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They were loyal as far as it suited them but in the meanwhile they was having secret communications with the British agents. For example the prime minister of sarkar-e-khalsa was a dogra hindu punjabi and the general gulab singh was also a hindu dogra. We all know how that turned out. The generals two who betrayed the Sikhs in the anglo-sikh wars were of brahmin hindu stock who hid themselves in hindu mandirs like a typical cowardly hindu brahmin after the surviving angry Sikh troops came looking for them after the battles, I think they were even lynched by the Sikhs after finding them from what i read from historical books. The white european generals and adventurist mercenaries who joined the Sikh Khalsa army were also traitors who even though they hated the British due to the American independence and Napoleonic wars, they still had racial loyalty to other whites than non-white powers. So they would often have secret communications with the invading white british supremacists in order to do over those they were serving at the time. Maharajah ranjit singh's govt and empire's downfall was that he trusted non-sikhs in key positions of power. He didn't purge or force conversion to those who wanted to be in his inner circle. Too many people with competing interests and loyalties then betrayed the mother land punjab and his empire because they saw better opportunities with the foreign invaders. Just like in present days we see the same thing in politics of punjab. They do each other over rather than unite and fight the common foreign occupying power (centralised Indian govt in delhi). The house of pataila has always been a kingdom of sellouts and betrayers of the Sikh panth. The founder of patiala kingdom was a vessal state in all but name of afghan invader abdali when in the mean time the Sikhs of other kingdoms and land of punjab was busy fighting and dying to save the faith and their families of the onslaught. And just as his ancestor betrayed the kaum so did the grandfather of captain amrinder singh who became a freemason to help the british against Sikh empire/punjab. And so did his father and now captain amrinder singh is also a gaddar inheriting the long legacy of traitorous behaviour and mindset by putting his lot in and siding with Indian congress party in order to have some power in the indian establishment.

Although such abuses do happen now and then it is not a wide spread problem especially in Sikh community its more a hindu and muslim centric problem as they rely on dowry in their religious scriptures and culturally its been going on for thousands of years. The abuses are a very tiny percentage there's probably more domestic abuse cases in Australian white privileged gay relationships than all the ethnic minorities put together. This article smacks of white privilege and covert racist dog whistling against ehtnic/religious minority communities the sad thing is asians/indains are too lazy to reply back to such white washed propaganda. If minorities really wanted to expose the white western cultural disgusting practices and norms such as wide spread abuse from alcoholism. Domestic violence prevalent in white communities in homosexual couples too. The amount of single parent families in white households. The outrageous neglect of elderly by white communities... then list would be endless and the whites would be outraged enough to try and defend their negative cultural practices and counter bash minority communities. It's long over due that time ethnic/religious community especially ours started to defend ourselves in the mainstream mass media produce counter pieces and counter propaganda against our accusers. otherwise this overt racism will just keep on happening. And next time you are looked at negatively for jobs, or in the street attacked cos of your faith or appearance it is because of such articles helped contribute to it.

Court directs Google India to remove videos on Sikh Gurus The court restrained Google India Pvt Ltd from uploading or publishing any video or article containing hate speeches and derogatory remarks against any religion, in particular against Sikh gurus and the religion india Updated: Nov 02, 2017 20:59 IST A Delhi court on Thursday directed the Google India Pvt Ltd to remove within a week certain videos and articles allegedly containing hate speeches and derogatory remarks against Sikh religion and its gurus on YouTube, Facebook and other websites. Civil Judge Jasjeet Kaur, during in-chamber proceedings, passed an ex-parte interim injunction (restraining order), noting that prima facie it appeared that Sakshi Bhardwaj, the person who allegedly uploaded videos, had made derogatory remarks against Sikh Gurus and their family members. According to advocate Gurmeet Singh who had sought an ex-parte injunction on a plea moved by one G S Wali, the court said the followers of Sikh faith were likely to feel grave insult to their religious sentiments by continued circulation of such videos of on social media. Moreover, social harmony and law and order situation was likely to get adversely affected, if Google India Pvt Ltd was not restrained from publication of the derogatory videos, the court is believed to have said. The court restrained Google India Pvt Ltd and its officials from uploading or publishing any video or article containing hate speeches and derogatory remarks against any religion, in particular against Sikh gurus and the religion. The court also directed Google India to remove all the videos featuring Bhardwaj, which were already in circulation on social media platforms within seven days. Singh told the court that hate speeches were in circulation on the social media for several days and were likely to spread communal disharmony. He also alleged that Google India had refused to remove the offensive videos of Sakshi Bhardwaj from YouTube, its subsidiary, without intervention of the court. The court also issued notice to the Google India and Delhi Police Commissioner on the plea and posted the matter for further hearing on November 22. The petitioner has also sought a direction to the Delhi police to form a a team to keep a check on the social media to prevent the uploading of any such video.

