Moogle1542
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Oh God, you've been explained this by admin with 3 separate full stops and you still haven't understood? LOOOL how dumb can one person get? It's even in blue so you can't miss it. I shoulda seen this before I replied back, there is clearly no help for you.
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PLEASE, I HUMBLY REQUEST THAT WE KEEP THE TOPIC OF MEAT OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION AS IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTION. IF I MAY REPEAT MYSELF, I AM ASKING THE VEGETARIAN COMMUNITY AS TO WHETHER THE TREATMENT OF CATTLE IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED WEST VIA DAIRY FARMING IS ACCEPTABLE, AND IF NOT, SHOULD WE BECOME VEGAN? OR IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE ANSWER? THANK YOU.
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Yes. I do. They're not hard to find. I'm not sure what's so remarkably funny about that? Yes because I have a sense of maturity and attempt to engage in 'discussion'. Also, that's a wonderful assumption to make, especially on the basis that I've never worn leather in my life. Aren't you a smart cookie? Shoulda put your super powers to better use and prevented 9/11 instead. Pretend we're better? If you actually bothered to read the thread, there has been discussion between veggies, vegans & meat-eaters, all a mature exploration of each others view points on this topic. Some have agreed, some have disagreed, all have been treated respectfully. Then there's you who has one of the finest ego and superiority complexes I've ever witness on the internet (on the internet of all places LOL now that is hilarious!). 'Oh everyone look at me and my opinions, I'm right, you're all wrong, me me me me, because I eat meat'. Well done. You are a fine example of being SIkh. We should just upgrade you to Guru instead, ay? And finally, I'm still not sure why you're even here? This discussion has NOTHING to do with eating meat. It was a question to vegetarians about whether SIkhi can justify the treatment of animals in the dairy industry. Why you insist on barking like a mad dog about your meat eating ways in a topic for vegetarians like an illiterate fool is beyond me. If you eat meat - why are you persistently active in a topic for vegetarians? Man, if this way an essay question at University (the place where educated people go to have intellectual & academic discussions) then from an academic standing you would have failed tremendously. Let me just explain in a way that hopefully your mind will understand: discussion noun the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision OR TO EXCHANGE IDEAS. a conversation or DEBATE about a specific topic. debate noun a formal discussion on a particular matter ... in which OPPOSING ARGUMENTS are put forward . So I'm not sure where you're getting this 'I'm better than you' scenario from. Perhaps you should lie down and refresh you mind, see a doctor because you're obviously deluded, or take an adult English class. Thanks your input. It's truly been enlightening.
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I believe it is only specifically kutha meat
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We can only do our best and lead by example. I'm sure he is old enough to know the difference between petty comments and intelligent discussion. It is his choice to make as to how he wishes to present himself and his views. He will only make himself look like a childish fool.
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He is the type that is just here to stir trouble, rather than approach the matter like an intelligent academic, or just a decent human being with manners. It is best to just ignore such people.
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I hope you did not MISUNDERSTAND (edited!) what I meant. I completely respect your opinion on the matter and I am glad you have shared it, as that is exactly what I was looking for. I thank you for that I may have misinterpreted your comments as pushing aside valuable information, if that was not the case then accept my apologies!
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None. Cause I use non-animal tested products, so.. useless comments that offer no intellectual worth to this discussion are even more hilarious. Cute.
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If I may jump in - as a historian myself it is wonderful to come across such sources that provide insight into various scholarly viewpoints. You should not feel compelled to have to believe the view of another historian/scholar, or offended by what they say, but I hope that you will at least enjoy the intellectual & academic worth of such sources! Guruji after all was a teacher & student himself Such content encourages further education and deeper understanding of the matter - I for one am glad it was posted! :biggrin2:
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I agree with this. However the topic is not a matter of whether or not milk is allowed in Sikhi, as I know it explicitly is, but whether the treatment of cattle in today's world, particularly the industrialized West, is acceptable by Sikh standards, and if not what can we do to overcome it? EDIT: When speaking of overcoming the issue, my personal response is to go vegan, however I would not be against to the use of milk if I come across more ethical standards. I welcome everyone else's opinions and decisions regarding the matter. Thank you.
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Are you actually *edited*? Are you incapable of reading a string of words put together? I'm not here showing Sikhs how wrong they are, I asked a question. The thread topic is a QUESTION, not a STATEMENT. I'm asking for people's views and opinions, not telling them what they should do. You can't even grasp primary school level English and you want me to trust your interpretation of Bani? I don't think so. Perhaps you should go back to school and learn the functioning of a question mark (thats the thing at the end of the thread title, in case you didn't know). Also, don't act so righteous and claim you will educate someone with Bani and then take that back and mock them instead. Try not drag Bani into your egotistical and dishonest actions.
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Apologies, I am new here, but what would cause the thread to become closed?
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Apologies for asking, but could you please point it out for me please? Thank you.
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Perhaps in India or in rural areas this would not be such an issue, but unfortunately I speak as someone living in the industrial West where this happens. Perhaps this post speaks more to them than it would to those back in the Punjab pind Thank you.
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I'm sure Gurbani teaches us that a cow is a living creature, a four year old could you a cow is a living creature. It is an animal, and it is alive, and this topic is about cows. Now unless you're going to show me Gurbani that says a cow is not a living creature, I no longer understand your participation here.