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Sant baba gurbachan Singh Ji has done katha of the 16th solak in sukhmani sahib. Anyone who listens to Sant jis katha knows, Sant ji goes into detail when explaining history. Yet here Sant jis just says, it is said Sri Chand was asked to put his input into sukhmani sahib. Sant ji did not believe this to be true. Just from his tone and word choice shows he doesn't. Also Sant ji katha on Bhai Gurdas Ji vaar about Sri Chand sitting close to the Guru (Guru Nanak Dev Ji), yet unable to gain the virtues shows Sri Chand was not even close to having the Gurus wisdom in him. Also Suraj Parkash granth is not fully accepted by the actual jathedars of DamDami Taksal. They outright reject Suraj Parkash on what happened to the Punj Pyare head. Kavi Santosh Singh says goats heads were cut. Sant ji completely rejects this nonsense.

He's pulling at torn up strings that are not even their to begin with. He lives in a bubble.

Just more hoo-ha and no substance. Since you are not used to factual debates. Let me help you. Provide some write up with substance. A pargraph, page, etc with reference to creditable source's. Please no more hoo-ha. Save it for when Sikh Awareness is back up.

When you can't find an explanation for your illogical beliefs, you say the above to the wider sangat. Gurbani explains everything fine by the way. I pretty sure you did not read Sikh history to obtain the story you said in the previous post. You got that off one of your baba and said it here, without looking up the source or reading Gurbani before accepting it. Stop diverting the thread of discussing the op's originally presented write up. You know and I know, you have nothing of substance to add.

If you were right, Sri Guru Hargobind sahib Ji would have added to Gurbani about Sri Chand changing, in the same place where Sri Chand is said to have turned his back on Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji. Neither did any of the later Gurus add anything about Sri Chand changing into a good person. Gurbani declares a prostitute changed and a robber, without a doubt, if Sri Chand changed later in life to bow before the wisdom of Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji, it would have been stated in Gurbani. The Gurus would have not left Sri Chand face blackened in Gurbani if he had changed. The person who follows corrupt Hari Singh Randhawa needs to stop. I follow Gurbani.

To the unaware this may sound innocent and actual praise of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. But this is not. Direct your attention to this last bit Siri Chand, Nanak's son, declares Nanak is unattainable, unfathomable Sri Chand is a nobody. He cannot declare anything of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Sri Chand turned his back on Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji. Later in life, Sri Chand out of animosity toward Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji built a statue for Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, to divert Sikhs from going to Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji; Bhai Gurdas Ji vaars. Sri Chand said the above to make himself an authority. He is a black faced person who will never be respected by those who grab the feet of Gurbani. Gurbani declares Guru Nanak Dev Ji as Vaheguru and no one else has the right.

He purposely started to slander Sant baba Thakur Singh Ji. He knows what baba Ji has done for the Khalsa Panth. Good on the Singhs for stopping this guy. The way he was staring Sangat down while under police escort, shows he was purposely looking for a fight. Good thing Singh's didn't punish him right then and there.