100-yr-old dies waiting for justice for 24 years Amar Kaur had deposed against ex-Punjab DGP Saini Satya Prakash Tribune News Service New Delhi, December 12 Amar Kaur, who had been waging a legal battle to get justice for her son, son-in-law and driver — not seen again after allegedly being kidnapped by former Punjab Director General of Police SS Saini almost 24 years ago —died here on Tuesday. Kaur (100) had been bed-ridden for a decade due to brain stroke. Amar Kaur had deposed against Saini in a Delhi court while being in a wheelchair supported by an ambulance almost a decade ago. She had sent a telegram from her bed in Moolchand Hospital to the Chief Justice of the Delhi High Court on July 8, 2011, requesting him to fast track the trial and hold day-to-day hearings so that she could get justice in her lifetime and her soul could rest in peace. “I have lost everything today. My mother could not get justice in her lifetime. The judicial system should not drag on a case for such a long time that people die waiting for justice. No person, howsoever powerful, should be allowed to misuse the system to unnecessarily delay a trial,” her son Ashish Kumar said, breaking down inconsolably. Her businessman son Vinod Kumar, son-in-law Ashok Kumar and driver Mukhtiyar Singh never returned home after being picked up by the police in Ludhiana and Chandigarh on March 15, 1994. A criminal case was registered against Saini and others by CBI on the orders of the Punjab and Haryana High Court in 1994. The case was transferred to Delhi by the SC in 2004 after Kaur expressed apprehension that Saini might use his might to influence witnesses.

