognisant of such concepts, honestly?
  18. Forced Marriage

    Her parents and the divorce lawyer will have her singing to their tune sooner rather than later. There is no, "we parted on good terms" when it comes to Punjabi divorce. I know 2 guys who underwent similar ordeals a few years apart. They were the kind of Singhs who wouldn't say boo to a ghost. They did the whole non-consumation thing; "the girl is on my side even though we're divorcing," believing it was the right thing to do, but it just never works out that way. One of them got accused of beating up his bride because he couldn't get it up on the wedding night, and the other fellow was said to be gay! Whatever happens will be a wake-up call for OP. I hope he learns from his mistakes.
  19. Forced Marriage

    If you end up divorcing, don't expect this act of integrity to be reciprocated or respected during the ongoing legal proceedings against you. In fact, it'll be used to malign you; basically you'll be accused of being unable to "perform" or you'll be labelled a homosexual. It's a common Punjabi divorce tactic used by the girl's side to keep her "honour" intact, so that any future marriage proposals aren't jeopardised by the suggestion that she isn't "untouched." Of course, since you never went to bed with her and you don't seem like the most worldly of guys, there's no way of knowing whether someone else hadn't already had his way with her before you were married to her. What you thought was an act of chivalry will actually be used against you in the worst possible way. These people are not what you think they are.
  20. Are Sikhs responsible before the Sangat?

    The sangat has to be worthy of the title, in my opinion. Having a gaggle of - hitherto undiscovered - adulterers, fraudsters, and practitioners of the dark arts (😁) sitting in judgement of someone who's a comparative angel compared to the types of individuals I've mentioned, is laughably poor form. Nobody's going to voluntarily raise their hand and come clean about their own transgressions, but you better believe there's going to be some holier-than-thou finger wagging occurring when the chappal is on the other foot. In theory it's undoubtedly a fine practice, but knowing all we do about our people and human behaviour in general, how is it enforceable in a way that does justice to the obviously good and honourable religious precedent established by our spiritual and religious guides?
  21. Sikh and Hindus Build mosque

    Our (as in non-Islamic populations) survival instincts have been dulled by a combination of selectively interpreting religious doctrine so that it's as inoffensive and watered-down as to make it irrelevant to the day-to-day human experience (and in some cases, a complete denial of the existence of divinity), and a naive social pacifism that will ultimately work against us in the long-term, minus the short-term basking in the glow of our arrogant, self-congratulatory benevolence. Turning the other cheek as all paths lead to God will not be of any purpose to those who want to survive the gradual intrusion of Islam on this mortal plane! Ironically, our Islamic friends have doubled down and are being encouraged to be unapologetic about their ways and their beliefs, whilst everyone else of a non-Islamic hue is subtly chastised and dissuaded from wishing to preserve their own ways and beliefs. How does anyone not see where this is all heading?
  22. Sikh and Hindus Build mosque

    Wonderful, heartwarming news... if we lived in Satyug. Unfortunately, Kalyug is where we reside, and this magnanimous act of interfaith warmth and solidarity has laid the foundations for an act that will bear bitter fruit for these Hindus and Sikhs decades into the future. Survival of the fittest. If you refuse to learn the countless lessons of history, then perhaps you deserve to be erased from existence.
  23. The fate of empires

    The Indian mainstream is scrambling around for an identity that resonates beyond their borders on an international level. They truly believe India is a sleeping giant, and should be dining at the top table. This kind of ambition does count for something, and I'm sure it will inch them forward over the next few decades, but overall the poverty, the corruption, and general sense of third-worldness won't be shaken off anytime soon. Funnily enough, I think the sheer size of the place and the maddening diversity of languages, cultures, and faiths (albeit all of an Eastern flavour) mean an organic, gradual, and "natural" collapse isn't on the cards, unlike England which is happily and obliviously marching towards its fall. I believe Europe the continent -- and by extension the civilisation that grew from as far back as the impact of the Enlightenment -- is in its death throes. We are embarking on the journey into Decadence and decline. Europe will end before India does if things are allowed to run their natural course. If we factor a devastating regional war, perhaps nuclear, into the mix, then there's no saying what will happen.