So you want to start your post with religious views, but very quickly you want to promote kaam (lust) in the second half of your post. What does this have to do with compassion. Gays are attached to the idea of having a family and raising kids. Satguru Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib ji very clearly says the family will not want you once dead. They will call you a ghost and have the people take you away from them. Satguru says to attach your family relationship desire to Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Don't have desires about family, kids, and family life. The life of Sikh devoted to Akal Purakh is prescribed for the family man and woman. Enjoy conjugal bliss? Satguru says clearly sexual instinct is to be rooted out and enjoy singing Gurbani. Love for the spouse is considered maya as well. Again refer to Satguru Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib. You don't have compassion in your mind in your conjugal bliss. Where is your compassion statement now. In two seconds you changed into a lustful and family attached creature. Why is it hell on earth? Do gay men hate women? That is the picture you are painting with the above statement. Both, considering they are Sikh, go to the advice of Gurbani and attach themselves to Akal Purakh. Gurbani says as a drug addict loves his drug and does not allow anything else cross his mind, in this way love Akal Purakh and nothing else will cross your mind and put you in duality. Again you have lust on your mind. Read the bolded part and this is lust. Face it, you want to force your lustful views on Sikhi. You are no different than the heterosexuals, who want to use Sikhi to ravish the opposite sex using Sikhi. There is no compassion in your heart. Only lust, and by the end of this post you will be full of anger. Dhan Dhan Baba Deep Singh ji Shaheed, was not in duality as you are. He was spiritually wise and would never allow Anand Karaj of homosexuals. He was a Sikh of the Guru and loved his Guru more than anything in this world. Vaheguru created homosexuals and Vaheguru's hukam runs their lives. Vaheguru and Gurbani (Sikhi) are one and the same. Sikhi always existed, even before creation came into existence. You have nothing, no power, no right to claim any ownership for anything. Driven by ego, lust, and attachment now. In one post you have indulged in three out of the 5 vices. Sikh men are always fighting for their rights. The establishment is always trying to take our rights away. Western countries have allowed homosexuals to get married. No one ask them what their sexual orientation is when apply for a job. Yet Sikh men are easily discriminated against because we are visible. Don't hide the fact we are Sikhs. Wear the dastar proudly and uncut hair, flowing beard. A homosexual can go into a job interview and the interviewers would never know the man is a homosexual. He can go living his life with the same job in the same company till retirement and no one will know he is gay. A Sikh male in the first interview has been and will be discriminated against because of his visible identity. Stop crying crocodile tears, you don't know what discrimination is.

There is Maryada for reading from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, pothi, gutka. This maryada must be kept for proper respect of Gurbani. Why not cap? When was the last time a person washed it? NEVER because washing a cap ruins it majority of the time. So many people don't wash their caps. if they do it's after weeks of wearing it. Same cap is used for many other activities and is constantly touched, dropped, full of sweat, etc. It's similar for serving langar in the Gurdwara or anywhere else where the Guru's langar is being provided to the sangat. As a person is fulfilling a duty given to them by the Guru. There is a requirement to follow about dress because this is not your place. It is the place of the Guru. Bowing the head is not enough. Bow with the mind and cover the head with the provided head covers when doing langar di seva.

That site wants attention. Whether it is good or bad they will take whatever publicity they get. Don't feed the wild dog. No one can tame those people. Natural death is the only way these wild dogs will leave the Khalsa Panth alone. One or two have met their fate, the few remaining will be on the same course in couple of years. Don't report, write, inform anyone of their activities. Their existence will become so small that they don't matter.

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So when you attacked feminist over their with your slander it is being not feeble minded or lazy, but countering nangs with evidence is being feeble minded or lazy? You are the definition of an internet warrior.

Yes, when I challenge others post, it is seen as I am slandering them by a few. Questioning their core beliefs and I can see how others will start swearing at me for it. I can remember, I challenged your beliefs as well. That didn't go well either. You closed up, got mad and left. This is a discussion forum. Every belief and/or opinion will be challenged. Many here get personal and start playing the victim as they slander the other person. That's right your the Christian lady; always presenting Christian beliefs and trying to claim they are Sikhi teachings as well. Now I can see why you wrote this hateful post toward me. I think you should put a little "c" by your username so I can remember what you are about on this forum.