Uncovering Extra-Judicial Killings in Punjab, and the Police Impunity That Followed By Rashme Sehgal on 16/12/2017 • A recently-released report by an advocacy group claims that over 8,000 extra-judicial executions and enforced disappearances took place in the state between 1980 and 1995. Representative image. Credit: PTI The death toll from enforced disappearances, extra-judicial killings and illegal cremations continues to grow in Punjab, according to the report ‘Identifying the Unidentified’ by the Punjab Documentation and Advocacy Project (PDAP). The organisation has, as part of a seven-year investigation, unearthed 8,257 instances of such killings between the 1980s and the mid-1990s, when Punjab was in the throes of militancy and counter insurgency. PDAP undertook this investigation in order to identify the true identities of the thousands of victims of enforced disappearances whose whereabouts remain unknown to this day. The PDAP and its team of volunteers travelled to several districts of Punjab including Gurdaspur, Batala, Pathankot, Ferozepur, Jalandhar, Nakodar, Jagraon, Mansa, Kapurthala, Sultanpur Lodhi, Hoshiarpur, Dasuya, Faridkot, Ludhiana, Moga, Nangal, Anandpur Sahib, Zira, Muktsar, Barnala, Sangrur and Phagwara. By obtaining records from all the municipal committees of these districts, they were able to identify hundreds of victims who were cremated as unclaimed and were unidentified by the Punjab police. Satnam Singh Bains, a human rights advocate for the PDAP, pointed out: “Our investigation revealed that 5,648 mass cremations of unclaimed and unidentified persons took place in Punjab between 1984 and 1995. The highest concentration of killings and illegal cremations took place between 1990 and 1993. The identities of another 2,609 victims have been ascertained, thereby bringing the total to 8,257.” Most of these bodies were disposed of in an illegal manner. Investigation process By visiting numerous cremation grounds in Punjab, this team of human rights lawyers and activists was able to gather 800 pages of records from across the 22 districts of the state. These details were then cross-checked against FIRs. Further cross-referencing was undertaken with victim and family testimonies, and also corroborated with news reports in the then vernacular and other dailies. Explaining the methodology used, Bains said, “We have used 87,000 archived reports of different newspapers for the period between 1984 and 1995. These included Ajit, Jagbani, Punjab Tribune, English Tribune and other Punjabi and Sikh periodicals to help facilitate this identification process.” An examination of 6,004 encounter killings has revealed that 95% of these were extra-judicial killings. The largest number of killings in a single encounter has been 17. Response of NHRC The families of victims have filed 2,500 petitions before the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) between 1997 and 2012. The organisation, however, chose to restrict its enquiry to the 2,097 cremations in the three crematoria in Amritsar and refused to investigate any killings that took place outside the district. This refusal resulted in the derailment of proceedings by 21 years. The PDAP is now planning to submit their findings before the Supreme Court so that justice can be meted out victims’ families. The advocacy group started its investigation from the Gurdaspur district in the Majha belt, which they believed witnessed a large number of extra-judicial killings. One such hotspot was the Beeko Interrogation Centre located in the Batala district of Gurdaspur – which was earlier a factory. Hundreds are believed to have been tortured here. These bodies, the report claims, were cremated with utmost secrecy in the municipal cremation ground, the records of which have helped provide some estimation about the number of people who died there. The procedure at the cremation grounds was as follows. When a body would be brought for cremation, a summary of the cremation expenditure, comprising firewood and cloth, would be prepared and submitted before the municipal committee, which would then approve the cost and put it down in the register. The PDAP investigation unearthed that 469 unclaimed and unidentified cremations were conducted in the Batala cremation grounds. In Amritsar, 538 cremations were conducted in the Patti cremation ground. In all, the team was able to uncover 612 unclaimed and unidentified cremations in Gurdaspur’s three crematoria between 1984-1990 and 1994-1995. Data for the four years in between was missing. In all, 800 pages of records from different districts have been collected. This investigation has faced its own set of problems. To start with, Bains said, “Since there were no dead bodies to exhume, no bones, no DNA profiling could be done. We had to fall back on witness evidence and corroborate these with official records. We decided to divide our findings in three categories. The first category comprised exact identification when the dates of the death coincided with the dates of the accounts given. The second was of highly likely matches where the cremations can be matched with the witness evidence in a short window of two days and there is the third category of possible matches where the evidence remains evidential.” Police officials speak out PDAP has also managed to talk to people who were witness to these extra-judicial killings. Punjab police constable Satwant Singh Manak is one of the few cops who spoke on how he witnessed 15 of them. The turning point, Manak told this reporter, was when he witnessed the killing of a young teenager by the name of Kulwant Singh Kanta. Manak said, “He must have been around 16-18 years of age. He was at his bua’s (aunt’s) house when the cops came knocking. The cops were looking for a militant by that name. The boy was picked up though the cops knew he was innocent. He was tortured and killed and his body was disposed by throwing it in the canal.” “This boy’s killing disturbed me so much that I left the police force and filed a legal petition against the officers responsible for his death. The families of ten other boys whose death I had witnessed have joined me in this petition which is presently pending before the Supreme Court,” he added. He admits to having received offers of inducements but he has refused to withdraw his charges, stating, “Money is not everything. When I said I would expose false encounters witnessed during my service, I was implicated in false cases and my family members including my father were tortured. It is not about money now. I need justice for myself and my family and for those innocents who became prey to overambitious cops who just wanted promotions at any cost.” Bains points out that Manak is not the only police office to have spoken out. In 2015, Kanwar Sandhu did a lengthy interview with Gurmeet Singh Pinky, an officer of the Punjab police who admitted on the record to having witnessed over 50 fake encounters. The report highlights how other eyewitnesses have also corroborated that police officials use third-degree torture during interrogations. Problems faced during investigation PDAP activists admit to limitations in their collection of evidence. For example, not every “unclaimed and unidentified body” resulted in an application for firewood and cloth. If the cremation attendants or the police did not apply for firewood and cloth, the bodies would be cremated as unclaimed and unidentified and there would be no entry in the firewood stock register, as was the case in the Khalra mass cremations. Also, this data was dependent on the municipal committee’s own records. If no expenditure took place, there would be no records – but that did not mean a cremation did not take place. The report refers to evidence provided by villagers which has not been accepted by the NHRC. It cites the example of how a police operation in the village of Behla in Amritsar on June 9, 1992, to track down a militant named Surjit Singh and two of his associates, led police officials to raid the house of an ex-MLA where these militants were suspected to be hiding. In this operation, the cops used seven to eight villagers as human shields. One of the villagers was Kartar Singh, whose son Virsa Singh is now fighting for justice for his father. This encounter in Behla village lasted 34 hours as the militants were hiding in a bunker and were heavily armed. It resulted in the killing of all three militants and six villagers who were used as human shields. The cops tried to cover up the killings of the villagers by portraying them as being “militants killed in a genuine encounter”. Virsa, before the Independent People’s Tribunal (IPT) held on April 1-2, 2017, talked about how his father Karta along with other villagers was forced to act as a shield while the cops tried to eliminate the militants. The dead bodies of the villagers were cremated at Tarn Taran. He also revealed that he tried to secure his father’s dead body to perform his final rites but the hospital refused to give it. Virsa pointed out that no mention of the cremations of the nine people killed on June 9, 1992 has been made into the CBI list of unidentified cremations, even though the SHO Gurbachan Singh had listed their names in the FIR that was filed in his thana. Patricia Grossman, a senior researcher with Human Rights Watch, has in her book India’s Secret Armies written about a police officer who estimated that at the height of Operation Rakshak, “500 people were killed by the police from his police station alone.” The trigger for the PDAP investigation has been the abduction and killing of human rights activist and lawyer Jaswant Singh Khalra, who had joined the Human Rights Wing of the Akali Dal in the 1990s. In 1994, Khalra was investigating the disappearance of a friend whose body, he discovered, the police had secretly cremated at the Durgiana Mandir cremation ground in Amritsar district. Khalra had launched an investigation on these secret cremations and used these government records to release a report on the disappearances. The police attempted to discredit him by claiming he had links with militants, but Khalra was willing to take the authorities head on. On September 6, 1995, he was picked up by the cops in the presence of Rajiv Singh, a journalist from the Ajit groups of papers. Jaswant’s wife Paramjit Kaur, when trying to track down her husband, learnt that he had “mysteriously disappeared”. She subsequently filed a habeas petition in the Supreme Court but her husband could not be tracked down. While Paramjit received compensation of Rs 10 lakh for the disappearance of her husband, the NHRC gave a compensation payment of Rs 1.75 lakh to 1,245 individuals who were the next of kin of those wrongfully cremated. By refusing to investigate cremations that took place outside Amritsar, to hear any evidence from survivor families or witnesses, and to accept challenges to the police version of events based on victim testimony, the NHRC has in effect shielded the perpetrators, pointed out human rights lawyer Colin Gonsalves, who represented the survivors families before the NHRC . Justice A.K. Ganguly (retd), a Supreme Court judge speaking at the IPT panel, expressed shock and dismay that the NHRC had limited its investigation to the three crematoria in Amritsar, Tarn Taran and Majitha, and left the rest of Punjab completely untouched. “As a human rights activist, I feel that any case of cremation of human bodies and then describing them as unidentified, is itself a gross violation of human rights…this is a total denial of the rights of the people of Punjab.” Nor did the NHRC hold any officials accountable for repeated violations of the law, thereby creating a sense of impunity amongst people who have broken the law. This led tribal activist Soni Sori to emphasise at the IPT that if the Punjab police had been taken to task for their excesses, then the systematic violations of the rights of life and liberty in the states of Chhattisgarh, Kashmir and Manipur would not have occurred. The PDAP are hoping that the highest court in the land will help provide a sense of reconciliation and reparation to thousands of affected families. This should also help remove the stigma attached to victims of ‘terrorists’, as they fall outside the scope of rehabilitation extended to other civilians. They are also demanding the setting up of an Independent Special Prosecution Office that can investigate and prosecute these mass state crimes. Rashme Sehgal is a freelance journalist based in Delhi.

Brits would have lost to Sikhs, ‘but for treachery by 2 Gens’ William Dalrymple (right) speaks as (L-R) Amar Pal Sidhu, Mandeep Rai and Dr Sukhmani Riar look on at the Military Literature Festival in Chandigarh on Saturday. TRIBUNE PHOTO: RAVI KUMAR Ajay Banerjee Tribune News Service Chandigarh, December 9 Adept in Indo-British history, two leading historians today differed on what could have been the British Empire’s future after the First Anglo-Sikh War in 1846, but both agreed that the East India Company-led army had almost lost the war had the Sikhs — surprisingly or prompted by the treachery of two Generals — not surrendered. Speaking on ‘Anglo-Sikh wars’ at the Military Literature Festival here, London-based historian Amar Pal Sidhu argued: “The British lacked ammunition, had no water and were, thus, incapable of fighting. Then Governor General Lord Henry Hardinge was in the battlefield and he would have had to surrender. The entire British Raj could have collapsed.” Sidhu, who has authored separate books on the first and the Second Anglo-Sikh War (1848-49), said: “Had the Sikh army not surrendered, the British Empire’s history in India would have been different. It would have been a seminal moment resembling the one at Waterloo (where Napoleon Bonaparte of France lost).” The treachery by Generals Tej Singh and Lal Singh changed the course of history. The two owed their positions to Maharani Jindan, one of the queens of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. “Punjab probably would have been united and would still be united,” said Sidhu. William Dalrymple, author of “Return of a King: The Battle for Afghanistan”, accepted that the military edge in the First Anglo-Sikh War was with the Sikhs. He, however, differed on the outcome of the British Empire had they (Sikhs) won the first war. “At that point, it was easy to defeat the Company-led army, though they could have used their backup of vast resources and men,” he averred. They had resources much bigger than Punjab’s. Between 1790 and the early 1800s, the company was earning hugely from Bengal. The private army of the East India Company was twice the size of the British army. Mandeep Rai, who was moderating the session, said: “Historians have not realised that had the Sikh army not surrendered, the Lahore durbar would have survived and the state of Pakistan would not have come into being.” Dr Sukhmani Riar, Professor of history at PU, asserted that “the creation of the Dogra state (now J&K) after the First Anglo-Sikh War was still a mystery. How the Sikh kingdom collapsed within a few years of the death of Ranjit Singh (in 1839) is a matter of study”. The First Anglo-Sikh War led to signing of the ‘Treaty of Umritsar’ (Amritsar) and carving out a separate Dogra kingdom. It meant partial subjugation. Three years later, the Second Anglo-Sikh War led to total defeat of the Sikh army and the subsequent collapse of the Sikh kingdom.