Poster Harsharan declares himself to be a Sant Sipahe and Sants do not get angry. They are like the lotus flower. Even Gursikhs avoid anger, so I wonder what you are saying with your comment on Harsharan. Finally, some honesty coming from your post; poster Harsharan should stop using the word f*d*. I see your point. Reading your post on this topic makes it clear a girl from your house would be liberal minded. Intermingling, experimenting with the bad side of life would be considered.........they are teens, that's what teens do. The double standard would be there as well. Other people's daughters would be judged with Sikhi teachings and not the rishta you were questioning me about. This girl would be allowed to misbehave as long as the father doesn't know and especially done behind closed doors in a different state and/or country. The slogan.........what is done in vegas stays in vegas will be the family cheer. I remember one such family, their daughter was shown in the community to be noble and not promiscuous. She would change clothing in the background while her brother video chatted with friends in the same room. Even sit in her underwear watching tv in front of the parents, but in public she was the good girl; the role model every girl should be following. She wasn't amritdhari, but the family was seen in the public as girsikh. So thank you for your honesty. I can see how your rishta with me would end with ruining her life. I would be saying don't be promiscuous and she would be like you are old, backward...this is the 21 century....paaath is part of the later centuries, I just need to be a good person.

I wouldn't be surprised...lol. when I viewed Sikh awareness the members were always swearing at each other. Dalsingh, Chatanga, lucksingh99, even there admin would get involved to swear at members who presented a different view. But when it came to tackling the nang and their views. These internet warriors were hiding in the dirt. It will be a blessing if it actually closed down for good. However I believe it has closed down to protect certain people, especially neo. He's been known to harm the khalsa panth from the inside.

Never apologized because I did nothing wrong. Yet are you going to acknowledge the swearing coming out of poster harsharan and let him know to stop? A Sikh doesn't pick sides, a Sikh stands by truth. Let's see how long it will take you to acknowledge his wrong doing. I am guessing you will never do it and it shows your dedication to Sikhi. Do you have a girl in your house that needs a rishta? Is this why you are asking when I will get married.

There is something sinister going on behind the scene by the people who created and viciously promoted the word khaliban for Sikhs, regardless of that forum closing down or not.

This Sant sipahe poster harsharan has been busy meditating over the past week. Take a sneak peek at his most recent mantras.

You have a jaded point of view on the topic and are only trying to protect your original stand here. If you were honest about telling people to stop insulting others. You would have posted against poster harsharan a long time ago. I called you a western master slave because you went with what you wanted to accuse me of saying, rather than going with what I said. I clearly laid out what type of girls in Punjab are bad and to avoid. Instead of going with what I said, you accuse me of what I have not said. So this makes you an illogical assumptive, generalizing, antagonizing weirdo that likes to blame people for what they have not stated and start a fight.

If you mean a person who purposely poked at youngsters to lash out and then claim to be the victim, he surely was a visionary to purposely created problems in the Khalsa Panth. But don't worry, hes just started. He has big plan for the youth to come. People thought Ujjal dosanjh was bad for making up false stories about Sikh terrorist, you have seen nothing yet. coining the word khaliban was only the beginning of his drama. He has a vendetta with the Khalsa Panth.

by in-depth you mean, Neo allowed you to go off on your insult rants and when others would fire back, your saviour neo would come out of the blue and make sure the other person was punished for swearing at you.

Well Panthpreet tried and he ran away with his tail between his legs after he threatened me. Now you are making the same type of threat and you are very similar to Panthpreet. Guess what you would do? Panthpreet tried to create drama as you are, but it didn't work. What makes you think your drama will work? Plus your threat can get you in a lot of trouble, but not with me. I have let a lot of swearing and insults go from you. Now you are threatening me.