NEW DELHI – The 1984 massacre of Sikhs following the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi that claimed the lives of an estimated 8,000 people in Delhi and around the country were not spontaneous as has been made out but were Gandhi government-orchestrated, says a scathing new book on the four days of mayhem, adding it’s time the world took note of the killings, as it did of the slaughter of a similar number of Bosnian Muslims in 1994. The book titled “1984 — India’s Guilty Secret”, written by Pav Singh, was released recently. “At the time, the authorities projected the violence as a spontaneous reaction to the tragic loss of a much-loved Prime Minister. But evidence points to a government-orchestrated genocidal massacre unleashed by politicians — with the trail leading up to the very heart of the dynastic Gandhi family — and covered up with the help of the police, judiciary and sections of the media,” the author claims. “It is believed that key players in the then Congress government used the increasingly volatile situation in Punjab to blur the perception of the Sikh community in the eyes of their fellow citizens,” writes Pav Singh, a member of the Magazines and Books Industrial Council of Britain’s National Union of Journalists. The Delhi HC on Tuesday reserved its order on a plea by the SIT probing anti-Sikh riots cases, seeking to cancel the anticipatory bail granted to Congress leader Sajjan Kumar. Justice Anu Malhotra heard the arguments of the counsels for the SIT, Kumar and riot victims, and said it would pass an order. Additional Solicitor General Sanjay Jain, appearing for the SIT, argued the trial court’s order of granting anticipatory bail to the leader was ‘perverse’. PTI