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I have been talking about promiscuous behaviour because the topic here is about which girls get into promiscuous behavior. It is a discussion about how to avoid these type of girls for marriage. And all you see is sex??? So I am to blame because you can't control your sexual desires when speaking about promiscuous girls. Your the type of people who can't see the advice in charitorpakhyan. All you see is sex acts. If you can't have this conversation without getting aroused, then stop messaging here. Why didn't you tell me in your first post that you were sexually aroused by talking about, which girls are more likely to get involved in promiscuous behaviour. Go change your pants. I don't want to know what will happen to you when reading Gurbani and Guru Sahib mentions the word nipple. First get the lump out of your pants and then speak about which girl does what. Ever heard of dastar girls taking their dastar off to go clubbing? Well it's a reality. The dastar nicely hides the straightened hair and what's better than having a friends apartment to get dressed up for clubbing; I meant dressed down. Obviously, it's no political union with a western girl, the guy has no power. Not even the lump in your pants has power. She can go else where and get it and you can't do anything. Go ahead divorce her, she will take 75% of what you have. Then you will be running to daddi ji crying, who was also kicked out of the house because he asked to use the bathroom. Not even the amritdhari Singhs have any power. These guys are ready to commit suicide because they married a western bibi. Not much of a bibi, just a girl with a dastar. Singhs are complaining because their bibi doesn't stop looking at other Singhs at the Gurdwara..........hes my brother...big hug with another singh. Travel back 5 years and she used to date him on the low. The Gursikhs are complaining because such women won't even leave them alone at the Gurdwara. Some even avoid big programs and come at random times to get Maharaj darshan. Good girls in the west are the 1%er's. They are rare and the chances of getting their rishta is very slim. So why try in a pool where you know the chances are low. Better off going to Punjab, where the chances are higher.

Well if you were aware of her behaviour in the past from different threads, you would understand why I used such a title for her. She justified the slander of me by poster harsharan. Basically said I deserved it and gave harsharan a good job...double thumbs up. Plus she supports manmat post by harsharan and targets anyone else who post manmat post. For example poster preet. She viciously attacks poster preet, but has a special place for harsharan manmat post. She has a doubt standard and my comment about her and harsharan reflect this special bond they hold on this forum. I clearly laid out who is good and bad in my post. But you are so caught up in your western masters slavery, you can't see before your eyes. Go back an read what I have wrote. If not going to, then don't comment on my post. I clearly laid out what keeps a girl away from promiscuous behaviour. Since you have a hard time reading and only have a selective lense for your western masters benefit. I will post here for your benefit what I said. Obvsiously, there is more to your cousin story than you are telling and obviously, your cousin was not smart enough to follow the elders teachings, which bring the correct spouse over from india. here paste this on your wall and make it a mantra, but don't let your western masters see. They might just whip you. Girls in Punjab are not all the same. The one`s who live in big cities are more likely to be stained with a similar brush as the UK girls. Girls who leave for university outside of the family unit will be in a similar situation as the girls in a bigger city. Unless she finds sangat in this manures field who does not also prescribe to the promiscuous lifestyle. But girls in the pind that have their family and brothers and cousins to watch out for them have not indulged in this behaviour. They had no chance and their moral compass does not allow them. There sangat never existed of girls who were promiscuous and if, ever they befriend a girl who is. The brother makes sure that friendship does not last more than 2 seconds. Clearly you don't have a clue of what are virtues when coming to rishta. How if her dad was looking for a rich family like 95% of the Punjabis with girls and the family was drunks or had similar behaviour as drunks? So the girl would honor her father by going to a drunk house and get mentally and physically abused!!!! This is your backwards fanatical thinking. Leave it in your head and never speak this garbage ever again. Do you know how many girls have destroyed their lives because of this dumb mentality? Forget about divorce, girls have died at the hands of such families. Finally, some sound advice. However, pind girls are less likely to get involved in promiscuous behaviour because they have less of a chance and add what I said about brothers and cousins, now their chance is zero. Girls from the city are let out more, less joint families, so no aunt or uncle around to watch when the parents out working. Parents mostly do jobs on the outside. Next door neighbor are random people who have no relationship with the family. They send their girls out without male immediate family. Only thing bounding a girl to moral and ethical behaviour is her own moral values. Which in today's society means nothing. Pind people make their money off farming and mom, chachi, brothers, cousins are home while one brother is in the farm. If they don't make money off of farming then it's lease payments and/or the dad is only working outside. Most likely two sister are married in one house and both help taking care of the kids. Girls have love and support at home and they don't look for it outside. Next door neighbor is highly likely immediate family and they can help taking their daughters to school and stay in the city till her school is over. It's one big unit.