I am not against their outreach programmes that help people and educate the panth away from drugs, alchol, muslims,etc. I think thats great and more power to them for that. Perhaps I should have been more specific in my post, what I am against is what I see on their social media pages. They are putting across a very negative image of British Sikhs and no positive messages of Sikhi or our to get back into Sikhi on their pages and to add to the negativity they are aiding the white racists within the mainstream media by pushing the anti-asian male narrative articles. You cant see it the sly way that asians and more so asian males are being attacked in news articles and broadcastros due to the crimes of british muslims mostly by pakistanis. But other Sikhs can see it and have read how uncomfortable they feel when they see the world "asian grooming gangs" splashed all over the media because already they are associated by skin colour /ethnicity/race due the the crimes of a few islamic terrorists/extremists who mostly happen to be of brown skin. It don't take a genius to work out that your average non-asian mostly gorah has a negative perception of brown skinned males because of the mainstream media attacks on their racial identity and for our Sikh groups to go around sharing articles that DO NOT highlight the real culprits as muslim gangs but rather they attack "asian grooming gangs" thats a racial attack on your skin colour on your race. It implies there's some racial problem to the way these pedo scumbags are abuse white girls and other non-muslim girls. Instead of being defensive of m0ronic tactics you should be seeing the wider implications of what demonisation of the asian racial identity politics that's is going on in the mainstream media but i guess I'm asking for too much for you to understand this.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/nia-takes-over-six-cases-with-khalistan-link/512930.html If you read the article above you can see tecently there have been few high profile killings of controversial figures in punjab. The Indian establishment member and freemason atheist secular punjabi dog captain amrinder singh blames Khalistani's for it. Yet all evidence points towards either RSS/Hindtva groups or Indian govt agents trying to defame the Khalistani's due to the 2020 Khalistan campaign. On the eve of the punjab elections where congress party defeated the corrupt dog badal and his anti-panthic akali party the congress party members did a small car bomb attack on some random place in punjab and blamed Khalistani's for it. No group claimed responsibility but suspicions in the panth are that Indian agents linked to congress party carried it out just as they had did similar antics in 1980s to attack the Sikh panth. The corrupt inhumane terrorist Indian establishment can't reach the Sikhs in the west from speaking out against the crimes it has committed against their community in India. They cant stop the freedom of expression and freedom of speech to fight for an independent nation state of Khalistan. They cant silence the right of self determination so they are trying to falsify evidence, trying to implicate Sikhs from aboard in killings that they themselves have carried out in false flag operations so that they can try to scare or dis-wade those who are against Indian terrorism and anti-sikh crimes that they are not unreachable and Indian govt terrorist agents can try to implicate them in order to silence them. So as we have seen Juggi the british born operator of the neverforget84 website was recently outrageously kidnapped by state agents and put in jail pending a trial. It has been the wish of the modi/indian govt to slience Sikhs aboard because they are a nuisance, causing a fuss about mass murder and vicitimisation of their minority community at the hands of the powerful. They know its embarrassing for them everytime they visit that Sikhs 4 justice protest against them and highlight their murderous regime and state terrorism against our community and other minorities.

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wow thats bad if thats true, have you got evidence of that happening? SGPC has been a total disaster for the Sikh panth. First they created the rehit that alienated Sikhs into various groups and pushed many into the camp of hindu punjabis then they actively sort to work with the Indian govt to attack harmandir sahib. Then they worked under badal to control the masses under their family influence and now they are not doing anything to stop the madness of worshipping white man jesus Christianity spreading but actively allegedly helping them. Who needs enemies when we have demonic snakes like people of the SGPC in charge of the panthic affairs. I wouldn't be suprised if the SGPC has been funded by freemasons (zionists) and the british establishment to finish of Sikhi from its roots in punjab under a 100year plan. Christians in the west by large are nice people I would rather have them for friends and neighbours than muslims as they arent in your face too much. However the Christians in India are something else they are evangelical they actively go out to defame and undermine other faiths and say others are from satan and if you belong to those faiths your a devil worshipper and wont be saved in the afterlife. So they destory and make punjabi familes fight amounst each other. What needs to be done is an active campaign to undermine Christianity in punjab and punjabi families expose its horrific assaults in punjab and the backward teachings so that people see Christianity for what it is.

Its strange how their members curiously were and possibly are members of the indian congress youth party. And how they are always having a go at the hindu nationalist BJP party rather than terrorist indian congress party.

I'm not talking about that I'm talking about some of our so called Sikh groups helping spread racist mainstream media anti-asian male propaganda.

When you look at how irreligious shiv sena party members are and how many of their members were/are still covertly members of indian congress party. Was shiv sena formed as a counter to the hindu nationalist BJP party? As a way to divert votes and attention to help congress party over the years in their agenda of ruling through deceptive tactics.

Since 1960s when British Asians first came to the UK in large numbers they have had to struggle to make life for themselves from scratch in a not so welcoming alien land. And we have seen 2001 and especially since 2012 there has been open season especially in the right wing racist jewish zionist bankster funded white mainstream media outlets demonising against British Asian males when they talk about issues around muslim grooming pedo gangs. Rather than call a spade a space the white racist mainstream media targeted the asian race and skin colour of these pedo' gangs. Rather than call out Islam and muslim culture for creating an environment where these pakistani, middle eastern arab and Somalian scumbags felt its ok to use and abuse non-muslim girls for their own gains the politically incorrect white racist mainstream media called out the asian race in an open racist attack on the asian male identity on your race which you can do nothing about. And when you look at Sikh youth birmingham's pages on facebook and instagram theres hardly no parchar about Sikhi or positive messages for lost sheep to return to sikhi but its full of muslim pedo articles and stupidly they also share racist white articles written by sly white racist journalists mainstream media which attacks asian males openly. If anywhere in the world the race label of the gangs was used it would be obviously be deemed a racist article yet our m0ronic british asians are not calling dailymail or sky news amoung others out they are letting them get away with racist propaganda against asian males when the real culprits the muslim males who should have been targeted and called out. Its strange that the alternative far right media created by white nationalists themselves do know that its muslims and islamic culture to blame yet the establishment the zionist jewish funded white mainstream media choses to demonise, discriminate against the british asian race and in particular british asian males. It seems people behnd Sikh youth birmingham are not clever enough to realise that they are unwittingly in my view helping spread racist white hate propaganda against their own community cos the average white subconsciously is not going to see the religion of the person when they look at a brown/asian male they are going to link the skin colour the asian features to these grooming pedo gangs and terrorism.

Whats the latest news on the free jaggi campaign? Btw has any of his family or friends approached channel 4 new journalists/presenters? Usually they cover these kinda of human rights stories especially if it concerns british citizens and make a huge deal about it in the mainstream media.

I read a news article recently that predicts that the muslim population of the UK will tripple by 2050 so at the moment they are about 2-3 million so by 2050 it will be 9 million which is 12% of the population. And as we know by demographics trends of islam once islamic population reaches about 10% then lives and rights of non-muslim host communities start to get trampled on. Already they are not even 5% and they are posing threats to our own different unique ethnic and religious communities. So what can be the possible solutions by those moronic appeasing politicians in european governments apart from drastic solution of banning islam or civil war with muslims which will probably come again like the balkans war of 90s but far worse. Strangely and coincidentally also it seems the A.I singularity is also due in the 2050's meaning A.I robotic machines will surpass human intelligence and most jobs will fall to robots and so the surplus human population stock will not be required for work and thus will be a burden for governments to sustain. This maybe a bit far fetched but plausible theory ....but Is the islamic demographic time bomb the convenient solution ...the convenient fall guy....which will be used to blame for social unrest in society while the elites in their protected and insulated ivory towers enjoy the high life away from the deadly violence and chaos that they know was coming because they planned the chess pieces in place for such a scenario to happen.

Guru's Sikhs weren't Lilly liberal idiots that most Sikhs are today. The Guru's Sikhs of the past knew other religions were false and only Sikhi was worthy of being followed. Yes some of the religious scriptures in books of other religions are not false because they provide historical and religious context of how beliefs evolved but other religions are false because as gurbani said without the guru your soul will not be saved in this world......So we need to ask what has changed? What has changed is what is being taught in our households, online (social media / websites) and religious institutions....from my assessment it seems there's no passion, there is no conviction, no inspiring speeches in English, no fight left in them..... the granthi's and the preachers are too softly spoken like hippys not enough assertive no nonsense and passionate preaching.

Not push but provide assertive guidance. Sikhi is unique from other religions, if you read SGGS Ji you will see Guru Ji rejects the islamic and hindu rituals.... and speaks out against those inhumane rituals and practices and other social ill's of humanity. Is that religious tolerance? Some may say in today's snowflake westernised societies that is not tolerant and that is outspoken teachings and offending speech that may rock the boat.

Great responses, I worry a little that the new generation in our kaum are not prepared for the ideological competing tsumani's that faces their minds once they have access to the internet and are old enough to decide what to believe in. There was a time where people in our kaum were insulated and isolated from the various religious groups trying to convert them to their religion so they didnt have to worry about their identity or belief system. But now its all in their face if not at school, college or uni then at workplace or on social media and the internet in general. If its not abrahmics trying to groom and convert them then its the sly atheist's trying to put all the blame of crimes of few religioius nutjobs (usually Muslim) on all religions or on God. We do have basics of Sikhi and others who have tried to help combat this propaganda from other ideologies and to stay strong in Sikhi however it I feel is not enough we should not and can not reply on one group on the internet to hold the fort for the Sikh camp. We need ourselves to be the forts to keep Sikhs strong in their faith and to spread it so others may convert also. I say this because low self esteem young people of various backgrounds are searching for what they believe in and are being groomed to different paths by various very slick and sly propaganda campaigns for the soul reason of converting people to their faiths mostly done by christian and islamic groups. In my view Sikhi holds the answers to all the questions that life's great mysteries and questions holds, it is a perfect system and belief system. Yet the knowledge is not shared or weaponised for maximum effect to help sikh minds who may have been groomed to other belief systems. So for example I came across alot of lilly liberal Sikhs who say all religions teach the same thing. So I ask them so if they all teach the same thing converting to anther religion is not a problem right? Then some of them argue and some say yes no problem at all. Then I ask them ok if all religions are the same then why the need for creation of Sikhi? Why the sacrifices of so many heroic Sikhs and our beloved Guru's if all religions are the same and it didnt matter if they converted? They usually dont have an answer then..... and thats where their lack of knowledge of Sikhi has actually for all those years made them think Sikhi was ok with you converting to other faiths... or marrying someone of a different faith was ok.... or worshipping idols/photo's is ok .... or sikhs not allowed to eat meat...or believing our Guru's were God's. It is such misconceptions of Sikhi and ignorance that made them potential easy targets for grooming by other religions for conversion. The people in our kaum in generations past thought converting to another faith was akin to suicide, or so taboo it was unheard of to even think it. But nowadays people are free and open minded thinking everything is possible its all allowed.... because they have not been taught to obey the guru because the guru is the one that will save your soul in the after life. Not the middle eastern white man jesus who died on the cross and couldnt save himself or his followers at the time from being killed by the romans, not profit muhammad who committed countless crimes against women and non-believers that he couldnt save himself from being poisoned by bibi ayesha and wont be able to save himself on judgement day let alot anyone else through intercession and not the man made hindu idols who cant even save themselves from breaking how they gonna help you in your life troubles, not the buddha cos to his theory there was no God not atheism because according to their idiotic ideology and leading figures nothing can come out of nothing so nothing created the big bang and the universe. So Sikhi is the perfect belief system but it needs to be interpreted and message conveyed properly so that our youth are not ignorant and are strong and confident in their belief whenever a non-believer tries to groom them away from the Guru.

Its strange to me that not many Sikhs migrated to Ireland during the Indian independence struggle or during the Sikh independence struggles of 80s to present times. The UK racist ruling establishment being an enemy to both Sikh and Irish reunification independence interests then naturally Ireland should have been a great place to launch the movement independence movements against foreign rule yet Sikhs chose to do so in the same country (united kingdom) the occupying power and opposer of self-determination instead. Pro-EU Sikhs should definitely look at moving on mass to Ireland it will also strengthen our community's hand in our own Sikh Independence movement.